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post Aug 10 2017, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(firee818 @ Aug 3 2017, 09:10 AM)
Hi, I would like to buy Mitsubishi Electric Air Cond but noted that it has 3 types of refrigerants:-
1). R22
2). R410
3). R32

Which one should I go for in term of repairing. servicing (easy to get the spare parts), stableness(no easy to break down) and quietness(the compressor not running noisily)?
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Which is the model of R32?
So far seen on Daikin only , not too sure is it cheaper way or not.
Cause due to R410a will be shortage and price has been went up.

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post Aug 13 2017, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(cuttlefish @ Aug 13 2017, 01:15 AM)
ME R32 is MS/MU-HN
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Non-inverter model only 😅
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post Aug 4 2022, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Jul 31 2022, 04:42 PM)
Mine compressor just spoilt, 3.5 years. Waiting warranty replacement, but need to folk out huge sum of labor fee...
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Compressor hardly spoiled, as usual 6-10 years warranty
What’s the brand ?
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post Aug 4 2022, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(noobfm @ Jul 18 2022, 01:33 PM)
Hello everyone,

I was surveying for my new house wall mounted aircond installation and would like to ask your opinion/comments/feedback with below quote,

I will need 3 units of 1/1.5HP airconds for bedrooms, 3 units of 2/2.5HP airconds for master bedroom & living hall.

Panasonic Standard Inverter (PU series):
1HP-RM1400
1.5HP-RM1700
2HP-RM2800
2.5HP-RM3000

Panasonic X-Deluxe (XPU series):
1HP-RM1700
1.5HP-RM2000
2HP-RM3000
2.5HP-RM3400

Panasonic X-Premium (XU series):
1HP-RM1800
1.5HP-RM2200
2HP-RM3500
2.5HP-RM3900

Daikin Standard Inverter (FTKF series):
1HP-RM1400
1.5HP-RM1700
2HP-RM2900
2.5HP-RM3200

Midea Xterme Save Inverter (MSXS series):
1HP-RM1100
1.5HP-RM1400
2HP-RM2000
2.5HP-RM2700

installation fee for 1-1.5HP is RM200 while 2-2.5HP is RM230 per unit

Thanks.
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Go for daikin inverter lah.
Panasonic good looking , but not cooling enough
Midea cheap but easy to spoil and parts

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post Aug 4 2022, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(Keatsan @ Jul 19 2022, 10:34 PM)
Any thoughts for Mitsubishi user JS inverter series?
2 years indoor + 7 years outdoor warranty

1 HP - MSY-JS10VF - RM1.5k
1.5 HP - MSY-JS13VF - RM1.7k

Seems like these model pricing quite reasonable

Hence I'm also comparing to either get multi split or individual split. My requirements would be 2x 1HP INV and 1x 1.5HP INV.

For instance, I saw Daikin MULTI SPLIT Inverter MKC series(R32) MKC50RVM that can accomodate 2 X 1HP INV + 1 X 1.5HP INV.
RM4099.

Panasonic pricing quite a huge jump.

Any suggestions are welcomed.
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Stay in condo unit?
In MY not worth to install multi system.
One unit spoil or leak , all room cannot used.
Mitsubishi electric is the best, try to get few step can access to blower for own cleaning type.
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post Aug 4 2022, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(noobfm @ Aug 4 2022, 04:07 PM)
yes sir. I am thinking of ordering Daikin inverter aircond. blush.gif
Surfing through the threads, i think Daikin/Panasonic would be recommended by many  brows.gif
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Not too sure Panasonic R32 inverter will be cooling enough or not.
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QUOTE(Keatsan @ Aug 4 2022, 09:03 PM)
Ah okay. The model listed is probably the ideal ones.
Mitsubishi Electric models are better than Mitsubishi Industry series
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SG very common for Mitsubishi electric multi units
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post Aug 4 2022, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Aug 4 2022, 10:29 PM)
I hate to admit this, but from experience it is true. Panasonic skew towards power savings so it is never as cold as Daikin, even when I set the setting to max on remote..its still hesitant to cool. Like, I set max fan, 17C the air con is like "you sure you want so cold meh? eh it use a lot electricity, come I slow down a bit save some energy". I am like.. eh hello, I want max cooling you give me max cooling la.

Limpeh using 2HP inverter Pana in bedroom. Based on measurement of room size & height actually 1.5HP enough. Now 2HP inverter Pana, just ngam ngam only.

Midea cheap and easy to spoil and parts? In 2015 I got MSN-09CRDN1 inverter models, 3 units used heavily because all in bedroom, until today no issues.. except workmanship not good the thing leak gas for 1 unit. Not the a/c's fault.

But best bang for the buck, HISENSE. If you want the most basic non-inverter aircon, limpeh will recommend Hisense over any Pana and any Daikin. The Japanese very expensive.

EDIT: Limpeh got Daikin, York (old cooling king good, current China mari Johnson control is rubbish), Hisense, Midea, Mitsu Electric, Pana -- love hate relationship with Pana.
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Basically choosing the bigger outdoor size condenser, inside have double layers of cooling coils, large amount of coils better heats exchange, indoor can feel much better cooling down the room.
So after many years already, I am unsure the new R32 still have an issue or not.
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QUOTE(SIEWBAO @ Aug 9 2022, 10:50 AM)
Is daikin really worth the price? nowdays saw alot brand giving better spec n function with lower price. Like Haier, Hisense...
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Or u wanna try Mitsubishi electric?
Mr slim in MY and SG call Starmex is worth for money
Much much cooler , quiet and coils very durable, easy clean to access fan blower.
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QUOTE(borgyang @ Oct 26 2023, 09:00 PM)
Hi guys, I just collected the key from my new condo today. FYI, I'm renting the unit to the tenant, not for self-use. I'm looking to buy 3 x Standard Non-Inverter R32 Air Conditioner for my unit.

Living Room - 2.0 HP
Master Bedroom - 1.0 HP
Bedroom 1 - 1.0 HP

I need some recommendations to get a cheap and reliable air conditioner. My main concern is the price and quality. Do you guys usually get them from big retail chain stores like Senheng and Harvey Norman? Or you guys got lobang can get a lower price online from Shopee/Lazada or from a smaller contractor company?

By the way, how are those China's brands (Haier, Midea, Hisense, Gree, CHiQ etc.) doing in the market now? Any bad reviews from the users? Thanks in advance!
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Hmmm nowadays still selling non-inverter aircon?
It’s too cold and temperature very unstable with high power consumption all the time.
If you’re prefer comfortable cooling, go for inverter you never regret

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QUOTE(borgyang @ Nov 10 2023, 09:21 AM)
I guess you didn’t read this sentence from my previous post.

FYI, I'm renting the unit to the tenant, not for self-use.

The average cost difference between an inverter and a non-inverter aircon is about RM500. Why would I pay more to get an inverter aircon for my tenant? Furthermore, the cost of repair (spare parts) is higher as compared to a non-inverter aircon. Correct me if I’m wrong.

Personally, I have been using Panasonic, Daikin and Mitsubishi inverter aircon at my home for more than 10 years. They are very reliable and seldom give me problems, but the price is on the high side for these well-known brands.

I’m looking at the China aircon brands since they are cheaper, but I wouldn't know if they are reliable as I have never used them before, so I need some feedback from existing users.

I'm open to any brands or models that are cheap and reliable. You may also PM me if you know of any shops or contractors who are selling aircon in the KL area. Thanks!
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Why don’t think about electricity saving?
No matter you rent out or own used

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QUOTE(borgyang @ Nov 10 2023, 01:10 PM)
It is because the electricity bill paid by the tenant.
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Believe me, go for inverter units.
Either you lets the tenant install by them.

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QUOTE(jhleo1 @ Nov 10 2023, 03:17 PM)
Well if landlord no need to pay single cent then ok lah.... Tenant won't care much of it.
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Hahah up to you.
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QUOTE(lankorn @ Nov 11 2023, 12:56 PM)
I have 2 AC from diff brand at home.What is the best way to drain the OU condensation dripping?

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Buy drain tray to avoid water droppings
https://s.lazada.sg/s.Yc0Q0
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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Nov 11 2023, 09:24 AM)
For long run inverter is better?
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Yeah, cheaper electricity and comfortable all night long, also very quiet, set on 26c good than enough
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QUOTE(muyo @ Nov 12 2023, 04:32 PM)
Among all the China brands midea is the most reliable and important thing is the parts can easily get at malaysia. After sales service is very good too. Just find pro guy to install it will be no problems.
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Yeah, talk about cost saving any inverter aircon are good and reliable for now.

I am unsure about York daikin for now, my mother in law house still using York inverter an more than 12 years right now.

If wanna get a good brand, go for Mitsubishi electric inverter aircon.
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QUOTE(lankorn @ Nov 14 2023, 10:37 PM)
We have good reviews on Mitsu,Daikin and Midea here.....which one to go  laugh.gif
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Mitsubishi electric easy for maintenance's.
Daikin a bit difficult to access on fan blower for cleaning, Sg model. I’m unsure about York daikin models in MY.
https://s.lazada.sg/s.YcGSI
Midea unsure, never used before.
Panasonic not cooling enough.
Hitachi 1hp inverter same as Panasonic 1hp less cooling.
LG worst on cleaning, the fan blade left right can break off when during cleaning.
Samsung very rare.
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QUOTE(thinkgoodpositive @ Nov 16 2023, 08:23 AM)
How about Acson Inverter (REINO series) and non-Inverter model?
Old house using Acson for 10 years, no problem and very cool. Not sure the model now. Looking for new house usage.
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Acson and York same model that time, my kampung house York inverter more than 12 years from installed till now without top up gas, just normal clean only

Anyway if you wanna feel more comfortable, try to avoid non inverter aircon.

Even tho PRC inverter aircon still better than some branded non inverter selling in Malaysia.

Inverter aircon no issue on raining days, it’s won’t feel that keep turning on and off like a non-inverter aircon.

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Nov 27 2023, 11:37 AM)
You don't need long hours to make a difference. Depending on your set temperature, it could be a huge difference.

You can have a look at my LG premium inverter 1hp power usage

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I had my temp set to 26c. The first 2 hours is the most taxing. After that, inverter kicked in and using almost the same energy for 6hours vs 2hours.

But if you buy a non inverter, it will continuously draw say 0.6kw/hr with some cut off in between then compressor restart again at 0.6kw/h.

Of course that depends a lot on your set temp. If you're going for 22c or lower, inverter probably not going to save you much.
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I can’t stand for 22c during night time, my Mitsubishi electric starmex inverter, more than 8 years from now, still set in 26c

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QUOTE(oo11 @ Nov 26 2023, 05:32 PM)
Hi, planning to install new aircond for apartment unit. However the wiring already make it to only install non-inverter (3 wires instead of 4). Is it still possible to make changes by adding wire to install inverter unit?
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Can check about model brand and specs, don’t think need 4 cores wires for inverter, if come with 4 cores wires should be greater.
If can please try R32 non inverter to save trouble on future, if it’s concealed on wall, the cooper pipes still can reuse in any inverter future upgrade

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