QUOTE(rylim @ Jun 17 2020, 01:18 AM)
Hitachi made good reliable AC but for the price better go for Sharp a bit cheaper and selling very well. Aircon Discussion V3, Home Appliance
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Jun 17 2020, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(swgiant @ Jun 17 2020, 12:46 PM) 4yrs old panasonic 1.5hp inverter used to be cold at 23 - 24c. Initially, weak airflow, start dripping, not cold then called for servicing before Raya. Technician said r410a refrigerant drop 1 bar but still enough so no topup is required. Now airflow is strong but why run more than 2hours at 16c still cant feel the cold, due to refrigerant ? if you can not feel the cold airflow ( place hand 6 inch near ) then possible your compressor has shut down .use your remote to get the error fault code ...will tell you why . This post has been edited by Momo33: Jun 17 2020, 12:38 PM |
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Jun 17 2020, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(MelissaWong78 @ Jun 17 2020, 12:32 PM) Mitsubishi or LG aircon? Someone help i recommend go for panasonic or daikin ..better choice,I have read up a lot about Mitsubishi aircon reviewand lg aircon review but I still can't decide mits spare parts expensive. Aircond failure rates depends how you use it. if your normal is low temp setting like 20 deg ..better buy a non invertor .or buy oversize invertor . if you set the temp where you have much turn on /off of compressor , your caps may fail. This post has been edited by Momo33: Jun 17 2020, 03:50 PM |
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Jun 17 2020, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(hafizhans @ Jun 17 2020, 09:31 AM) planning on getting 1.5hp inverter air cond. both are good AC s . depends on your like and budget .now looking at these 2 model: 1. haier hsu-12vnr18r () - RM1699 w installation 2. daikin (ftkf35av1m) - Rm1879 w installation from the spec the only different I can conclude: 1. 10+3 warranty, bit higher cfm, cheaper 2. 5+2 (promo) warranty, reliable brand, econo mode any thoughts on these two? or if there other better model do suggest. TQ I will go for the haier . i think you can get better prices as check in lazada. |
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Jun 17 2020, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(swgiant @ Jun 17 2020, 03:50 PM) Airflow is strong now and compressor is running at full load amp. Just wondering could it be low refrigerant, even short of 1 bar. then use your remote to get any error codes from the AC .it will tell you if any have fail. even low gas did your service include wash of outdoor fins . This post has been edited by Momo33: Jun 17 2020, 03:38 PM |
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Jun 17 2020, 04:17 PM
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yaa.... when install AC make sure can acess for service |
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Jun 17 2020, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(swgiant @ Jun 17 2020, 05:31 PM) can i retrieve the error code even though it is still operating normally. yes .... the codes are in the control memory . and only can retrieve while AC is working.No, last time technician didnt wash the outdoor fins as still clean according to him. use the remote to get the codes . remember the code. next reset the stored error code from the system . BY power off the AC mains. the mains power switch to the AC ( not on the remote. turn on the power and operate as usual. later use the remote to check what codes becomes active . next morning ...check the codes again .... check if any more codes become active. check the error codes in your service manual for the REASON of the error. and how/what to troubleshoot . if you can check if the outdoor fins are clog with dust or not. plse do it. dust here will overheat your compressor . This post has been edited by Momo33: Jun 17 2020, 05:09 PM |
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Jun 18 2020, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(4lt4ir @ Jun 18 2020, 12:18 AM) Hmm, sorry but I'm confused. If we set the temp to low setting like 18-20C, the compressor will run all the time, which leads to high electricity bill and also compressor failure (maybe?). assuming with a correct dimension AC hp setting from 23 to 26 deg should be fine . for normal operation and power saving. But if we set to 23-24C, the compressor will turn on and off depending on the room temperature achieved. This is the 'normal' way that an a/c should run and will give some electricity bill saving, right? But, this will lead to capacitor failure? When temperature is set to 25 degree as compared to 20deg you can expect about 20 to 30% power save . regarding cap failure . the on/off of the compressor usually cause higher surge currents of about 3X. this is normal and cap s are design to take this. cap s in AC are highly stress . there was issues once with Mitsu.. AC having poor cap s have higher failure rates. Also be aware on how your AC is working regarding on/off cycle times . 2 to 3 times an hour is the normal. AC with a temp sensor located in the Remote unit have better control of temperature regulation . check gree , midea AC s . for this feature . This post has been edited by Momo33: Jun 18 2020, 02:19 PM |
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Jun 19 2020, 03:10 PM
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Jun 20 2020, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(thor74 @ Jun 19 2020, 11:43 PM) If you use inverter, the compressor speed will go down to maintain the room temprature. The lower the compressor speed the lower the power consumption (less than 1 amp). regarding ROI . If you use non inverter, the compressor is turned ON and OFF which compressor capacitor will work hard to kickstart the compressor, doing so will pull your electricity higher. Many people are mistaken with the assumption that inverter saves energy if you operate more than 8 hours. It starts saving from the moment you turn ON your aircond provided you have sized the unit correctly. It is your choice anyway. ROI is quick with the inverter. I know because I have 6 Panasonic inverter. i take a simple calculation on power cost 1hp non -inv AC runs 300 hrs/m @ 22sen = 15 RM a month .power cost with invertor have 30 % power save , so 10 RM a month . SAvings is 5 RM per month . invertor AC cost 250 rm more. so need about 2 years to get back your investment . Also consider invertor Maintenance cost is x3 higher . and higher if you get a faulty control pcb . i heard pana invertor pcb cost about 650 rm . Any one can confirm this ? the arguments between choice of invertor vs non will go on . i will go invertor if monthly usage is high like more than 8 hours daily use . This post has been edited by Momo33: Jun 20 2020, 11:14 AM |
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Jun 20 2020, 11:16 AM
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Jun 20 2020, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(thor74 @ Jun 19 2020, 11:22 PM) When purchasing inverter, you must undertand there will be 2 control boards, one at the indoor and another at the outdoor. Once any of it is broken the cost to repair can be very high and the spare part may be not available. China brand AC like haier, midea and others have office and service center in Klang Valley .So my sincere advice is to go for the brand with the reputation. Do not choose manufacturers from China or Thailand as the spare part will be scarce. Go for the most trusted brand Panasonic as they are made in Malaysia. The spare parts are plenty. Do not buy cheaper goods which you will regret later for not having after sales supports (spare parts). i see no reason they dont have spares . if we can see more inputs from users about issues we can get the feel who have poor service. Most branded AC these days are reliable. Most AC electronic components are china made due to cost. even pana will have china electronic parts. AC reliability is highly depends on User . like regular cleaning service , correct temp setting so not overload the AC . usage like more than 10 hrs a day non stop. |
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QUOTE(ArthurHew @ Jun 19 2020, 01:02 PM) 1 of my FTV28P giving problem on Outdoor Unit. Very loud reciprocating noise. I not sure what kind of failing sound. It just 1 year 9 month old. Proper usage is around 1 year 2 month only. non invertor AC .possible causes compressor worn out fan unit problem. when compressor goes OFF do you still hear this sound ? |
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Jun 21 2020, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(thor74 @ Jun 21 2020, 09:39 AM) Having the sales/service office does not carry any weight if they do not keep sufficient spare parts for long term. i understand your concern about having sufficient service spares. its a common problem with all Maintenance Service industry.(Hint for you: volkswagen malaysia). The difference from one brand to another is very much related to their internal policy. A simple problem can give you an headache :- a rubber bushing that wont last more than 3 years will cause aircond compressor to vibrate and cause annoying sound. After 1 year warranty it is you cost. Does the manufacturer’s policy ensure the part can last 10 years? The same thing with other parts like plastic grilles. Can it last without breaking up (ie during servicing)? The same thing with the electro-mechanical. Can it withstand the time? Each manufacturer has its own standard and for that reason you won’t find commonity in parts or materials used. it cost millions RM to build up a Spare Part store . hence you do run into spares problem. So most company will only keep Critical Spares. today with excellent logistics a spare can be delivered in 1 day to most parts in malaysia. for most people i believe you can wait like a few days to secure the spare. AC spares. if you have concern then buy only AC s with high sales and reputable Co. if not be prepared to wait longer for a spare part. |
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QUOTE(chubbyqq @ Jun 21 2020, 10:28 AM) Hi all sifu, Looking at your list ... i will go for pana or daikin , stick with 5 star My Panasonic non-inverter aircond is from 10+ years ago and is due to change. Below are some of the units recommended by salesmen and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me which is good or out of the list below. I'm not an aircond expert per say and I'm having difficulties to choose a good 1hp inverter unit Syarikat letrik kien fatt Panasonic inverter deluxe 1hp - RM1750 5 star energy rating Include aircond installation Syarikat par Daikin smarto 1hp - RM1780 5 star energy rating T series 1hp RM1460 5 star energy rating Q series 1hp RM1320 5 star energy rating Ftkf25a model 1hp RM1280 ?? Rating No include aircond installation probably 200-300 Hong hwa marketing Lomo i 1hp - RM1180 3 star energy rating Installation - rm250, dismantle free if give them old unit Hf infinite marketing Lomo i - RM??; tbc Installation RM230 i think the Lomo i is 4 star ? ... correct me |
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Jun 21 2020, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(thor74 @ Jun 21 2020, 09:30 AM) It is effective to reduce the vibrating sound and helps to isolate the sound from getting transferred to the indoor. i doubt these dampers will help much. for those very sensitive to noise , chose Carefully where you install the AC outdoor unit. todays Aircond already have built -ins to reduce noise and vibration. sufficient i think . |
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QUOTE(xphr3ak @ Jun 21 2020, 05:09 PM) Guys, Price depend on your budget and satisfaction . i think can get little cheaper if you check out Lazada, shopee.Plan to buy Panasonic CS-XU18VKH from Senheng. RM3629 (1 year general + 1 Senheng warranty). Need to add RM259 if want additional 3 years warranty. Total: 5 years warranty. 1. Is the price okay? 2. Is Nanoe-X and Nanoe-G really effective? 3. Can i remain on 1phase DB for 4 inverter AC(2hp x 1; 1hp x 3)? Thanks. yes, NanoeX is good to have. Sharp has plasmacluster, Gree has Cold plasma ...etc etc.. , All work on same tech for healthy Air. The smell of fresh healthy Air is JOY . yes, 1 phase is OK. the 2hp need a direct cable from DB if your house dont have AC power outlet. the 1hp s make sure they dont share the same DB MCB point . some houses from 1 DB MCB they pull to share many power points. the power cable used for 2hp and 1 hp is different . check this , ask them/ installer . reason - due to AC current rating. This post has been edited by Momo33: Jun 22 2020, 08:51 PM |
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