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Momo33
post Jun 6 2020, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(64bit @ Jun 6 2020, 05:34 PM)
Just to update Daikin technician has finally fixed my Daikin FTKC 1HP Inverter R32 Aircon which is around 3 years old.

Initially error code U2 and then L5. Changed outdoor unit PCB RM465 + RM200 labor. RM150 checking fee waived if proceed for repair.

Most of the components are Rubycon

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yes expensive part s due to invertor.
the service 200rm is from daikin service or ... 200rm to change a pcb i think too much .




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post Jun 6 2020, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 7 2020, 12:37 AM)
That's the thing the tray is not full and maybe just wet and it still leaks but I can't figure out where the water is coming from.
It only happens if i use dry mode 28c for a long period of time , the first 12 hours usually no problem.

If the piping is stuck then usually the water tray will be full but it's not happening. Tried a lot of googling but everyone just points to drainage pipe.
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ok ..i guess water condense on another part of your unit and this water dont drop in the water tray .

you need to remove the unit cover...
operate the AC till you see water drop ... out .
then visual check where.

its your home so i guess no issues.






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post Jun 6 2020, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 7 2020, 12:37 AM)
That's the thing the tray is not full and maybe just wet and it still leaks but I can't figure out where the water is coming from.
It only happens if i use dry mode 28c for a long period of time , the first 12 hours usually no problem.

If the piping is stuck then usually the water tray will be full but it's not happening. Tried a lot of googling but everyone just points to drainage pipe.
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i will guess that 90 % of leaks are due to block drainage.
the dust and dirt build up over time and the tubes get block .



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post Jun 7 2020, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(thor74 @ Jun 7 2020, 12:57 PM)
i should corect your mistake.
There is no copper fins for residential airconds. Haier does not use Copper fins.
had they use copper fins, the price would be astronomical & your cheaper than Panasonic/Daikin
could not even pay for it.
Fins are made of Aluminium. Period.
The refrigerant piping can be made of Aluminium or Copper.
if they are made of Al piping, it is fabricated using called Parallel Flow as car condensor does and only applicable to outdoor (not indoor evaporator) for the reason of flowing hot gas.
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Yes, you are right . thumbsup.gif

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post Jun 8 2020, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(ArthurHew @ Jun 8 2020, 11:43 AM)
I'm using Daikin FTV35P.

I found out the sensor is not accurate. Always stop compressor at more colder temperature. Anyone have same issues?
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Normally the non invertor AC will stop the compressor at about 1-2 deg below your set temp.
so possible the room temp sensor is faulty . but can be other reasons .

what temp do you normally set on your remote ?
your AC is in a enclosed room or hall/open area? ,








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post Jun 8 2020, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(christ14 @ Jun 8 2020, 11:05 AM)
Im aware of the thread but just wana ask a side question. Does window tint heat rejection makes the AC work lesser for eg. A bright sunny afternoon
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yes... if there are a few windows in that room.


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post Jun 8 2020, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(ArthurHew @ Jun 8 2020, 03:05 PM)
Usually I set around 26.0C but it  goes down 24.0-24.5C feel too cold.
I am trying different setting.
Daikin have only 1 sensor in indoor unit. Which I saw some other is 2 sensor. So I doubt the accuracy.
It's enclose. Around 150sqft with 1.5hp.
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2.5 deg difference seems ok bro. getting old so .... nod.gif

i have a 5 years old daikin
normal have 2 sensors in the IDU

one placed on or near the coil
then other attach on the indoor pcb . some airconds have external means not on pcb. so the sensor is place somewhere near .









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post Jun 8 2020, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(SoMeOnE121 @ May 28 2020, 03:39 AM)
R32 much more energy efficient. Takes less power to compress.
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Is there any figures for what Savings between the gas ?

so far for gas topup most charge 50rm .






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post Jun 8 2020, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(ArthurHew @ Jun 8 2020, 03:39 PM)
2.5degree can be very cold haha.
My electrolux have 2 sensor obvious seen. It have very accurate control. around 0.5+- maximum side. also non-inverter.

Hmm you meant the daikin FTV28/35P have 2 sensor?
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yes all AC IDU must have 2 sensor to detect room temp and coil temp so can control the compressor to shutoff/ turn on.








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QUOTE(ArthurHew @ Jun 8 2020, 03:50 PM)
Coil sensor very obvious to be seen. However room sensor as your said its on PCB right?
Then the room measurement will be a bit deviated since its enclosed in the PCB.

If thus, meant more longer open the temperature accuracy more close. Since hidden in the PCB enclosure.
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yes my Daikin room temp sensor is on the pcb .
if you see pix of daikin IDU pcb you will see. google it.

that is why if you check Gree AC , they have a feature iFEEL .
gree put a temp sensor in the REMOTE to sense room temp.






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post Jun 8 2020, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(ArthurHew @ Jun 8 2020, 04:22 PM)
My FTV35P unit was went bad after 20 months using. Open around 8-12hours daily.
The Indoor Unit is having some sound.
After checking, the blower too dirty. Too easy trap dirt. Condenser wise still very clean since i do 6 months regular cleanup.
After cleanup blower, everything like magic. Freaking cold and silent.
The heavy dust on blower make it not balancing and cause noise.
Dust make bad CFM and cause not good heat transfer.
So either is bad design on blower or my area too much dust?
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i have same problem ..the blower collect much dust sticking to it. . daikin 6 year old.
cause... intermittent up down air flow pressure..
display fault code A5 on the remote .
later it will shut down the compresser

after cleaning was fine. nod.gif






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post Jun 11 2020, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(thor74 @ Jun 9 2020, 12:54 AM)
The energy saving rating comes from Sirim so they are consistent with other brands.

Nowadays Sharp aircond is ODM (design and made) by Chinese manufacturer most likely Midea after Sharp is sold to Hai Hon (Fox).
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i think there is big difference between chinese and taiwan manufacturer .

Hai Hon / Fox is taiwanese .
from what i read the AC designs are Sharp and Fox does the manufacturing .
correct me if i am wrong..






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post Jun 11 2020, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(kennobi @ Jun 11 2020, 11:59 AM)
Any sifu can recommend a good and budget 2hp air-cond which is for my living room. I have checked branded air-cond cost about 1K more from their initial 1.5hp price! Thanks in advance.
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check out Haeir AC s a good budget AC , a good choice if you live around Puchong area , their service center location.
it comes with 3 years warranty for ALL.

other brands can check is Sharp , Hitachi , Gree, Meida depends on your budget.

Try NOT to buy AC s that have low sales . checl lazada you can see sales volume for top sellers.
reason -- spare part will be difficult to find a few year down the road, and Expensive too by then .

check out Mitsubishi spares ..more expensive than others due to smaller sales volume.




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post Jun 14 2020, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(anderu87 @ Jun 14 2020, 11:59 AM)
Do you guys experience inverter air cond slow to cool a bedroom? My Panasonic 1hp R32 install earlier this year, from the start of use I feel not fast to cool down. Room is just condo master room, not big size.
After half an hour still not reach 23deg I set, my clock with temp show 28deg.
But at night and in the next morning my clock temp do show 24deg.

Is this normal behavior of inverter aircond?
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yes normal.
but i guess you need a 1.5hp AC . what is your room size ? A lot of big windows ?

assuming lowest temp reach is 24 deg but you set 23 deg ... you will NOT get any/much Power savings. nod.gif

if you set 23 deg , the AC compressor must work full load to bring the room temp to about 21.5 deg before it can slow down .
it may slow down earlier from comp overheat to protect it.






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post Jun 14 2020, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(anderu87 @ Jun 14 2020, 05:01 PM)
I see. Didn't measure room size. It's a 1000 sqft condo with 3 bedroom. So the master bedroom size will not be much. 3 piece window.
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ok ...
to dimension what size AC hp you need get/buy will depend on your room dimension .

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post Jun 15 2020, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(ken_zen @ Jun 15 2020, 01:58 AM)
do i need to change the piping if change from non-inverter to inverter aircond (same hp)?
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depends on the gas used in the non inverter. if R22 then change.
if piping already more then 5 years ..better change.





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post Jun 15 2020, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 15 2020, 01:15 PM)
I see... thanks.

Anyway i just kena rm340 for installation.

Rm300 for installation (6 feet copper wire)
Rm40 plug repair (my plug is apparently broken)

Is this normal?
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AC installation with free 10 feet is about 250 rm average.
some do charge higher .
I did mine at 250 rm this year.




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post Jun 16 2020, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Jun 15 2020, 08:21 PM)
My teenage dotter room 12x12x10 (WxLxH) uses 1hp inverter set at 21° and she's very happy 😂
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I got feeling that with above AC set up the room cannot reach 21 deg. nod.gif
and you are using the AC at full load most of the time. hence not much power cost saving.

its good practice have a digital thermometer to measure lowest temperature achieve
only then you can decide on the optimum temp to set on the remote. if you care about power cost . and also a way to verify if you have dimension
the AC hp correct.

for 10 rm you can get digital themo on shopee.
i bought a few and found them good accuracy .

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post Jun 16 2020, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(4lt4ir @ Jun 16 2020, 02:40 AM)
Use digital thermometer to measure lowest digital temp achieved in the room with the a/c on? Say if my room thermometer says that with my a/c on full blast after several hours, the lowest temp achieved is 23C. Then, optimally, what temp should I set on the remote?
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set to 25-26 deg will be nice.

best practice to start AC in dry mode for 1 to 2 hours
then switch to cool mode 25 deg.

above is for power cost savings
if you not worry about power bills then any setting you fancy is fine.






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post Jun 16 2020, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(thor74 @ Jun 16 2020, 08:10 AM)
Use this formula
Room W x L x H x 6
As an example 12 x 12 x 10 x 6 = 8640

1 hp (9000 Btu) will be OK
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what is the expected lowest temp i should get for this room assuming normal conditions at night , full blast ?
as a guide to dimension the AC .

what is the expected lowest temp i should be looking for assuming with this formula ?




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