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Momo33
post May 28 2020, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(64bit @ May 19 2020, 11:06 PM)
Just to update Daikin tech visited today and concluded for U2 error, the outdoor PCB needs to be replaced RM469 + RM200 labour.

However they're not able to replace the PCB due to my outdoor unit is very close to the left wall and they are not able to slot their screwdriver in to open the screw.

They tried to replace the PCB by opening just the right side screw but fail.

Disappointed to say tonight I retested and the AC has gone worst. Previously it is still able to pump cold air at night but now totally not. And the error code has changed to L5 now.
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inverter pcb are expensive... nod.gif


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post May 28 2020, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ May 21 2020, 12:12 AM)
I think all air cond quality have gone down.

In the past 2 or 3 years, 2 of my Daikin have problem. I heard Panasonic nowadays are no better.
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i do have both daikin and panasonic AC.
i find the daikin more problems and sensitive to dusty enviroment. so needs more cleaning.


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post May 28 2020, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Par@dox @ May 15 2020, 12:41 PM)
Happy to report that I managed to repair my own aircon. This is certainly an eye opener since I am not technically inclined. If not for MCO, I'd likely just have bought a new aircon instead of trying to repair it.

Some tips for those attempting self-repair :-

a) Check the error code as displayed by the aircon remote control.

b) Look up the error code to determine what is the fault, and what is the cause of the fault. It may be a simple fix or may require replacement of parts / piping.

c) If it is a complicated job, no choice lar.. have to call aircon technician or maybe just replace the aircon.

d) If it is a relatively simple repair (in my case, either the fan motor or the fan capacitor of the indoor unit PCB needs to be replaced), then look up the technical manual of your aircon model to see how to dismantle your aircon unit to remove and replace the part. If you are lucky, there may even be a video that someone has posted on how to dismantle your aircon. 

e) Make sure the power source is turned off and remove the faulty parts carefully (take a lot of photos along the way so that you can refer when putting it back together), and then order the parts from the vendor. For Daikin parts, look up Culmi Air Conditioning as shared by Ozak. They carry parts for other brands as well.

f) Put the aircon back together when you receive the parts.

In my case, the fan motor is only about RM100, and the indoor unit PCB was around RM280.. so all in, it was less than RM400. If I took my time to troubleshoot which was the actual faulty part (instead of replacing both), it would have been even cheaper.
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what error code did you recieve ?
Did you replace both the fan motor and the pcb .
the fan cap is on the pcb and normal this is the faulty one. higher failure rate .




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post May 28 2020, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Par@dox @ May 28 2020, 04:08 PM)
Mine was A6 error. I replaced both parts just to be safe.
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Great thumbsup.gif

Just for general info ...
a month ago my daikin AC start giving problem.
its cools for about 15 mins then the compressor auto shut down ...hence now just blowing air.
i got code A5 . sensor problem , lack of gas , clog fins. need to check these.

i use AC cleaner spray on the fins to clean it.. next the AC works intermittently .
i thought maybe lack gas... but i did not get a error code for this.

next i removed the AC plastic cover..
again do fin cleaning with cleaner and a tooth brush..
There is fins at the back not normally reachable if you dont take the cover off.

Used 2 spray cans to clean the fins front and back.
Now it work great .




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post May 29 2020, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(4lt4ir @ May 28 2020, 07:30 PM)
Can give link where to buy this AC cleaner spray online?
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There are many types on sale ..

i prefer below one cos safer to use .
Some use Strong Chemicals and for safety need googles, and mask nod.gif


I use these two below

https://shopee.com.my/WD-40-3-In-1-Professi...9050.1977557678

https://shopee.com.my/product/47959197/2289247550

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post May 29 2020, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(Par@dox @ May 29 2020, 12:38 AM)
Good that it work for you bro, but I have used those aircon cleaning spray cans before and they don't work nearly as well as a proper wash. There is a lot of dirt, dust and slime in the inner parts of the coil that you won't be able to reach with the spray cans. Since it appears to be clogged coil issue, you may want to do a full clean to relieve some stress from your aircon.
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yes you are right. it was MCO season so i have to to DIY . nod.gif

i realise i miss checking this aircond about 6 months .
so seems i need to check the filters every 3 months and do a light clean with AC spray .
every 3 years i normally get a full clean service.

clean the indoor fins
clean the indoor blower fan
clean the Outdoor fins




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post May 29 2020, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ May 29 2020, 11:09 AM)
My Panasonic 1.5hp already more than 12 years old. So far good. Just perform diy spray cleaning spray once per month.

Annually ask technician to perform general cleaning for indoor & outdoor

The most obstacles is dust penetrate the blower, which make air blower kinda stuck a bit. Not brave enough to open up the aircond hence ask technician
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you are doing it Right. thumbsup.gif
Need to check regularly your AC filters/fins for dust and DIY clean.

Clog fin/filters reduce your AC cooling performance and do increase your power bills.
Also higher chance your unit will Fail more. due to overheating parts.
so i am not surprise your AC is still going strong after 12 years..






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post May 31 2020, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(4lt4ir @ May 29 2020, 01:20 PM)
Thanks for the links. For the one made by wd40, some people say the green color can is better than blue color. Is it true?
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I am not sure . plus i havent tried the blue.
my guess is they should be the same...same company brand.




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post Jun 5 2020, 07:55 PM

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I installed 2 unit GREE Lomo-N 1.5HP non Inv Air Conditioner With Installation , cost 1250 rm each .

I just wanted to try a china made AC . i still have the working panasonic and daikin in my home.

Its been 2 weeks and i am impress .
strong blower fan ..can feel 15 feet away the strong cool breeze .
silent unit , same pana also silent .
very cold wind. its new !
iFeel feature .. really great : thumbsup.gif There is a temp sensor in your Remote for this .
Copper rod. coil
comes with 2 YEARS warranty ALL parts an 5 year on the COMP . pana only give 1 year warranty .

I know haier give you 2 to 3 year Warranty.. All parts too.
haier also use copper rods .

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post Jun 5 2020, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(chayjeong @ May 31 2020, 01:38 PM)
Anyone can recommend Aircon shop? Looking for a
1.5 hp inverter , 2 1Hp aircond
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try Gree Lomo N , 1.5hp with install 1250rm
2 year Warranty all parts.



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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jun 4 2020, 12:32 AM)
Dripping at which section? I would not fault the aircond itself for dripping because most of the time dripping happened because of poor installation or maintenance.
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yes... dripping problem is easy to fix..
just remove the cover .

check if any tube drop out .
visual check the water drainage tray .
check your tubes not block .
or your aircond unit is not level . install issue.









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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jun 5 2020, 09:01 PM)
Is the Gree an inverter? or standard?
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its standard 401 gas.

they do sell inverter unit too.



Just to mention here .

its very important to check and clean your AC filters monthly . more so if your Area is dusty one.
every 3 months service clean the fins . DIY . use WD40 AC cleaner Or equivalent others..
your AC will work cold . you SAVE electric bill . plus your AC will be more reliable / no breakdowns.

There are a few rules to follow if you want enhance your AC reliability .
service clean .
usage Hours . if you use 12 hours continuous daily ... sure high chance need tech Service
Temperature setting . if you set your temp 21 deg C daily ...sure will koyak fast ! or need Service often

i have notice an AC with faulty thermistor /pcb . It cause the compressor to RUN non-stop. You should know that some thing is wrong if the compressor never stops .( non inverter types )
it runs real cold for sure ...
your power bill will go up . and high chance of early fail compressor .

you can say the top AC brands failure rate is less than 2 % in the first year. you do get lemon units sweat.gif

Most AC like daikin , pana etc.. you can check for Fault error Codes the system collect via the remote .
do Check this if you suspect something is wrong like not working normal. or anytime when you are free.




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post Jun 5 2020, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(cryheart @ May 24 2020, 11:19 PM)
something like this , not include the compressor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKSIn4dMElk
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At least they should wash the compressor fins with a Power jet spray . the dust collect is so much !
A dirty condenser fin with shut down the compressor so you get warm air only blowing from your fan blower .





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post Jun 5 2020, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ May 25 2020, 01:35 PM)
this is a super noob question, but is 1.0hp the lowest spec? or is there 0.5hp aircon for sale in malaysia?
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i have seen 0.5 hp aircond in indonesia but not here nod.gif
dont know why



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QUOTE(SoMeOnE121 @ May 25 2020, 02:58 PM)
Create a seperate aircond only on/off switch next to the plug point.. Should be fairly easy to pull the wire. Don't use 3pin plug to plug your aircond.
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I think its OK to use 3pin plugs if your AC is 1 hp. run current about 3.5 Amps.

I am doing this . check that your plug and the cable do not feel extra warm during operation !









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QUOTE(SoMeOnE121 @ May 21 2020, 04:55 PM)
Yes correct..slight rattle sound due to flawed blower design..my aircond guy had to DIY a solution..He had to glue back metal spur...But doest affect all units..only if unlucky...the metal spur flimsy.. One of my rooms using sky series..had this problem
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yes they use a metal clip on the blower fin to do balancing . just like car wheel balancing .
if this metal clip drop off you may experience the rattle sound .







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QUOTE(xphr3ak @ Jun 6 2020, 10:15 AM)
What if gas pipe higher than main door unit. Should there be a problem?
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not really understand your question .

the gas pipe will out from the indoor unit , thru the walls at back or sideways from unit. .
the outdoor unit can be higher or lower than the indoor unit . no problem .

so for your question ...no problem - the answer. nod.gif






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post Jun 6 2020, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(xphr3ak @ Jun 6 2020, 04:52 PM)
This what i meant.  biggrin.gif

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yes can . try not to go more than 10 feet high .



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post Jun 6 2020, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 6 2020, 04:42 PM)
So guys what else can cause water leaking from aircond assuming water drainage is not clogged.
I've cleaned the drainage pipe, made sure is not clogged, put bleach and all but if i put dry mode 28c for a long period of time it still leaks which doesn't make sense.
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you need to check the water drain tray , located just below the cooling coils.
and the connection soft flexible hose to the out side. ( check tight connect ,not loose
the flex hose will connect to your drainage water pipe outside.

normally the tech will use a hose tube connect it just at the flex hose and blow with your breath.

in operation can you check if water is coming out from the pipe outside . should be dripping fast water.
this may mean NO blockage.


2. your AC indoor unit may be tilted mean not 100 % level. this may cause water leak .

3. Best is just take the AC cover out .. need to unscrew a few screws.
put the air cond on and observe the water collect at the water drain tray .

wait till it leaks .
or pour some water in the water tray to see if it can handle this .

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QUOTE(xphr3ak @ Jun 6 2020, 10:49 PM)
Thank you.  notworthy.gif
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reason being is there is lub oil mix with the gas..
the oil helps the gas smooth flow .
so normally going up too high is not recommended.



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