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SUSTXSim
post May 10 2016, 12:44 AM

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My house using Panasonic premium series inverter with ECONAVI turned on everyday for more energy savings.



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post May 10 2016, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(cooldownguy86 @ May 10 2016, 12:48 AM)
My room size is about 12x16x11ft. Based on btu calculator the recommended hp is 1.2HP. However mine is an old house with poor insulation - with large ventilation holes above the window. From an energy efficiency point of view,  Should i over compensate -  I.e go for 1.5hp inverter?  Or under compensate -  I.e opt for 1hp inverter, since the insulation is poor anyway? I expect to use the aircon 4-6hrs a day at 24 degrees.
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1.5 should be better if heat is more.
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post May 10 2016, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ May 10 2016, 08:28 PM)
Has anyone installed the new Panasonic Sky series inverter airconditioner?
Any review?

Also, if my current airconditioner is non- inverter, will there be any problem if I were to install an inverter without replacing the existing copper piping? I was told that the existing copper piping has to be cleaned first.
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Inverter use different piping.
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post May 11 2016, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(ck2chan @ May 11 2016, 12:32 AM)
Get a basic non-inverter Japan brand or can try Hisense.
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Hisense not good. Not recommended by shop.
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QUOTE(Leon be here now @ May 11 2016, 05:42 AM)
Thanks for all your help guys
Im helping my brother to sources some aircon, he is getting about 5 units in various sizes, reason I said LG was it seems very cheap, actually cheaper then Fujiaire ?
My bro got a lump sum cost from his friend, is its hard to determine the actual cost of the Fujiaire unit cost only,
But generally is Fujiaire cheaper then Haier, Hisence, Midea? cheaper by RM100-200?
My bro later saw a shop was advertising RM1220 - LG 1.5hp non inverter, no installation

Looks like the conclusion from forum members is not to use LG or Fujiaire
Budget AC use Hairer/Hisense/Midea ?
Next step up would be Daikin or Panasonic basic models?

Please help me to decide on what to get by providing some general pricing.
if a brand is slightly more expensive eg RM100-200 but more reliable, has cheaper parts, or easy sourced parts, long term ongoing cost etc... its considered a good buy.

For budget what are the rough cost for non inverter, exclude installation.
HAIER 1.5 hp = RM1x00-1x00??
HAIER 2.0 hp = RM1x00-xx00??
HAIER 2.5 hp = RMxx00-xx00??

Hisense 1.5 hp = RM1x00-1x00??
Hisense 2.0 hp = RM1x00-xx00??
Hisense 2.5 hp = RMxx00-xx00??

Midea 1.5 hp = RM1x00-1x00??
Midea 2.0 hp = RM1x00-xx00??
Midea 2.5 hp = RMxx00-xx00??

Is Acsson even considered a good budget aircon?

What about something better like
-Daikin or Panasonic basic models
-non inverter, exclude installation.

Daikin 1.5 hp = RM1x00-1x00??
Daikin 2.0 hp = RM1x00-xx00??
Daikin 2.5 hp = RMxx00-xx00??

Panasonic 1.5 hp = RM1x00-1x00??
Panasonic 2.0 hp = RM1x00-xx00??
Panasonic 2.5 hp = RMxx00-xx00??
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You can choose either of one.

Don't choose hisense since a few people using. The shop recommend us to choose Hisense brand. The most problem is water leaking.

Midea also OK. Very cold and model very cheap. Stayed one hotel with this brand air conditioning.

Daikin and Panasonic will be your perfect choice.

What type of function do you need extra in air conditioning?
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QUOTE(Richard @ May 11 2016, 04:43 PM)
Did the shop give reason why is it not good? 

not cool.. not high tech.. not good looking.. name not sound good?
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Leaking water.
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post May 11 2016, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(Leon be here now @ May 11 2016, 09:13 PM)
Thanks
Function in a office environment, currently being renovated, and inside temps are around 31-33 with windows open.
We target 26-28 degrees where its just comfortable, no need to be very cold as its just wasting money.
never heard of this brand but I will check it out thanks.
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Panasonic will be your best choice.

Minimum temperature for midea is only 17°C.


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post May 12 2016, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(cucubud @ May 12 2016, 08:39 AM)
Question on Panasonic Inverter iAutoX function.

Why is it that when I use this iAutoX mode, the aircond sometimes not cold and the blower not blowing air out?
I thought Inverter aircond will constantly blowing cold air at a set temperature?
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When the fan speed is set to auto.

It will blow the air after a few minutes.

Same to mine too

The fan will change the speed from low to high speed fan.

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ May 12 2016, 10:51 PM)
How to see the difference between piping for inverter and non-inverter?
Because during renovation few years ago, the contractor was ask to install piping for inverter aircon. Just that for some reason during that time, a non-inverter aircon was installed. And now since the aircon unit is going to be replace, thought of changing to inverter aircon
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Non-inverter can use both inverter and non inverter piping.
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post May 14 2016, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ May 14 2016, 11:50 AM)
meanwhile inverter must use inverter piping only , right ?
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Yeah. Inverter must use only Inverter piping.
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QUOTE(giggs_509 @ May 14 2016, 02:08 PM)
Fan auto vs fan 1 speed, which more save? 25C by the way
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Auto Fan save more.

Auto fan will change speed after a few minutes.

Fan speed 1 will waste the cooling. Cold slower than Auto mode.

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post May 14 2016, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(giggs_509 @ May 14 2016, 03:14 PM)
Ahh i see, but auto fan is noisy. Lol ok thanks!
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Sometimes it will occur.

Auto fan start later after 1 minute during startup operation.
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ May 14 2016, 02:42 PM)
how can we tell it is inverter pipping or not ? cuz i dont want to get cheat by the installer
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Check if the installer is holding thick piping.
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post May 14 2016, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(weng-aircon @ May 14 2016, 08:14 PM)
technically yes...
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Thanks for agreed with my answer as yes.
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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ May 15 2016, 03:23 PM)
Anyone using Hisense aircon here? I missed the promotion on gemfive for the 1hp one but there's 1.5hp on lazada for less than one thousand with shipping, worth to buy?
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Up to your choice.
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post May 15 2016, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(g104 @ May 15 2016, 03:33 PM)
avoid using inverter if u not gonna on it every hours. FYI, inverter is not cool than normal one & spare parts also slightly exp.
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Inverter can save electricity by maintaining room temp and fan speed.


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post May 15 2016, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(g104 @ May 15 2016, 04:41 PM)
nah if u just on during sleep time is not worth at all.
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Depends.
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QUOTE(kuai_chai @ May 16 2016, 06:26 PM)
hello..
regarding inverter or non inverter, for my case as below, shall i go for inverter or non inverter?
Mon-Sun: On 10pm-8am
Sat and Sun (at home), so on occasionally when it is hot, maybe 12pm-2pm, 4pm-6pm.

i heard inverter will consume more electricity if we on it less than 6 hours?
by using inverter, will sat and sun cost me higher electricity bills due to the 2 hours on and off?
any suggestions to overcome it?
thanks~
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Use inverter if weekdays use more.
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post May 16 2016, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(kuai_chai @ May 16 2016, 07:24 PM)
thanks.
any advice on how to save the bill on weekend?
my friend told me sometimes it's more save if i let it on without turning it off even im not in the room.. how true is it?
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Yes, it will save. Only applies to Panasonic Inverter with ECONAVI function.

ECONAVI detects human activity in the room.

It will increase temperature during absence detection.
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QUOTE(kuai_chai @ May 16 2016, 07:28 PM)
increase temperature?
will it save more if I turn it to 28 degrees rather than remaining at 26 degrees?
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Yes.

Above 24°C save more.

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