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SUSTXSim
post May 4 2016, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 4 2016, 05:41 PM)
Inappropriate explanation.  smile.gif

Non-inverter
Aircond start up, run 100%, blowing cold air non-stop until reach the pre-set temperature, then compressor off, until the temperature rise up again. Aka non-inverter work on the basis on and off the compressor which supply the coldness.

Inverter
Aircond start up, run 100%, temperature start to lower down, then it slow down the compressor motor as the "coldness" needed is reduced, the slowing down of motor through the inverter is the key saving feature.

On start up,
both will blow cold air at 100%, little difference between them (set aside the EER, higher BTU of inverter due to higher pressure use)

No such thing of "non-inverter waste electricity during start up", (if we set aside the BTU issue).
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ May 4 2016, 05:59 PM)
yes  thumbsup.gif
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post May 4 2016, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 4 2016, 05:41 PM)
Inappropriate explanation.  smile.gif

Non-inverter
Aircond start up, run 100%, blowing cold air non-stop until reach the pre-set temperature, then compressor off, until the temperature rise up again. Aka non-inverter work on the basis on and off the compressor which supply the coldness.

Inverter
Aircond start up, run 100%, temperature start to lower down, then it slow down the compressor motor as the "coldness" needed is reduced, the slowing down of motor through the inverter is the key saving feature.

On start up,
both will blow cold air at 100%, little difference between them (set aside the EER, higher BTU of inverter due to higher pressure use)

No such thing of "non-inverter waste electricity during start up", (if we set aside the BTU issue).
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If you said I'm wrong.

Explain for supersound and I.

You don't explain.

You will get fine.
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post May 4 2016, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ May 4 2016, 07:08 PM)
your knowledge in aircond very impressive ... are you a seller plus might be aircond technician ?
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I'm not technician or seller.

Some people will correct me or said my info and advice are wrong.

Just customer. I know about Inverter, since I know that Inverter is a new technology that save electricity.
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post May 4 2016, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(yeohsheng @ May 4 2016, 07:29 PM)
I'm new here. I'm not pro in inverter or air-cond. Never intended to reply or join the inverter vs non inverter fight. Just wanted to stop the unnecessary argument.

Here is everyone know.
Non-inverter will on and off throughout the air-cond turn on period. Whereas inverter will vary its speed to control the temperature in check.

There is no certain number of how many times that non-inverter will turn on and off during one hour period. It might be happen more time than you think.

For non-inverter
Here is what happen during the turn on where the in-rush current occur whenever the compressor is turned on. From the previous video, it show the inrush current is approximate 22amp. So 22x 240v /3600 = approx 1.5w/h assuming it only occur for split second. And the running current is 3.6amp. So 3.6x240v/3600 = 0.24w/h. From this we can see that if the on/off occur more, the kw/h used will get more and more.

Whereas in inverter case,
During first start, it actually varies from 0-100% speed slowly, so there is no inrush current occurred.

Now it is up to your understanding which 1 is actually more energy saving.
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I agreed with you. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 4 2016, 09:04 PM)
I don't see how my explanation is differ from your chart showed.

During start up aka when you turn on the air-cond time, both inverter and non-inverter will consume 100% of power to cool off the room, hence that's where I said no such thing of "waste electricity during start up.
Start up - when you turn on the air-cond time.

When temperature start to approaching to pre-set room temperature, then that's where the inverter start to vary its load, which is the major different compared to non-inverter.
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You cannot simply confirm about that.
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post May 4 2016, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 4 2016, 09:10 PM)
Air-cond is more prompt to failure as compared to refrigerator, because air-cond work "harder" than refrigerator.

We seldom "hear" refrigerator running unless it is being opened time or only "hear" it to run for a long interval period.
While air-cond need to constant cool your room non-stop.
Most of the time, refrigerator is idle state, due to insulation of heat from outside.
Less work, less prompt to failure.

Somemore, refrigerator is positioning in the kitchen, while air-cond compressor generally is placed at outside that subjected to sun light heat, rain and a more harsh condition as compared.
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Yes, good explanation about this, no arguing. smile.gif smile.gif
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QUOTE(supersound @ May 4 2016, 10:11 PM)
Well, he is just another baseless TCC only, that's why he don't dare to explain in detail. As by logic, cooling a room's temperature down 1°C needs at least 1 hour, still have to consider that's room's hardware setup which I'm pretty your room won't be same as mine.
Like before I install a door to make my room smaller, it takes 4 hours to cool my room. But after install that door, it takes 3 hours.
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OK.
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QUOTE(lhgoon @ May 5 2016, 01:29 AM)
Agree
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Good, as expected.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 5 2016, 01:22 PM)
What!?

I dont know if you had one. I just had one installed (1HP premium inverter AR09KVSDB) and it was silent. Compared with my old non inverter Hitachi, it was night and day difference.
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Check in YouTube. Other customers get affected by getting noise from air conditioner.
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QUOTE(supersound @ May 5 2016, 04:14 PM)
Dry mode not that nice , for testing is ok.
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Yeah, agreed. Dry mode for to dry things in the room.
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ May 5 2016, 04:24 PM)
It is the new York by Johnson Control. Just launch last year August. Made in China. The brand is good, the quality still too early to tell. If you don't want to buy Panasonic and Daikin/Acson. Then this one or Carrier is your next best choice. Others Japanese brand should be over your budget.
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For carrier, after faulty, unable to find service person.
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QUOTE(audiocool @ May 5 2016, 09:20 AM)
Hi guys,

We are here sharing knowledge only. No personal attack.
Try to make peace with each other.
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Yeah, sharing knowledge and discuss.

Not trying arguing with each other.
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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ May 5 2016, 09:23 AM)
kinda agree with you, but just let them,

popcorn time..

if really wanna save electric, just set the temp at 26..

test it myself. if set at 25, whole night run 8 unit of electric

22 and below 10 unit
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Yes, you're right.

We can save electricity by setting temp 24°C to 26°C
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QUOTE(DecaPix @ May 5 2016, 11:26 AM)
stop feeding the troll yo...
It's the same as saying the 10-15 fuel consumption figure means nothing
so "never argue with stupid people, ..."
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Yeah. We have stop it.
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post May 5 2016, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(keyser soze @ May 5 2016, 01:05 PM)
As an AC contractor, some times seeing this guy keep posting misleading info, just can't bare it.
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You can't do that, since you didn't told us that you're a contractor.

There is no point to simply say something that you didn't told before.
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ May 5 2016, 04:32 PM)
You just can't accept the fact that someone just don't have to work too hard to made money.
I never mentioned I made millions profit, even I do.... I don't think I need to accept your retard challenge by giving you a free AC.
When you loosing in an argument, you always draw the topics away and acting like a child, free AC because you challenge me in lowyat.net? Hahahahah, naive.
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Hi, can you just relax and calm down.

This is not a debate place. No one will confirm the answer.

Right or wrong you can correct them.

This is not a place to fight.

No money will be given if who wins.

Think positively before you post.

Calm down anger and stop saying nonsense.

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 5 2016, 01:31 PM)
I would say it is good. As a matter of fact, most air cond would be good initially and only after extended usage then only realize which one cost less to maintain over time or which is the more reliable brand.

I just installed the Premium Inverter model. Im happy with it although was disappointed that Samsung advertised Smart Wifi feature whereas it had no WiFi at all.
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Some information might be depends on country.
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ May 5 2016, 04:36 PM)
I can't do what? Do I need to introduce who I'm before I post anything? sad.gif
So I have to keep saying what I told before and can't post new things? sad.gif
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You have introduce yourself or didn't tell also never mind.

I don't introduce when I start to post.

You must introduce yourself before ignoring people.

You can still post. Like me, other people asked me "who am I?"

That day I answered " Just a customer to help. "

Just try to relax. Don't make till him try to get more anger and find you.

You can't simply say people talking nonsense and rubbish.

If they say to you like not trusting you. Give more explanation.
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QUOTE(supersound @ May 5 2016, 04:40 PM)
For a person that reluctant to provide after sales service, sure will simply recommend brands.
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Who? Me or that person.

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