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post Jul 20 2015, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Jul 20 2015, 11:42 PM)
Getting new air-conds for my apartment. Now I'm deep in the R22 vs R410a debate.

The air-cond installer seems to be discouraging the installation of R410a units due to the higher service costs and units that break down more easily.

Anyone here know how much more expensive it is to service R410a non-inverter units and if it really breaks down more frequently?

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How come Malaysian midset is always thinking R410a is an expansive maintenance?

They is no such thing on higher maintenance at all, from R22 to R410a both needs to maintenace and serving for clean out dust also.

Unless is gas leakage due to poor installation.

Nowadays all Aircons brand has been runing R410a gas already, from R22 gas will be shortage in future for sure the gas R22 price would be go up again, then baru complain why not get R410a in the 1st place.

R410a inverter or non inverter in the 1st place of the gas pressure are higher than R22, even turn on duration of the temperature reaching time also much faster than R22 as lower pressure.

For power energy from R410a will be much energy efficient too.

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post Jul 21 2015, 08:19 AM

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Not sure you guys can get it pure copper wire in malaysia market?
In SG hardware can get it anywhere user posted image
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post Jul 21 2015, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Jul 21 2015, 09:04 AM)
Why not you run an element test and see what is inside whistling.gif
If really 100% pure copper I don't mind pay you 1000 to buy it brows.gif
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In Sg just selling $26 for 30m long only
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QUOTE(supersound @ Jul 21 2015, 09:12 AM)
As said, run the test first. SGD26 or rm26 I don't bother whistling.gif
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You meant they can cheat?

Why no confident?

3x70 is quite thick Leh.. How to break?

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post Jul 21 2015, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Jul 21 2015, 09:15 AM)
As said, do the test first before boasting on this shit again whistling.gif
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Even test n run in condenser with high power load also won't be break as fast wow..


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post Jul 22 2015, 02:42 PM

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If 2.5hp inverter can consider for ME mr Slim quiet & cold.

Unlike Pana after 1 yrs plus the outdoor compressor already made noise, also left & right swing motor spoil and no responding at all
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QUOTE(skitZo` @ Jul 22 2015, 04:04 PM)
How much is ME MrSlim, cant seem to find it in my area. For 2.5hp is this model > MSY-GF24VA ?
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Online search for nearest your area

Unlike you in east malaysia

Correct the model
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jul 22 2015, 08:28 PM)
if using daiso filter then no need clean aircon for 1 year? i saw my electricity goes up if dont use max fan. it will be fast cold if max fan.hence less electricity bill
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3 to 6 mths lah.. I can selling u, if you wanted
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jul 22 2015, 09:31 PM)
how much?
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In SG $2 = RM5.70 but in JB Daiso is RM5 only
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jul 22 2015, 09:31 PM)
how much?
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After GST and charge u per piece including postage = Rm7.5 (but at least minimum Purchase for 6pcs only)

Ha ha.
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QUOTE(skitZo` @ Jul 22 2015, 08:00 PM)
Nice, econavi and inverter shld reduce electricity consumption.

Kimsim, the ME Mr. Slim 2.5hp MSY-GF24VA costs ard 3500 in my area, panasonic css24-RKH cost rm3000. These are without installation.
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You should try ME 2.5hp inveter, so far I still miss my JB home Aircons.

In SG can't enjoyable with bigger hp
My reviews
http://www.kimrovacstore.com/home-air-conditional-2015.html

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post Jul 23 2015, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jul 23 2015, 08:30 AM)
so cheap. 3M aircon filter rm 18 already. which one better?
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Daiso better lah, can change anytime.

Unlike Rm18 = how many set of Daiso filters already
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jul 23 2015, 08:38 AM)
3m can change only once a year and still cold. not waste time liao
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Sure or not won't getting stuck?

If that case, so ur fan coils & blower also wanna be doing chemical wash already

The blower like it an issue
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QUOTE(esoo88 @ Jul 26 2015, 07:58 AM)
I want to find out if Pana cooling coil can be dismantle for outdoor cleaning. I managed to removed the blower fan for high pressure jet cleaning, super clean now.

It is difficult to diy clean cooling coil, I use enzime fluid + steam cleaner, but I think using high pressure water jet cleaning is the best if possible.

Do you know if sharp's blower and cooling coil can be removed?

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Outdoor unit just use jet water spray was good enough, for indoor need to dismantle but the flare nuts must be know how to fixed it back without gas leaking as well.

Again my indoor cooling coil also use water slowly spray by my own too.

Before user posted image

After cleaned, not 100% but still look for minor dust stick on, better than nothing
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My jet spray here
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Also remember to cover on electronic portion
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jul 23 2015, 08:38 AM)
MHI internal looks


Wow the products design of internal wiring feel like made in China one.
Fan blower can remove, but don't simple remove it, after the fan motor portion lose and can't fixed back as well.

The additional feature like left & right horizontal swing is good for lazy person, from Pana deluxe also have same feature

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PCB portion
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Cooling coin still ok, better than Pana design
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The look before remove drain pan
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QUOTE(esoo88 @ Jul 26 2015, 11:56 AM)
Do you use chemical to wash? How do you managet the waste water when u rinse with water? Use plastic bag?
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No never do a chemical wash before even for all Aircons, the condition of 6 yrs now.

Use water spray may take some time lah.
Slowly spraying, for water will overfall from drain pan, but make sure carry something can be holding water lah.

My floors get wet also, after done n mop it only.
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QUOTE(rae0724 @ Jul 27 2015, 10:42 AM)
want to ask horrr..
currently got 2 inverter aircon in apartment
one is working well which the compress just place behind the wall of the wall using the accurate pipe
however, my room's actually gt aircond come from the developer, not inverter model, the normal pipe already plant inside the wall which the wall also stand as tiang (developer advice not to touch so much on wall, will crack)... so due to complicated procedure... i just let the aircon man install the inverter aircon using the current pipe. yet the aircond is a little bit far from the compressor place.. the aircond man said will make the aircond take longer time to cool..
but after i move in and use...feel the aircond not so cold.. every night need to turn on until 20, just got cool feel...
while the other aircond no need...
anybody can advice on it?
shud i call another aircond man to have a look on it?
or... the situation is like tat ... cannot change//./
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Try to engage another Aircon man and refil new gas would be more sufficient lah.

Mostly longer than 3-4m long should check the gas pressure.

Like SG all use multi split and the piping longer than 5-7m then how?

The gas pressure should more importantly at all
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QUOTE(rae0724 @ Jul 28 2015, 10:30 AM)
i see
coz before the aircond finish install..
the aircond man oso gt refill gas inside..
(this gas not same with the gas pressure?)
lowyat's aircond man here good or not?
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Pre-gas for enought between back to back an installed only, once an over 3m long should check the gas pressure wether is enough or not.

Gas for Aircon is the most important one.
Once low gas or shortage for the unit won't get cold at all, even set for 20-16C
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QUOTE(jimmy lai @ Jul 29 2015, 08:39 AM)
Hi All. is the Samsung inverter ac model AR09JVFSB better than others inverter brand?planning to buy this model n need some advice from sifu here.thanks
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Get LG still better than samsung Aircon.

Either option for Daikin inverter lah.

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QUOTE(jimmy lai @ Jul 29 2015, 09:57 AM)
Hi,base on below compare list look like Samsung better?
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Samsung more troubleshooting, if you know Aircon n you won't buy, rather than buy lg artcool premium mirror are better

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