QUOTE(BuFung @ Apr 3 2016, 05:51 PM)
So big your room? What is the size of it? Suggest that you partition it.
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Apr 3 2016, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(Roz Ariffin @ Apr 4 2016, 12:28 AM) Guys, need help. My aircond living room brand Electrolux never do service maintenance after few years. Go to DIY shop, ask them for air cond cooler cleaner, rm17.50 a can. follow the instructions.Even after I clean the filter, the cold is not it used to be. Do I need to add some gas? Or what? Can recommend any technian? Subang Jaya area. But since you mentioned few years already, consider to service it. |
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Apr 5 2016, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(weng-aircon @ Apr 5 2016, 05:30 PM) Ask the technician. What causes the leakage. They only have 2 types of water leakage. Yup, you are right, out of 10 air cond service man I met, all are saying the same. 1. Drain pipe clogged. This will leak like water fall. 2. Condensation of the piping. This probably like droplets. 3. Poor concealed drain pipe job (no level) this will easily clogged tour drain pipe if your room is extremely dusty. If your drain pipe never install properly this will get high chance of leakage + dusty. Condensation is caused by FCU poor air flow. Suggest to service. Drain pipe flush down with chemical. Can buy at any DIY shop. Usually they don't carry these stuff. Get for them. And. Never buy those can spray to spray your coil. It only get worst when the contamination flow into your drain pipe. It will stick when it's dry. I personal don't recommend this. If the can can works like a magic spray. Ac shop no need to do any servicing. Spend a little money to do the service. As buying using such junk(as pronounce by them), 1 can can be used for 10 times, and each time spray, the service interval can be prolonged by 4-5 months, so that's ~4 years interval. If more people are using it, air cond service man will close shop. Simple conflict of interest, I understand this very well. |
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Apr 5 2016, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Apr 5 2016, 12:44 AM) Does it stop leaking for a while after the outlets is cleaned? One of my AC units does the same thing - once every few months it'll start leaking. Go on a ladder, take off the front and lift up the unit then blow through the pipe (I know, a bit disgusting!) and it'll be fine again for a few months. QUOTE(mroctopus @ Apr 5 2016, 02:42 AM) There's nothing wrong with the design, most of the time is because we want it to look clean and extend the length and conceal it. It is very wrong basically, unless when doing the pipe works, the pipe are slanting 30° from air cond outlet till outside. But this never happens and the pipe is done at 90°.That's why the water drain pipe must be as short as possible. |
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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Apr 5 2016, 10:47 PM) I'm guessing mine has a bend in it somewhere which causes it to get clogged - all other 4 ACs I have don't have this leaking issue - drain pipe hasn't been cleaned in the last 4 years on those and no leak at all. Most of the time are installation issues, my longest length for water drain pipe are 5" at 90° before it goes down due to wall issues. Others are just 2" long.Even with vertical drain piping, algae growth are still there, just imagine if long length horizontal, what will happen? |
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Apr 6 2016, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Apr 6 2016, 09:31 AM) Hi all. The dumb question is, did you take out the filter and clean?I have one carrier aircon which brought on last year (nov). The problem arise when the unit is turn on for more than 4 hours, the aircon sometimes wont blow cool air. Checked with the compressor, the compressor stop but after few minute it began to start and the cool air being to blow out. But the problem is the compressor stop too frequent and although I set 17, the room not soo cool as compare to other aircon. Already call carrier service and the technician already came 2 times and the refuse to repair or change since during they visit, the aircon works well and no problem arise. What should I do now? *sorry for bad english* Looks like the cooling coil are severely blocked. |
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Apr 10 2016, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(HugeGun @ Apr 9 2016, 11:11 PM) Thinking which to buy.... please guide Any air cond you can open up and wash, the problem is after you install it back, will it still cold Panasonic PV18SKH Mitsubishi HK17VA Harvey norman salesman told me mitsubishi can open up for washing. Mitsubishi are having limited service centers, so better think twice |
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Apr 10 2016, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE(kazekage_09 @ Apr 17 2016, 11:28 PM) greetings fellow forumers, How high is high on your ceiling? <9ft or > 9ft?I planned to install an aircond in my living hall. Need recommendation on: - HP power - inverter or non-inverter - should I consider centralized-type? - brand (got 2 room airconds now mitsubishi and samsung and mitsubishi is the best) - roughly the estimated additional bills for a month Here are the details: - it will cover my living hall until my kitchen. It an open style house so nothing I can do about it. Size about 45'x18' I think (1 big tile is about 2 feet right?) - there also stairs to 2nd floor. - weekdays will use maybe 6pm-9pm. Weekends maybe twice 12pm-3pm and 6pm-9pm - I got a very high ceiling living hall so the volume is more i guess. - Windows not tinted. Many thanks! On the usage pattern, non inverter will be better. Inverter air cond only do wonders when it starts to regulate the output. 3 hours are too short for the inverter to do magic For house usage, split type are better as maintenance are cheaper. |
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QUOTE(swgiant @ Apr 18 2016, 10:17 PM) I always off the main switch when not using the aircond. Now my PCB spoilt in last year and this year, could it cause by too much on/off main switch and the so called hit by high wattage ? Is a fact that PCB for inverter do fail faster, only the difference is, which brand fails faster.Usually at the power supply, you have a capacitor that able to cater for voltage spikes. |
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QUOTE(panafone @ Apr 24 2016, 03:14 PM) A contractor quoted me this: Ask him to fly kite.1) upah pasang 1.5hp inverter = rm 481.00 normal 10 kaki paip. Jika tambah paip 1kaki rm 35.00 Jika paip kena tanam dlm simen harga lain. 2) upah pasang 1.5hp aircond biasa. rm 364.00 normal 10 kaki. Tambahan paip 1 kaki rm25.00. kalau paip tanam dlm simen harga lain. 3) upah pasang 1 hp aircond biasa back to back 10 kaki rm 312.00 tambah paip rm 25.00 kalau paip tanam dlm simen harga lain. Is this right? Seems so expensive. |
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QUOTE(thena123 @ Apr 24 2016, 06:12 PM) It depends how long you use it.Typically 1HP usage is 1000watt per hour, or 1 unit of power. Inverter will use more for the beginning, about 10-30% extra. So 2HP will be 2 unit per hour. It is a general guide, actual you need to check the back plate on the air cond you are buying. |
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QUOTE(thena123 @ Apr 24 2016, 09:00 PM) ariff A - Domestic TariffFor the first 200 kWh (1 - 200 kWh) per month sen/kWh 21.80 For the next 100 kWh (201 - 300 kWh) per month sen/kWh 33.40 For the next 300 kWh (301 - 600 kWh) per month sen/kWh 51.60 For the next 300 kWh (601 - 900 kWh) per month sen/kWh 54.60 For the next kWh (901 kWh onwards) per month sen/kWh 57.10 The minimum monthly charge is RM3.00 Taken from TNB website. BTW, make sure your account is residential tariff. |
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[quote=thena123,Apr 25 2016, 12:01 AM]
[quote=supersound,Apr 24 2016, 10:50 PM] ariff A - Domestic Tariff For the first 200 kWh (1 - 200 kWh) per month sen/kWh 21.80 For the next 100 kWh (201 - 300 kWh) per month sen/kWh 33.40 For the next 300 kWh (301 - 600 kWh) per month sen/kWh 51.60 For the next 300 kWh (601 - 900 kWh) per month sen/kWh 54.60 For the next kWh (901 kWh onwards) per month sen/kWh 57.10 The minimum monthly charge is RM3.00 Taken from TNB website. BTW, make sure your account is residential tariff. [/quot I dont know how to calculate. How do I calculate 1 hour of usage for a 2HP aircon? [/quote] Just do a rough calculation, your current monthly usage are at 300 units, so rm43.60 + 35.40(includes GST) As said on my first reply to you, 2HP usage per hour is 2units are just a general guide, actual it may be lower than 2 units, so I just use 2 units/hour to calculate. If you are using it 2 hours a day(on your living room), so it will be 60 units a month. Following the above tariff, so your new total usage will be 360 units, that's another rm32.82, so rm111.82. |
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QUOTE(eddyann @ Apr 25 2016, 10:42 AM) I help you on this. Using my AC mode clamp meter, for 1 HP is about 3.3A, so roughly 2HP is about 6.6A for the current consumption. let say the incoming voltage is 230V so you have Setting at 28°C and boasting inverter safes energy are a good way to mislead.Power (W) = 230*6.6 = 1518 or 1.518 kW. Again this is rough calculation but the accuracy is there. This power only achieve during the compressor kicks in, lowest temp (16C) and high speed blower. Therefore, for first 200 unit block consumption it would be 1.518*RM 0.218kwh = RM 0.33 per hour for Panasonic Inverter 1.0HP (5 star rating by the Energy Commision) with Econavi mode from my reading it was Settings => 28 C , full speed blower , econavi ON Current consumption the first 1-2 hours => 2.7-3.5 A (621 - 805 W) After 2 hours till to the 12 hours => 1.0 - 1.2 A (230-276W) about 6 pieces of normal flouresent lamp Yesterday already come out in the newspaper stating that inverter are not really safes energy if set the wrong temperature and wrong HP used. For your case, it already run into ramp down mode for sure it will be using lesser energy. If set at 25°C, it will be using more energy than non inverter. http://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/home-...cs-v9rkh-1.html http://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/home-...0skh-1_0hp.html Comparing to both of the above and considering current El-nino effect, if were to set 25°C, the non inverter will win inverter hands down if using them for 4-5 hours. |
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ Apr 25 2016, 12:54 PM) You are the one that misleading, Well, for inverter is we need to see the bracket part also, while you accidentally missed this. So is you that are trying to mislead, not me.From your link non-inverter is 11.1 Btuh/W (9,210Btuh/830W). Means 1 W of electricity removed 11.1 Btuh of heat. Inverter is 12.57 Btuh/W (9,550Btuh/760W). Means 1 W of electricity remove 12.57 Btuh of heat. Do the maths. I believe I have proof you wrong before and you still come here to mislead people. Please check back our conversation on 23rd Sep 2015 as shown below. [attachmentid=6479014] Side track a bit, just realised that Urusara 7 1 hp AC EER is 19.53 (8400Btuh/430W) |
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ Apr 25 2016, 02:34 PM) "As I said before, inverter only do wonders when it starts to ramp down its output, else it will be worst." Nah, if I post a link also you will twist, because this is what you want. WIll you dare to buy that newspaper? Nope, you won't, as that will straight blow your lies.Your links already proof you wrong, at max load no need to ramp down, inverter still have better EER. means still more efficient at any circumstances (ramp down or not) if compare to non-inverter. "But I'm sure you will deny this, go and buy yesterday's SIichew on the first 10 pages already prove that inverter are not god in power savings." See, your links proof you wrong. Now you try to spin to yesterday Sinchew (luckily not last year one). I seldom read newspaper, but my house do order Sin Chew. Let me go back and read it. Again what I suspect is they did't proof anything, just someone who act expert and talk cock like you. "You may able to twist in the forum, but you can't twist what in reality." You are the one who post those links which generate by manufacturer's expert, but they backfired. Now you spin to yesterday newspaper. You call newspaper is reality? Now I know why Utusan still haven't close shop. BTW, asking people to read this, read that to justify your non sense is always your style. This time you are smart, no more link so I can't shoot you on the spot. Not like last year, you post a link of hundreds pages technical manual to ask people read carefully and still end up nothing. Again next time ask people to read encyclopedia. (Those interested about how supersound spin previously, can start reading from page 57~61). |
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