Need to replace my aged insulation foam. Where do you guys get a good one in KL/PJ?

Idk if anybody already asked the same question but I have to wonder whether it consumes lots of electricity when we put AC on standby? Because I already set the ON timer and OFF timer settings so I rarely touched the remote control let alone turn off the main switch.

What do you guys think?

I contacted one supplier, and they said the R32 gas models are latest and much more saving. The gas is also cheaper than R410A.

But when I contacted my usual technician, he claims not many use R32 hence its much more expensive.

Also the same piping (0.6mm) is applicable to R32A rite?

Aircond list based on power consumption.

Onedrive link, excel spreadsheet:
https://1drv.ms/x/s!AtoOl-yLHwuzjBJsjBkuUVtv3vNB

What was changed from previous
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- Updated reference price for all airconds.
- Added Gree airconds
- Added Haier new models
- Added Hitachi new models
- Added LG new models
- Added Samsung new model

Disclaimer: All data is harvested from respective manufacturers website, I am not responsible for any information accuracy in the spreadsheet provided.

Cheapest 1.0HP Non-Inverter: Gree GWC09QB @ RM 588.44
Cheapest 1.0HP Inverter: Sharp AHX9UED @ RM 937.48
Cheapest 1.5HP Non-Inverter: Midea MSK3-12CRN1 @ RM 816.00
Cheapest 1.5HP Inverter: Hisense HAC-13TGI @ RM 1,197.00
Cheapest 2.0HP Non-Inverter: Hisense HAC-18DJN @ RM 1,376.00
Cheapest 2.0HP Inverter: Hisense HAC-20TGI @ RM 1,869.04
Cheapest 2.5HP Non-Inverter: Hisense HAC-24DJN @ RM 1,588.00
Cheapest 2.5HP Inverter: Haier HSU-25VNH16 @ RM 2,196.96
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thanks for sharing.. but im comparing Sharp inverter and non inverter.. Row 155 and row 163..
Seem like non inverter is much cost saving than inverter for monthly energy cost.. Column O

If based on logic in excel, the difference is quite minimum likely RM5 different between inverter and non inverter.. so it isnt better to get non inverter?

*Updated*
Okay i understand ady.. the tariff which is average 0.282 in excel.. but residential rate do have few categories, in case more than 200 kW, is 0.334 anad next 100 and above is 0.516 ady..
probably inverter is better cost savings in electricity?

is rm150 expensive for ac service for below model?

1.5hp non-inverter panasonic

they claimed to do detail cleaning service by dismantle each major parts like fan vent, coil, chemical wash, refill gas, etc..

also quoted rm80 for basic cleaning.. so what do u think they will do with just rm80?

i was wrong, rm160 is for r32/r22 type, for r410 it is rm220.
so, is rm220 is still expensive?
1.5hp non-inverter..

how it should works for gas refill? isn't it needed to be filled in on each service? chemical wash will dismantle the whole AC unit..

how it should works for gas refill? isn't it needed to be filled in on each service? chemical wash will dismantle the whole AC unit..

hi, if the aircon copper routing until 51ft for 1.0 HP. Will it take more energy to cool and take longer time to cool also? tq for noob question.

Sorry again.
Sadly my Mitsubishi aircond decided to breakdown after 7years, technician came and checked, noted ??the electronic board is broken....they advised getting a new one.

I am wondering, what happens to the old aircond when I install the new one? Will the kedai people charge to help throw it away? Or will they BUY it from me for the part?

wah...betul ka!!!!
then i can get rm100 lagi

does the recycle scrap yard take if the "main board" rosak?

really nobody is using Gree aircond? too new? or because Made in China?HAHA...

GREE is one of the manufacturer for those company rite? They are doing quite well recently in China and expanding overseas..
I actually planning to get GREE for my house....
Anyway, SHARP are doing promotion also...maybe can consider...AHX18UED only selling RM2,000 for 2.0HP Inverter set..

pls dont go for non-inverter anymore. your electrical bill will killing you. i just comparing non-inverter and inverter of 1.5 hp. turning on only at night. my eletrical bill for non-inverter Rm 130 per month while inverter RM 50 per month

It depend how cold u set the temperature.I am using non inverter aircond 1.0 horsepower about 12 or more hrs a day.
Temperature will be usually at 28 i set.My bills per month is at below RM100.
NO point to set temperature so cold and then cover with thick comforter.

If you want to save electricity, choosing the lowest horsepower (1hp) is most crucial as it's a lot more economical even than the next one up (1.5hp). So, try to select 1hp if possible. For bedrooms, try to go with 1hp even though the bedroom might be huge because you don't need very cold temperature to sleep. I usually set 26 degrees C at low speed at it is already very cold.

For living room, depending on the size you usually need 1.5hp and above so you can't compromise to much in this area.

The comparison between inverter and non-inverter (RM130/month for non-inverter and RM50/month for inverter) may be a sweeping statement. The difference can't be that much as it will depend on usage pattern. As I have said earlier, usage pattern is a much more critical and important factor than type of air-cond ie. inverter or non-inverter. No doubt, inverters may be more economical in terms of electricity consumption. Nevertheless, if one practices good habits with the use of air-conditioners, non-inverters can register good economy too. Ie. 25 degrees C and above at low fan speed instead of 16 degrees C at full blast.

Once you go above 1hp, meaning 1.5hp and above, the electricity bill will be a lot higher. Our house has 1hp. 1.5hp and 2.5hp. Once the 1.5hp is used occasionally in one month, the spike in electricity bill can be easily seen. In other words, if it is possible, try to fit 1hp instead of 1.5hp. 1hp + ceiling fan can be a good replacement for 1.5hp in some situations.

Similarly, it's non-inverters for me too.

I am aware about air-cond capacity that's based on the size of the room. I am citing examples of rooms that aren't calculable, large open spaces. Imagine a big hall of irregular shape with large openings, and you just want to provide cooling for one small area only. If you want to calculate the whole area, 2.5hp also will not be sufficient. In this case, the selection of 1hp over larger capacity units will be applicable.

In typical cases of an enclosed room ie. a bedroom, for your previous case of a 1hp non-inverter being not sufficient, there can be few possibilities. Either the room size is too large (1hp being under-spec) or the unit is poorly maintained and not producing the coolness and when the temperature is set lower the electricity bill is higher. Different people have different cooling requirements. Some people may feel that the room is already cold while some may feel the same room to be warm and not cold enough. That is another factor as well.

Maintenance cost for R32 should be slightly cheaper than R410A as it is a single component refrigerant, where else R410A is a combination of R32 and R125. Gas for R32 can be topped up at any level, while R410A depends on the pressure level. If it is below 100psi, the whole thing has to be discharged and refilled. If it is above 100psi, it still can be topped up.