I'm not sure how to explain why, but I don't pray every day. I guess I didn't think I need to keep repeating and trust things will go its course? Dunno.
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Jul 7 2015, 06:05 PM
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I'm not sure how to explain why, but I don't pray every day. I guess I didn't think I need to keep repeating and trust things will go its course? Dunno.
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Jul 7 2015, 06:06 PM
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Also last week my church's sermon talked about wisdom. It's the Wisdom's banquet, where Lady Wisdom urges people to leave their simple ways.
I keep wondering one thing: What are 'simple ways'? If it's worldliness I don't see how it's simple. In fact man-made religion is complicated sial. |
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Jul 7 2015, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 7 2015, 08:38 AM) Any of you struggle praying on daily basis? I know I do. Sometimes after I finished browsing lowyat forum, I would just sleep without praying. I do pray in the morning though.No I'm not playing police here, maybe we can share challenges and difficulties. When I watched a really scary horror movie, I would pray too. So how do we overcome this? Is it laziness or due to lack of motivation? |
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 7 2015, 06:05 PM) I'm not sure how to explain why, but I don't pray every day. I guess I didn't think I need to keep repeating and trust things will go its course? Dunno. Prayers to me isn't just requests but can be just simple and plain conversation with Father God. Sometime I just talk to him on the things that irritates me in life. lol.QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jul 7 2015, 11:12 PM) I know I do. Sometimes after I finished browsing lowyat forum, I would just sleep without praying. I do pray in the morning though. not bad. At least you pray every day.When I watched a really scary horror movie, I would pray too. So how do we overcome this? Is it laziness or due to lack of motivation? |
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Jul 9 2015, 07:43 AM
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The Definition of a Priest
The dictionary tells us that a priest is a person who serves God professionally. Most Christians would tell us that a priest is one who serves God. This is right, but what does it mean to serve God? Today’s Christians would answer that to serve God is to work for God. This answer is wrong! To say that a priest is a person who serves God is right, but to say that to serve God is merely to do something for God, is wrong. Priests are the most normal and proper persons, those who realize that God's plan is to work Himself into a group of people in order that He might be their life and that they might become His expression—1 Pet. 2:5, 9; Rev. 1:6. The Scriptures reveal that before the ages, in eternity past before the foundation of the world, God had a good pleasure, a heart’s desire (Eph. 1:9). According to His good pleasure, He made a purpose, an intention, to gain His heart’s desire, and He also made a plan to accomplish His purpose (3:11). In this plan He determined to work Himself into a group of people so that He might be their life and they might be His expression (1:5). Based on this divine determination, God created man. Man was destined to receive God, to be filled with God, to be saturated and permeated with God, and even to flow God out, so that he might be the living expression of God (Gen. 1:26; 2:8-10; John 7:37-39; Eph. 3:19; 1:22-23). Although a priest is a person who serves God, this does not mean that he works for God and does something for God. According to the revelation of the Scriptures, to serve God is to receive God into us, to contact God, and to be filled with God, saturated with God, and permeated with God. Furthermore, to serve God is to flow God out and, in this flow of God, to be built up with others as a corporate expression of God. This is the proper meaning of serving God and of being a priest. QUOTE A priest is simply a person who is filled with God, one with God, taken over by God, and even possessed by God in a full way and built up with others in the flow of the life of God to be a living, corporate expression of God on earth today. This built-up corporate entity is the priesthood. |
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Jul 9 2015, 08:07 AM
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How to pray in d morning and night...,
Any example? how long does each prayer takes time? |
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Jul 9 2015, 09:01 AM
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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Jul 9 2015, 08:07 AM) Hi Cute Miao,You know, prayer is just basically talking to God. It is best to pray earnestly as how your spirit pray. You can also ask for the Holy Spirit to help you to pray before you start your prayer. Prayer is best lead by the Holy Spirit in you and thus there is no rule how long or fast a prayer should be. Don't feel bad if it's too short or the words spoken doesn't seem to sound good. What is important is that your prayers is genuine and just truly earnest with nothing to hide. I mean if you're angry, express it in prayer, if you're sad and disappointed, express that out too. You know why? By putting methodology on how to pray in the morning or night, we create our own rules, And thus It can be in a way become ritualistic, praying for the sake of praying (robotic) rather than praying earnestly or in Spirit and in Truth. Hope this helps a bit if not at least. God Bless. |
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 9 2015, 09:01 AM) Hi Cute Miao, mind to share some examples?You know, prayer is just basically talking to God. It is best to pray earnestly as how your spirit pray. You can also ask for the Holy Spirit to help you to pray before you start your prayer. Prayer is best lead by the Holy Spirit in you and thus there is no rule how long or fast a prayer should be. Don't feel bad if it's too short or the words spoken doesn't seem to sound good. What is important is that your prayers is genuine and just truly earnest with nothing to hide. I mean if you're angry, express it in prayer, if you're sad and disappointed, express that out too. You know why? By putting methodology on how to pray in the morning or night, we create our own rules, And thus It can be in a way become ritualistic, praying for the sake of praying (robotic) rather than praying earnestly or in Spirit and in Truth. Hope this helps a bit if not at least. God Bless. |
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Jul 9 2015, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Jul 9 2015, 11:13 AM) hi hi allow me to jump in. Have you received JESUS as saviour ? if you look at WWJD thread and look how megatron123 hated about GOD ? most likely megatron was genuine then devil bullied him to impress that prayer is not working. atheist cannot differentiate between HS (Holy Spirit) and other spirit so we concern that when you pray, you have some experience, you think from Holy Spirit, but actually devil deceived you. Only people that received JESUS as savior can differentiate between which one is HS and which one is not. Then from that, prayer life can grow. |
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jul 9 2015, 11:26 AM) hi hi 'allow me to jump in. Have you received JESUS as saviour ? if you look at WWJD thread and look how megatron123 hated about GOD ? most likely megatron was genuine then devil bullied him to impress that prayer is not working. atheist cannot differentiate between HS (Holy Spirit) and other spirit so we concern that when you pray, you have some experience, you think from Holy Spirit, but actually devil deceived you. Only people that received JESUS as savior can differentiate between which one is HS and which one is not. Then from that, prayer life can grow. yes, baptist 25 december 2013 |
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Jul 10 2015, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jul 9 2015, 10:12 PM) I have this problem. I do pray but I seem to think that if a stronger brother or sister prays for me, God will answer will my prayer better. Its a misconception, of course. Are you sure? But I don't have faith in my own prayer, that is the problem I am facing. I sometimes think that God listens to me less if I pray, in contrast to others praying for me. I know its not true but my actions does it. I think of this verse about your situation. Luke 12:29-31 29 And do not set your heart on what you will eat or drink; do not worry about it. 30 For the pagan world runs after all such things, and your Father knows that you need them. 31 But seek his kingdom, and these things will be given to you as well. Always remember that our God is a loving God, and there is nothing that is impossible for Him. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- But what about those unanswered prayers? I can only know 2 things. Maybe because we didn't ask, or we didn't ask the "right" question? Secondly, our motive is wrong? Or the things that we ask is not according to God's will? Perhaps our senior members can shed light upon this. I'm curious too. |
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Jul 10 2015, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jul 9 2015, 10:12 PM) I have this problem. I do pray but I seem to think that if a stronger brother or sister prays for me, God will answer will my prayer better. Its a misconception, of course. That's the promptings of the Devil.But I don't have faith in my own prayer, that is the problem I am facing. I sometimes think that God listens to me less if I pray, in contrast to others praying for me. I know its not true but my actions does it. You must recognize it as that and reject it completely then believe in the word that God says He WILL hear your prayer and He WILL answer by Faith. Now you know the reason why we must live by Faith and not by the works of our hands? |
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jul 10 2015, 12:11 AM) But what about those unanswered prayers? Yes Correct.I can only know 2 things. Maybe because we didn't ask, or we didn't ask the "right" question? Secondly, our motive is wrong? Or the things that we ask is not according to God's will? Perhaps our senior members can shed light upon this. I'm curious too. |
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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Jul 9 2015, 11:13 AM) Morning, pray for Wisdom, Protection, Grace, etc that sort of thing.Night, Just spend quiet time talking to God about your day. If you want format of Prayer, I'm sure you know Jesus already laid that out. You can use that as an example but let it flow naturally with the Spirit. Matthew 6 (NIV) 9“This, then, is how you should pray: “ ‘Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, 10 your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. 11 Give us today our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation,a but deliver us from the evil one. ’ The format basically teaches us to 1. First Address and Recognize the Sovereign Power and Authority of God. Hallowed be your name means Great in Power and Sovereign is your Name. When we understand this, it should put us at ease to have faith that things will not fall apart or that there will be random mishap. (Ver9) 2. Learn to be submissive to God and trust that He knows best...YOUR Kingdom come, YOUR WILL be done. (ver 10) 3. Know that you have a Right to ask for your daily bread AKA your daily need in life. This is not food mind you but everything you need in life. Can be anything, in your work place, at home, personal...Anything and Everything. (ver 11) 4. Learn to be forgiving and really...what I mean Forgive is You can remember the hurt but you can FORGET about holding on to it in grudge. Let go. If you hold on to grudges and unforgiveness, it stifle your prayer and Christian life (ver 12) 5. Last but not least you CAN pray asking the Father to spare you from testings. I know in the Christian community, we all learn that testings are meant to build us up, even though painful but here Jesus teaches us that WE CAN ask God to spare us from trials, testings. You know why? We can do so much more when everything is at peace. (ver 13) There you go, hope it helps you. |
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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jul 9 2015, 10:12 PM) I have this problem. I do pray but I seem to think that if a stronger brother or sister prays for me, God will answer will my prayer better. Its a misconception, of course. Do you know why indonesia has revival ? because a lot of people pray.Do you know why malaysia almost no revival ? because lesser headcount pray. So it's not a misconception. Your logic is correct. Why WWJD thread success ? a lot of people pray for it. Honestly that thread should dead long time ago but somehow it just survived. Headcount matters. |
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 10 2015, 09:03 AM) Morning, pray for Wisdom, Protection, Grace, etc that sort of thing. thank youNight, Just spend quiet time talking to God about your day. If you want format of Prayer, I'm sure you know Jesus already laid that out. You can use that as an example but let it flow naturally with the Spirit. Matthew 6 (NIV) 9“This, then, is how you should pray: “ ‘Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, 10 your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. 11 Give us today our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation,a but deliver us from the evil one. ’ The format basically teaches us to 1. First Address and Recognize the Sovereign Power and Authority of God. Hallowed be your name means Great in Power and Sovereign is your Name. When we understand this, it should put us at ease to have faith that things will not fall apart or that there will be random mishap. (Ver9) 2. Learn to be submissive to God and trust that He knows best...YOUR Kingdom come, YOUR WILL be done. (ver 10) 3. Know that you have a Right to ask for your daily bread AKA your daily need in life. This is not food mind you but everything you need in life. Can be anything, in your work place, at home, personal...Anything and Everything. (ver 11) 4. Learn to be forgiving and really...what I mean Forgive is You can remember the hurt but you can FORGET about holding on to it in grudge. Let go. If you hold on to grudges and unforgiveness, it stifle your prayer and Christian life (ver 12) 5. Last but not least you CAN pray asking the Father to spare you from testings. I know in the Christian community, we all learn that testings are meant to build us up, even though painful but here Jesus teaches us that WE CAN ask God to spare us from trials, testings. You know why? We can do so much more when everything is at peace. (ver 13) There you go, hope it helps you. |
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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jul 10 2015, 01:01 PM) That's why I also pray in tandem with with my prayer request with others. thats because your imagination is somewhere else. I dunno why my prayer have not been effective. I pray last time but I feel not answered. But I always hear people say "bless the work of your hands" Mark 11:24 Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. --- believe that you have received meaning: your imagination has to imagine you already received, regardless present condition. when you received something, you suppose to be happy and content right ? are you happy n content after praying, or feel betrayed ? |
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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jul 10 2015, 01:01 PM) That's why I also pray in tandem with with my prayer request with others. Try to capture the secret of why Joseph was so successful wherever he go and whatever situation he's in.I dunno why my prayer have not been effective. I pray last time but I feel not answered. But I always hear people say "bless the work of your hands" It'll answer what you're asking. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 11 2015, 08:47 AM |
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