Hi guys,

Since my tyre not in good condition, so I'm planning to change my tyre to either Bridgestone Potenza RE003 or Michelin PS3.

Current tyre:
Size: 195/60R15
Model: Bridgestone MY-02

Plan to change to use 55 series.

Any suggestion or comment on these 2 tyres? I need tyre which more fuel efficiency, good grips, good handling and reduce tyre noise.

Thanks for your comments.

Haven't use re003 yet, but was on re002 and now changed to ps3. Noise-wise i think ps3 shud be quieter, performance wise i dunno....but i expect somewhat similar. But price-wise re003 a lot cheaper...my 205 45 17 price difference nearly rm90 per piece.

And i expect ps3 to last longer...

Spec wise PS3 should be better in the wet with AA traction rating while RE003 might be better in the dry if looking at the lower tread wear and bigger block-ish tread pattern.

Good grip will not give you fuel efficient. But since you going to change 60 series tyre to 55 series, you'll feel the car can go more mileage now, since the reading will be more than actual km traveled. Syok sendiri.

RE003 or PS3 both will give you good grip, and better experience than your current tyre.

May I know how long was the re002 last for u?


OIC... can't be both dry and wet be good? =.=


Previous tyre was 185/65R14, then I change rim to 15". I think the tyre shop man change wrong tyre size for me as 195/60 was out of the diameter variance and the speed reading will be run out a lot.
Yes, RE003 or PS3 will definitely better than current Bridgestone MY-02 which is entry level of performance.

This post has been edited by HaloJ: May 31 2015, 10:36 AM

Yea, they change wrong size for you. Should be 195/55R15.

This size got many choices for performance or comfort.
Other than that 2 brands, you can also look for Toyo T1-R, or R1-R if you got deep pocket. Hankook Ventus V2 also an affordable choice.

I only used it until 35k km, about 3 years...i dont travel a lot....

My other car is using 195/55r15 tyre...nitto neogen...am quite impressed with both its dry n wet grip, but not that kind on fuel consumption...

Last time i bought them the price is nearly similar to ps3...so between the two i think ps3 better...

btw what car r u driving ? cause weight of car also have some effects on tyre wear

Can, there are plenty tires like that. PS3 is actually considered to be one of the best all rounder tire in the market. If going big sizes and got bigger budgets, Michelin PSS is even better. There's also Goodyear F1 tires, very good all rounder. Usually look for tires with tread wear in the 200-low 300 and traction rating AA (UHP & max performance class tires) should give good dry & wet performance. But of course those extreme class tires which very much focus on dry grip ultimately will sacrifice wet performance as they'd need as much rubber on the road as possible, hence less grooves to channel out water.

Yes, your tire now is too big, should go for 195/55/15.

You should look at the overall tire diameter, not just the tire profile. Going lower profile but with larger rims may still give the same total diameter, hence the same distance traveled.

As you say, "may". But I say it is much smaller after based on the calculation. You know 195/55R15 is how much smaller than 195/60R15?

Toyo T1-R and R1-R seems to be hard core type.
Just need some tyre for daily normal and abit performance use only.

Nissan Sentra SE 2003. the last batch of the pre-facelift N16.


As I know PSS only have 18" and above. So didn't think of it.
Goodyear didn't give a good impression to me.

Ah so you meant comparing that specific sizes, then yes you're correct. I thought you're comparing the TS original size to 195/55/15.

PSS only has 1 size in 17' then the rest are 18 above.
GY F1 series are actually very good tires, handles very well both in the dry & wet, comparable to Michelin Pilot Sports.
Anyway for your size 195/55/15, you only have a rather limited options if going for UHP tires: PS3, GY F1-D5, Yokohama S.Drive are the most popular ones, maybe some Hankooks. PS3 should be your best choice.

I think RE003 too new to comment as not much user. Search around Klang tyre shop on last week which the stock not ready. Need to wait for few weeks.
so the current winner will be the PS3 for UHP tyre.

This post has been edited by HaloJ: Jun 1 2015, 04:07 PM

PS3 for daily use.. its more comfortable due to soft sidewall, good performance in rainy days, and silent too
RE003 for occasionally track day.. harder sidewall for good steering response, grip should be better then PS3, in rain should be ok with average speed 80km/h..

if ur car also for family, not recommended RE003, if ur car only for urself then RE003 all the way..

Thanks a lot for your reply.
Most of the time my gf & I on the car. just weekend fetch parent for dinner or somewhere else.

I'm the type of driver more towards aggressive when alone or with gf.
Just drive smoothly when with family.

It's hard for me to choose between these 2 model.

then from ur situation u describe, RE003 all the way.. its not like u have family yet.. fetch parents only weekend still ok.. summore RE003 cheaper by rm30-40 per piece.. but need to remember it maybe wear quite fast..

hmmm... thanks for advice.
I don't mind it wear fast coz I might change car near future.

haha.. nice one

If its me, between the two, definitely the RE003 for me. Price to performance wise

good grips u will suffer FC abit, so if u want good grips u cant get better fc than ur current, PS3 last abit longer, above average for both wet n dry, all rounder to me. Swap your tyres every 20k-30k, check tyre alignment every 10k, then ur tyre sure last longer

ps3 i s much better

If ps3 and 3st,which one is better?my ride is mazda 5 2012.main concern is comfort and quiet ride.i get rm350 per pcs for 3st and rm356 per pcs for ps3.price is b4 gst.

If you want comfort and quite ride, 3ST is designed exactly as your requirement.

And don't forget to check with the shop around how many thousands of kilometer usage then you'll need to do tyre rotation, balancing and alignment.

So the grip wont be too bad,rite?i means dry and wet grip at straight wit follow speed limit.

I've tested 3ST tyre before, high speed wet and dry cornering, the tyre still stick to the road, didn't feel losing confidence with it's grip. Of course I don't recommend you to try the tyre limits on the road or even on track, it is designed for road usage, not racing or even drifting.

Sorry if this offend you, no meaning to attack or anything. I'm really intrigued how you know PS3 will last a bit longer than RE003? Especially when RE003 just came out 2 months ago.

This post has been edited by xxboxx: Jun 4 2015, 10:01 PM

Bro,thanks for your explanation.then i think 3st should enough satisfy me since im wont test the tyre limit wit mpv car.

Only rm6 difference, no brainer choice: PS3! It's a higher performance tire but yet still comfortable.

Yes, will try this out.

mazda 5 use primarcy lc for quite and conform. ps3 is for sporty ride.

Ya.i agree wit you.i already decide 3st for my mazda 5.ps3 maybe wil use it for my preve cfe when next tyre change

Pls don't compare GY Eagle F1 directional 5 with either PS3 or RE003, only the bigger brother Asymmetric 2 can compete with these tyres.

If you prefer an all rounder by all means go for PS3, if otherwise mainly on dry grip performance then RE003.

RE003 Traction A & Temperature A only. Whereas PS3 is AA & A. And bear in mind the flagship for Bridgestone in passenger range is the S001, which is quite old already.

I used PS3, then GY F1 D5 and now RE003.
Hands down, best tire is PS3. It is the tire of choice if they were all the same price.

Between F1 D5 and RE003, the F1 is AA & A as well. Among all 3, the tread wear is the lowest on the Bridgestone.

I haven't been able to gauge the RE003 in heavy downpour yet, but for dry, it sticks. One thing is certain, its stiffer than both the PS3 & GY F1 D5. Noise I can't tell cause temporarily my exhaust is on full ah beng mode.

Between the F1 D5 and PS3, the most significant difference is the aquaplane resistance on the PS3, and how it is unwavering in heavy downpour. F1 D5 can get a bit jittery at times in the wet, but regain composure very fast. As for the grip in the dry (no, I didn't whack corners in the wet I'm not crazy). Both grips well, the difference is PS3 is linear, more gradual, you can feel it starts to understeer when it can't make it, no drama, no fuss, just chill. The F1 D5 starts to under sooner than the PS3 (same corner, outside my house, daily route), and rolls a bit more than the PS3, less precise feeling. Frankly speaking, for normal driving on public roads, they are both good enough, but the confidence in the wet for PS3 is well worth the price premium.

RE003.. I haven't whack enough yet, let it scrub in a bit. But initial impressions, stiffer/harsher than both. Among the 3 I feel F1 D5 more comfortable, quieter. And F1 D5 tread wear very the good, long lasting.

When I changed from PS3 to F1 D5, price difference was ~RM20 per donut. Now that I know how they compare, I'll choose PS3 cause the RM20 extra is damn worth it for the confidence in wet.

Then this RE003 came into the picture. For the price of 3 x PS3, I get 4x RE003. So here I am.

Thanks for your informative reply.
Lets wait your comment on the RE003.

Yup.. i've used F1D5 back to back with PS3.. really no contest.. F1D5 will aquaplane even when new.. to me f1d5 is just a touring tire..

i've been on PS3 for more then 6 years.. so far i try to read review or feedback from other tyre to change.. but non of them as good as PS3 which is winner for all rounder.. the only weakness of PS3 is soft sidewall which make aggressive or hard maneuver will make it wobble..
before i change to PS3 for the 1st time, i use Hankook V8RS which is really good on wet and dry (i remember i can speed up until 160km/h in heavy downpour using 205/45/16 tyre size which make it quite awesome tyre).. harder sidewall then PS3 which make hard turn very stable.. but the production end so early, so no more in market, so that's why i choose PS3 which until now i really cant change my mind to try other tyre because non of them as good as Hankook V8RS

as for RE003, its for occasional track day user.. not daily with heavy downpour rain and silent tyre.. but the grip is marvelous and its sidewall is harder then PS3.. so its not family cars tyre with better grip in wet and dry..

Is it necessary to do alignment and adjust camber after change 4pcs new tyre?even the alignment is ok b4 change tyre.if the shop ask to install adjustable screw for camber,is it need follow wat the shop said?

If the shop give you free alignment due to buying 4 new tires then just go ahead. If not free then no need, you can just try it first to see how your car feels after tire change. If you feel the steering is not straight anymore then do alignment, if not then why need to pay for it?

As for camber screws, again the same, is the camber measurements really out?? If not then why need to have? So pay attention to your alignment measurements and see if really need such camber screws, don't just blindly follow what the mechanic tell you because more often than not they will try to con you to spend as much as possible.

Ok.noted.they are provide free alignment if change 4pcs new tyre.so u means if the screen there got red color for camber ,then need install the adjustable screw to adjust the camber?

You need to see the measurements la, how many degrees camber, positive or negative also.

Actually you don't have to redo your alignment after changing tyres. Normally what the tyre shops will give FOC is only in the balancing but if they do give you free alignment, why not but if you feel your alignment is all good, you can politely reject their offer.

Adjustable camber screw wise, if its all okay, insist on not changing them.

I guess gonna give re003 a try

ive been reading a few threads and i dont really see people comparing tyre's rating eg: W,Y,Z A,AA and so forth... hmm

whats the price for re003 now ? I saw few shp having promotion for this tyres. between indo n thai, which quality is better ? planning to change to re003

If you have to choose, PS3.

what is your size?

What's the best price you got for 4pcs of 205/55R16?

Price depends on the size.
Made in Indo or Thai just the same coz they make the same spec tire, so just buy which ever you can get cheaper.

Hankook V12 Evo 2 also seems a good choice, maybe even better value for money.

currently hard to get R003 as limited stock. anyone knows shop got stock?

Thank you

http://www.michelin.co.uk/tyres/michelin-pilot-sport-4

PS4 is out, but not sure when it'll reach our shore..

also, it's following foot steps of GY F1A2/F1A3, size starts from 17" only..

Good that it's still available in 17'.
Continental CSC6 has already arrived, I saw in 1 shop last time but seems only 19' upwards.

U will not go wrong with any of the two..i can recommend ps3 since have experience with it but from review re003 is on par and might b cheaper

Over here in Penang, it seems RE003 is much expensive than PS3 or even same price for 195/55/R15.

I've been using the PS3 for 46k and the front is due for a change. The rear tire seems to have at least 30~40% to go before reaching the tire indicator.

Actually, I wish to change to RE003 for a try. But, the price is not promising and RE003 thread wear is A rating only.

What is the other tire brand that can beat PS3 in term of performance?
If don't have, I would go back to PS3 then.

PS3 is ok. Since PS4 is coming out and no size for 15 rim.

You got rotate your tyre or not? why from and rear diff?

Yes RE003 prices seem to be increasing since end of last year.
Btw it's the traction rating that is A, not tread wear. This suppose to indicate wet traction though, not dry. The tread wear rating is 220.

Other option UHP tires that may match the PS3 but should be at cheaper price can be the Hankook V12 Evo 2 which just came in to Malaysia market around mid last year. Then there's the Goodyear F1-D5 which is almost as good at least in the dry and last long too, but maybe a bit more noisy and not as good in aquaplaning. If you can get at a price much cheaper than the PS3 though then it's still worth to try. Other than those, I think no other choices for the same high performance tires at that small size.

6UE5T,

Thks for the advice.

I will check the price of Hankook V12 Evo2 and Goodyear F1-D5.

My size was
195/55/15

That's for Europe, we here have to wait for them to develop new compound for ASEAN market. Like how previously Primacy 3 after launched IINM almost a year later only they launch here. But for local market here smallest size sure got 15"

Any fully oil to intro? If can with price and place to get it. Prefer suitable for Vios second gen

Just finish whacking my 1st set of RE003.
Lasted about 30,000km which I feel is a a little bit on the low side. Then again, I've been on several harsh touge runs so... I guess it is to be expected.

Threadwear rating for this tire is now: 220

Updated price:
235/45/R17 - RM400 @ Racing Z in Bandar Sungai Long
235/45/R17 - RM440 @ OS Autocare in Shah Alam.

Prices exclude 6% gst.

Now you use back 003?

Kind of expected since tread wear rating only 220. Did you wear it down to the tread level indicator or still a few mm above that?

Great, someone finally had the same problem I see in this tyre-usage at 30K KM and the RE003 needs to be replaced. I am on this tyre too, and had about 15K KM on my ride with this tyre which now left with 20% thread left.

Well I can't really complain.

The first set of RE003 tires only cost me RM285 per piece back in May? of last year.

I mean for that price, I can accept that thread wear is low.

but he is on touge run... so 30k is expected kot.. if daily standard highway and normal road running... should be more gua

Maybe. I am on a 235/40/18 and it could be the weight of my car too. I am driving a CC sports. My PSS didn't last me long ~25K KM only.

yea lor... could be could be.. urs is low profile liao ....40 only I think most of the other here on the 55 1... lolx...damn... driving big car come at a cost... lolz...

Sigh. Anyway, this tyre is good but just didn't last long and noisy. If you want quietness, can choose PS3.

Walaao no wonder. 40 18... Sure wear very fast..

c la.. now still using it... monitoring it.. so far so good.. but like u said la. is a bit noisy... since I was from Michelin tyre as well.. was on xm2 last time..quite good also lasted me 70k.. still 25% left...PS3 maybe for big car like urs la... us driving small car 1... xm2 or r003 can liao...lol..

any idea where to get this RE003 around KL / Selangor area for 215/45/17? (recommended shop with reasonable price)

Already bought?

Changed mine at acantatech lakefields sg besi.

Price quite reasonable. Forgot the price lah, it was Sept last year.

haha thanks bro.. i changed mine at Oscar Tyre Sdn Bhd.. shah alam.
good price tho..
worth to went there..

This reply is coming a bit late but I hope it'll be useful for others.
Most modern cars already have adjustable camber. This whole "adjustable camber nut" only applies to very, very old cars. My 10 year old Camry, 6 year old MyVi also come with adjustable camber as standard. All these shops will do is remove your original nut which is perfect for your car, and replace it with some RM5 after market shoddy nut, then charge you RM150 a piece.
Don't trust the readings on the computer/machine screen. Those have been manipulated. They can easily adjust the "offset" to give you bad readings.
One way I know if my camber is off is by looking for uneven tyre wear. If one side of my tyre is badly worn out while the other side is fairly good, then something is amiss.
In any case, most modern cars will not need their camber adjusted for at least about 10 years of usage, maybe even more. The only time you need adjustment is if the car has been through a major accident or if you drive it in construction sites all day everyday.

Also look out for the metal valve scam. They will claim that the metal valves are better but in my experience, they're no better than the regular plastic valves. The rubber around the metal valves will still wear out as the tyre ages.

are u sure your info is correct?regarding to the metal valves,i had changed 4 sets of tyres for my vios and they are stil running good without air leak.compare to the rubbers,there was once it leaked before the tyre wears out completely.

I changed all 4 also and 1 leaked before the tyre was worn out and is well within it's service period. My other car is using rubber/plastic valves all the way till the end of the tyre's life and not a single problem encountered. Point here is it doesn't make a difference big enough to warrant the price.

Even if it's true (no way to know this for sure), some who cares for aesthetic aspects of their wheels surely appreciate the looks and feels of metal valves and do not mind the price.

Yup. Can't argue with that. If the price is ok for you and you like the way it looks, then by all means, get it.

furthermore it is not that expensive. its just around rm 10 a piece but can last for 4 sets of tyres changing and stil working good.

Hi,

How much you paid for them? I m looking to change 4 pieces .

rm310 per pcs exclude gst...
you may bargain with him if you change 4pcs.

that time i went there he offered me achiles atr sport 1 - 4pcs - rm600 only. tyre age 4515.. consider ok lah
but i used the atr sport 2 before so i know how it goes...

my friend looking for michelin pss.does it really not long lasting?heard it last longer than the ps3.

I've not tried PS3 on my current ride. I have other cars which is using PS3 but doesn't have the size of the PSS.

Should be pretty similar durability coz tread wear rating also almost the same (PS3 320 and PSS 300).

okay..but 25k seems very fast botak.

how about comparing the performance?any advice?

PSS is higher performance than PS3 especially in the dry. PS3 should be better for aquaplaning resistance though.

means ps3 is better for raining?

Yes should be, especially on heavy rain with puddles.

okay.thank u for your info..i try do some research first.

Can go into this site, they have a lot of compilation of tire reviews and comparisons in Europe.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/

thank u for ur suggestion.

You can never go wrong with Michelin PS3, the best all-rounder tyres.

Is it quiet also? I'm using Bridgestone potenza re050a and it'd noisy like mad. Driving me nuts.