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post Jun 24 2015, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 24 2015, 04:04 PM)
Weh?  huh.gif

I thot the BAe hawk was the TUDM replacement for F-5?
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hawk for f5? lelz... macam downgrade je... hawk subsonic ler..
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post Jun 24 2015, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jun 24 2015, 04:09 PM)
hawk for f5? lelz... macam downgrade je... hawk subsonic ler..
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Kisah the speed only? rolleyes.gif

F-5 old design already, I'm pretty sure Hawk is far superior in every respect.

Keep in mind TUDM operates the single-seat light fighter version of the Hawk (Hawk 208) with far better performance, armament and electronics, not the lame two-seater advanced trainer one most people use.

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SUSalaskanbunny
post Jun 24 2015, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 24 2015, 04:14 PM)
Kisah the speed only? rolleyes.gif

F-5 old design already, I'm pretty sure Hawk is far superior in every respect.

Keep in mind TUDM operates the single-seat light fighter version of the Hawk (Hawk 208) with far better performance, armament and electronics, not the lame two-seater advanced trainer one most people use.

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only if you have air control and all surface anti air have been cleared... ok vs insurgents/peenoise sulukz... but wanna use for conventional warfare? become target practice...
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post Jun 24 2015, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jun 24 2015, 04:24 PM)
only if you have air control and all surface anti air have been cleared... ok vs insurgents/peenoise sulukz... but wanna use for conventional warfare? become target practice...
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agree,different class to compare.
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post Jun 24 2015, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Jun 24 2015, 04:07 PM)
BVR kalu fulkrum kena dulu.
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pinoy got BVR missiles ke???
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post Jun 24 2015, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jun 24 2015, 04:24 PM)
only if you have air control and all surface anti air have been cleared... ok vs insurgents/peenoise sulukz... but wanna use for conventional warfare? become target practice...
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And 1960s F-5 is better than this how?

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post Jun 24 2015, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 24 2015, 04:32 PM)
And 1960s F-5 is better than this how?
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how? read up lor...
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post Jun 24 2015, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Jun 24 2015, 04:31 PM)
pinoy got BVR missiles ke???
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sidewinder pun takde. tongue.gif
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post Jun 24 2015, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jun 24 2015, 04:52 PM)
how? read up lor...
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huh? blink.gif
That's a lazy answer...

Anyway, TUDM used F-5 back then because its wat we can afford, so when we are now wealthier and can afford better fighter planes like MiG-29 and Su-25, so what is the point does TUDM need an F-5 replacement would do nowadays? It's not like we can afford better fighters like the ones I mentioned above. rolleyes.gif

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post Jun 24 2015, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 24 2015, 05:47 PM)
huh? blink.gif
That's a lazy answer...
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for a lazy question laugh.gif

can hawk overrun a manpad missile? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jun 24 2015, 05:49 PM)
for a lazy question  laugh.gif

can hawk overrun a manpad missile?  hmm.gif
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Probably not, but thats why planes have flare and chaff dispensers.

Also, by your standards, A-10 would also be an super useless plane because clearly it cannot outrun a MANPADS missile, fire air-to-air missiles or gain air superiority.
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post Jun 24 2015, 06:06 PM

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OI WAT THE F*CK HAPPEND HERE!!! blink.gif
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post Jun 24 2015, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 24 2015, 05:57 PM)
Probably not, but thats why planes have flare and chaff dispensers.

Also, by your standards, A-10 would also be an super useless plane because clearly it cannot outrun a MANPADS missile, fire air-to-air missiles or gain air superiority.
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that's why f-35a are to replace a-10s... a-10 is in a whole diff class, it has 2 engines, heavily armored, especially pilot cage.. and operated by a strong air superiority backing compared to hawk... diff roles





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post Jun 24 2015, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 24 2015, 06:06 PM)
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OI WAT THE F*CK HAPPEND HERE!!! blink.gif
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shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif

why is he not dead?
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 24 2015, 06:06 PM)
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OI WAT THE F*CK HAPPEND HERE!!! blink.gif
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hit by dud laugh.gif dunno how it was launch... d primer still intact
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 24 2015, 05:47 PM)
huh? blink.gif
That's a lazy answer...

Anyway, TUDM used F-5 back then because its wat we can afford, so when we are now wealthier and can afford better fighter planes like MiG-29 and Su-25, so what is the point does TUDM need an F-5 replacement would do nowadays? It's not like we can afford better fighters like the ones I mentioned above. rolleyes.gif
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I would think KAI FA-50 fighter aircraft is good enough to replace F-5.
In before TUDM only buy jet fighter that not yet purchase by asean country.
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post Jun 24 2015, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(James831 @ Jun 24 2015, 06:20 PM)
I would think KAI FA-50 fighter aircraft is good enough to replace F-5.
In before TUDM only buy jet fighter that not yet purchase by asean country.
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Why should replace F-5 with FA-50?
I always thought MiG-29 is the replacement already for the F-5. Is there still need for TUDM to have light fighters since we can already afford some of the more advanced fighters in the world?

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Analysis from Marhalim's article.


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RMAF Q&A Part II: MRCA et al

Marhalim Abas
June 24, 2015

SHAH ALAM: THIS is the second part of the RMAF Q&A which was part of the service’s 57th anniversary gig last month. If you missed the first one go here .

And like the first part, an analysis will be provided to give a perspective on the latest development especially on those concerning RMK11.

Analysis
As the Q&A was conducted in late May, it is expected the answers here have been taken over by events. It appears that RMAF will have to consider leasing as industry sources told Malaysian Defence that the MRCA programme has not received the go-ahead for RMK11.

One source had said that the MRCA could go ahead during RMK11 if a special allocation was made for the programme. Personally I do not think this is likely. The same special allocation was spoken off during the last 10 years but nothing had materialised and I do not think it will occur this time either.

Analysis
As stated in the previous posting, it is the MPA requirement that had been approved to be funded under RMK11 and not the AEW programme. I have no idea why the MPA was chosen ahead of the AEW programme. Perhaps the events during the last two years, notably MH370 and the Lahad Datu incursion were the tipping point. If these events were the reasons, I am pretty sure now that we are fighting yesterday’s war. And AFAIK there is no absolutely no word on UAVs in the RMK11 allocation. I am not sure whether the allocation was not sought or the funding were denied.

No Cougars in RMK11

Q: Industry sources told Malaysian Defence, RMAF is seeking to buy 12 more Airbus Helicopters H225M Cougar in RMK11, is this true?

A: Procurement of more H225Ms was planned but due to the financial restrictions and other procurement priorities, it was not registered under RMAF’s list for RMK11.

Analysis
It was generally expected that RMAF will repeat an order for the H225M in RMK11. However the exclusion of funding for the helicopters meant that the service will continue to rely on Nuris for at least a decade or so. It will also forced the Nuri Upgrade programme to be expedited despite the problems with digital cockpit supplier.

If the Cougars were excluded from RMK11 how did the heavy lift got the nod instead?, one may asked. It is possible that the heavy lift helicopters requirement came from another service, most likely the Armed Forces Headquarters.


Full article: http://www.malaysiandefence.com/?p=6513

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jun 23 2015, 12:15 PM)
V-22 Osprey vs CH-47F Chinook
if price not take to consideration.... which one your prefer?
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v22 70mil, chinook brp?

still chinook, cooler looking,
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 24 2015, 06:24 PM)
Why should replace F-5 with FA-50?
I always thought MiG-29 is the replacement already for the F-5. Is there still need for TUDM to have light fighters since we can already afford some of the more advanced fighters in the world?
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then hawk also light fighter right? laugh.gif

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