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waja2000
post May 27 2015, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(OvenBaked @ May 27 2015, 03:28 PM)
Finally someone brought up mrca issue in parliment, my man here from MP Limbang

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than got answer?
maybe he or deputy replay “we current focus current treat,no need high tech weapon like bought by other asean country...” biggrin.gif
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post May 27 2015, 03:53 PM

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post May 27 2015, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 27 2015, 02:09 PM)
Rmk11 will see quite few project for maf.
but dun expect a big project like the av8 or sgpv.
sad but I can't get any news regarding mmrca though saab guys were seem optimistic on its. hmm.gif
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hmm.gif do you mind sharing what are the projects? smile.gif
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post May 27 2015, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ May 27 2015, 03:51 PM)
than got answer?
maybe he or deputy replay “we current focus current treat,no need high tech weapon like bought by other asean country...” biggrin.gif
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No response, parliment nearly empty during that time
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post May 27 2015, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ May 27 2015, 03:51 PM)
than got answer?
maybe he or deputy replay “we current focus current treat,no need high tech weapon like bought by other asean country...” biggrin.gif
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To be fair, it seems now Malaysia has a lot more low-level threats to deal with than possible conventional warfare. Cross-border kidnappings, returning Malaysian IS jihadists, Southern Philippine militants, uncontrolled illegal immigrants entry and maritime territory disputes (arguable as some issues do involve intervention by RMN, some issues are law-enforment issues handled by APMM).

With these mounting issues and limited budget, I'm pretty sure there are some merits for putting extra effort to solve these problems.
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post May 27 2015, 04:57 PM

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Looks like whatever sph that will be chosen in the future for atm it will be tracked version

Just hearsay from industry players
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post May 27 2015, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(OvenBaked @ May 27 2015, 10:49 AM)
Huge if you compare it with low/mid class of fighter jet

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its role is air superiority right? same as F22?
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post May 27 2015, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(ahchat @ May 27 2015, 05:21 PM)
its role is air superiority right? same as F22?
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yes, but also a long-range deep strike fighter
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post May 27 2015, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 27 2015, 11:03 AM)
Later buy type10 mbt. tongue.gif

Japan, Malaysia agree to begin defence industry collaboration

Japan and Malaysia have agreed to co-operate on defence trade and related technologies as a reflection of deepening bilateral ties, a joint statement said on 25 May.

Following meetings in Tokyo between Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and his visiting counterpart, Najib Razak, a statement said the two countries would "initiate negotiations on the framework for co-operation on the transfer of defence equipment and technology".

The statement said the move to collaborate in defence trade is part of a commitment by the two countries to raise their bilateral ties to a "strategic partnership".

The elevation in ties will also facilitate closer maritime security links, co-operation in Malaysia's infrastructure development programme, and collaboration in training and education.

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maritime boss especially coast guard

most also MPA

K2

QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ May 27 2015, 04:57 PM)
Looks like whatever sph that will be chosen in the future for atm it will be tracked version

Just hearsay from industry players
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apa lagi K9 lah... bundle with K2 also good
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post May 27 2015, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ May 27 2015, 09:18 PM)


K2
apa lagi K9 lah... bundle with K2 also good
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i support k9 for malaysia, pzh 2000 is too heavy and i dont trust china made weapon unless it something like manpad plus track-armor is good at least can survive small grenade
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post May 27 2015, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(hafizushi @ May 27 2015, 10:14 PM)
i support k9 for malaysia, pzh 2000 is too heavy and i dont trust china made weapon unless it something like manpad plus track-armor is good at least can survive small grenade
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to be honest, i rather take pzh2000 to K9.

because it most likely be cheaper or as cheap as those from korea as we will be using those overhauled instead of brand new

Plus, it german made, pzh2000 fire faster and more shell storage sweat.gif sweat.gif

or better



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post May 27 2015, 11:33 PM

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Chinese Coast Guard heavy patrol vessel CCG 2901 takes to the ocean on sea trials

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The CCG 2901 departs for sea trials on the East China sea

China's (and possibly the world's) largest coast guard patrol vessel, CCG 2901 has left port on 21 May for sea trials in the East China Sea. The heavy patrol vessel, estimated to weigh 12,000 tons with a hull length of 161 meters and a beam of 22 meters is an obvious sign of the level of seriousness the Chinese government is indulging to protect seas that is sees as its territorial waters.

The patrol vessel is thought to be capable of long-range transoceanic patrols, but is expected to be deployed mainly to the East China sea region, where China has significant maritime territorial disputes with Japan and Taiwan, centered on the ownership of the Senkaku Island chain (Diaoyu Islands in Chinese) and its surrounding waters.

The CCG 2901 is armed with a 76mm gun, two 30mm autocannons and a number of smaller machine guns. It is also capable to deploy and house up to two Z-8 heavy transport helicopters for various rescue and law-enforcement duties. A number of smaller boats carried onboard also enable it to send out boarding parties or anti-piracy teams.

The CCG 2901's sister vessel of the same class, the CCG 2501 is still under construction and is expected to come into service sometime in 2016.
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 27 2015, 11:33 PM)
Chinese Coast Guard heavy patrol vessel CCG 2901 takes to the ocean on sea trials

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The CCG 2901 departs for sea trials on the East China sea

China's (and possibly the world's) largest coast guard patrol vessel, CCG 2901 has left port on 21 May for sea trials in the East China Sea. The heavy patrol vessel, estimated to weigh 12,000 tons with a hull length of 161 meters and a beam of 22 meters is an obvious sign of the level of seriousness the Chinese government is indulging to protect seas that is sees as its territorial waters. 

The patrol vessel is thought to be capable of long-range transoceanic patrols, but is expected to be deployed mainly to the East China sea region, where China has significant maritime territorial disputes with Japan and Taiwan, centered on the ownership of the Senkaku Island chain (Diaoyu Islands in Chinese) and its surrounding waters.

The CCG 2901 is armed with a 76mm gun, two 30mm autocannons and a number of smaller machine guns. It is also capable to deploy and house up to two Z-8 heavy transport helicopters for various rescue and law-enforcement duties. A number of smaller boats carried onboard also enable it to send out boarding parties or anti-piracy teams.

The CCG 2901's sister vessel of the same class, the CCG 2501 is still under construction and is expected to come into service sometime in 2016.
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more like warship already sweat.gif 12k tons pfftt...
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post May 27 2015, 11:57 PM

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there news in Russian, that russia have cancelled the mistral deal

Ship lelong lelong.. siapa nak beli

LTZ suruh rmn propose beli
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post May 28 2015, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ May 27 2015, 11:57 PM)
there news in Russian, that russia have cancelled the mistral deal

Ship lelong lelong.. siapa nak beli

LTZ suruh rmn propose beli
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lupakan dulu le kot bab2 ni....mcm takde ape2 perkembangan dah skarng ni. Jiran 3 step forwards kita 1 step back.
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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 28 2015, 12:13 AM)
lupakan dulu le kot bab2 ni....mcm takde ape2 perkembangan dah skarng ni. Jiran 3 step forwards kita 1 step back.
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While I'm all for constant improvement for the armed forces, I don't like Malaysia getting into arms races for the hell of it. Too many countries ruined themselves putting military priorities first.

If a neighbor buys something, doesn't mean you have to buy something too.
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post May 28 2015, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 28 2015, 12:26 AM)
While I'm all for constant improvement for the armed forces, I don't like Malaysia getting into arms races for the hell of it. Too many countries ruined themselves putting military priorities first.

If a neighbor buys something, doesn't mean you have to buy something too.
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it operational requirement
not just for the sake of having it

what arm race in asean? it just that a common enenmy have appear while others take steps to counter it. we pulak like ltz say move backward
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 28 2015, 12:26 AM)
While I'm all for constant improvement for the armed forces, I don't like Malaysia getting into arms races for the hell of it. Too many countries ruined themselves putting military priorities first.

If a neighbor buys something, doesn't mean you have to buy something too.
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apa lah Mindef ini

bos bos lu tak marah? satu benda pun macam tak ada. Not 1 or 2 years. For the next 5 years
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post May 28 2015, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ May 28 2015, 12:50 AM)
apa lah Mindef ini

bos bos lu tak marah? satu benda pun macam tak ada. Not 1 or 2 years. For the next 5 years
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No big ticket buys doesn't mean no buys at all. Not as if suddenly Malaysia declare 0% military budget for the next 5 years.

Also no offense, but I seriously think if PRC is serious in taking the SCS by force and US by some reason decides not to intervene, i 'd say the whole of ASEAN can't do jack to repel them.

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