i think he was at it but then came off

you can dig back the old pict when he was 17 and 18, 15% bodyfat at 120kg is no joke lol, especially he only trained for like 2 to 3 years at 18 years old

well then it's all just speculation

Don't forget the natty Jeff Sied who went Pro in the IFBB before he turned 18

This post has been edited by kshen: May 20 2015, 07:57 AM

Wow

BRB injecting steroid and test my new powerlifting total.

p/s: An example of a normal gym user who uses steroids and failed is Jason Blaha
SOS

This post has been edited by alien9: May 20 2015, 01:31 PM

i press 20kg also wan die d

shud be jason genova la

If you guys think Jason failed at juicing, watch the guy below.

I was so shocked when I see him start posing.

Skip to 8:00 .

not jason blaha

i meant this jason genova

just did my DL PR , 190kg @ 93KG, finally break the 2x BW deads

all natural with no coach yo.

Lol at his quote. You know i respect that he's a strong powerlifter and young guy. But hey, at the end of day it's up to u to train how you wanna look. So for me i train for aesthetics, symmetry and proportion. I don't want end up to be fat and skinny again.

This post has been edited by degraw1993: May 20 2015, 08:57 PM

Eat Clen. Tren hard. "Test" your limits. DBOLish your goals anavar give up all natty bro , all natty.
That protruding gut is disturbing, not to mention the proportionality of his limbs/gut

Looks like a fucking disgusting big cockroach.... even the steroids are ashamed.

I actually know him and chat with him a lot. I'm so tempted to direct him to this thread. I will be lifting with him one of these weekends.

thats awesome

Tom Mutaffis, NORTH AMERICA Strongest Man Champion under 105kg actually only break his 150kg PR log press yesterday @244lb BW...
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167564031



This post has been edited by ah_suknat: May 21 2015, 08:01 AM

Ive seen him train and he trains hard and eats well.

Just because someone lifts heavier doesnt mean they are always are on substance .

Maybe you didn't train hard enough? or maybe you just dont know how to train.



U can always ask zarol to coach you if you need guidance.
he is a great coach and a nice person

This post has been edited by kellyisevil: Jun 3 2015, 10:22 PM

ofcourse, everyone can ass-ume, no body knows the truth until its black and white tested.

I was in pro strongman competition last month, Sabah strongman competition is very competitive. ( http://orangkuat.caserosabah.com/home/ ) needless to say I am the last few places among the monters that I compete with. they are experienced(this is my first pro), they have their own equipments( I only train in the gym), they train hard ( I train hard, too), and they are on juiced( I am natural), and that 19 years old boy is as strong as those monsters.

and just because you train hard and eats well, doesnt mean you are not on juice. if everyone can be motherfarking strong with just train hard and eat well, the world will be a better place. heck even football players are on juice.

i train hard and i eat well . I am stronger than most guys, but i am not on juice.

Have u ever thought maybe you lack certain training or skills that could have resulted for your lost?

stronger than most guys is easy, I am too can confidently say I am stronger than most guys, I am probably the third strongest guy in my gym after the owner of the gym who is on juice and that one cop who is freking huge, because most guys are weak. but can you be that 1% strongest guy with just train hard and eat well and compete with juice guys? if you can, you are probably genetically strong.

are you in any competitive stngth sport?

Lol. Why would u compete yourself with the people in the gym. Being on juice really doesn't do much unless u eat well n train eell.

I know many out there are using juice. But that doesnt stop me from training hard n eating well.

i choose to believe and treat everyone as natural unless they say otherwise.

No i am not but i might join mpa 😂😂