The 960 should be fine , there will be a slight bottleneck but not much, I'm more concern with ram since I noticed most triple A titles are starting to use up more than 3GB. For example GTA V can chew up to 5GB after some playing time. You can try buying from cyntrixtech since they're having their warehouse sales right now https://www.facebook.com/cyntrixtech/photos...?type=1&theater

Hmm , i was about to suggest a 970 but then i saw the ram. Add another stick of 4GB and get the 960. Saw a demo a while back that a single gtx 980 can run witcher 3 at very good frame rates. If its true then with the 960, dial down some of the settings and it should be very playable. Again You can try buying from cyntrixtech since they're having their warehouse sales right now https://www.facebook.com/cyntrixtech/photos...?type=1&theater

sifu2.. need rig suggestion for budget 2.5k-3k
everything needed including monitor.. dont too big lar,just normal gaming like LoL ,dota2 those..
make mouse and keyboard out from the list and see what I can get

Hmm some of my friends said that the 960 isn't as good for price/perf ratio. So currently I'm pretty bumped. What to choose.

Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 676.28
Asrock B85M-HDS - RM 253.34
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 222.60
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 189.74
Aerocool V3X Advance - RM 104.94
Samsung S20C300FY monitor - RM 333.90

Leadtek GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Hurricane - RM 899
Seasonic S12II EVO 520W - RM 279

Total: RM 2958.8 (GPU and PSU is from Viewnet, others are from Jayacom with GST)

If comparing to same priced AMD GPU like R9 280/280X, GTX960 is definitely weaker than it but in order to run the former card, you need a better PSU due to its power hunger status. So if you want to keep your current PSU, GTX960 is your best choice.

in terms of raw performance , it's a faster version of 760 which is not a bad thing at all since nvidia are concentrating more on their maxwell card than the previous gen. So optimization will be better than the 760. And yeah like terence said the power and temp will be very efficient. Unless you're willing to purchase 2nd hand card on which you can fairly easily find a used gtx 770 or r9 290 for below rm1k

Ahh I see, well I guess I'll go browse the GS and search for 2nd hand 760. It seems like a 450watt system can handle it. Plus it's cheap already

thanks for the tip bro.. would go check out cyntrixtech.. the zotac cards seems quite value

currently im using 2x kingston 2gb ram 1333.. i should stick back to another 2 pieces of same ram? what do you reckon?

Just stick another piece of normal 4GB ram is enuf.

I'm a little confused.

I compared the GTX 960 and R7 265, going at RM749 on sale (originally at RM800+) and RM 564.98 respectively.

However, comparing the R7 265 and GTX 960, the R7 265 delivers much more better performance.

It confuses me on how something that costs RM200 more could be out performed by something much cheaper.

Can someone explain to me why?

It's new product vs old product, and AMD had a price slash after 9xx series is out last year which made the r7 even cheaper than before.

Same thing is probably going to happen soon on nvidia side after new AMD 3xx series is out in a couple of weeks/months.

So, in long term short, is the R7 265 more worth of a bang for the buck compared to the GTX750Ti or GTX960?

Yes as for now, but nvidia tends to have better driver support than AMD though

That's the problem.

AMD has better performance cards but the software experience and driver support is won by nVidia.

In some way, yes.

People being anticipating 760's successor for a long time (760 launched back in mid of 2013 while 960 only come out after almost 1.5 years).

Somemore, the situation further agitated by the impressive performance and price of 970, people are expecting 960 to be on par or better than 770 while maintaining the advantages of Maxwell architecture.

But Nvidia decided to smash everyone's dream and make it an average performance card improved (but barely better in performance) from its predecessor. The situation is similar to GTX750TI vs GTX 650TI Boost. On paper it is about a half cut of GTX970, fitted with practically no headroom for be futureproof (128bit memory and 2GB GDDR5).



So TL;DR, 960 is not a card for bang for buckness.

This post has been edited by Human10: May 16 2015, 07:55 AM

Mind you the Nvidia recommended requirement is 500W (though I have to admit they usually put in lots of headroom).

Technically speaking, a proper and decent 450W will have no problem powering it. But the main problem here is there isn't much solid or decent 450W around. It will be risky to power it up in a cap ayam 450W.

Here's the PSU which is by same OEM as your PSU. Their design and power distribution probably hadn't changed much.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Ant...y-Review/1487/7

Since the PSU is dual rail, each rail is capable of delivering up to about 15A of current or 180W of power.

Nvidia's official specs stated that reference GTX760 consume max 170W, and here a test on it proved it to be somewhere above 160W. Now you only left with under 20W of headroom.

But what's more interesting is non-reference GTX760, they always come factory overclocked and it will change the maximum power consumption of it.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/...GTX_760/25.html

Here we can see several GTX760 breached the 180W mark.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX..._Gaming/22.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GeF..._Gaming/25.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyt...orce_OC/25.html

This post has been edited by Human10: May 16 2015, 08:15 AM

Nah, 960 is a tier higher than 265 for sure (at least 20% different). AMD's same tier GPU is 280/285.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX..._Gaming/29.html

This post has been edited by Human10: May 16 2015, 07:54 AM

Well I don't think I need to worry about it since it's the Hexa 450+ series here. Good enough?

Good enough for a 450W.

But it is still a 450W (360W to be precise IINM), running 760 on it is like running at the edge of a cliff. You can run, but any mistake and you fall off the cliff.

Max current for rail1 - 17A (204W)
http://www.fsplifestyle.com/documents/h2.pdf

Another thing I didn't factor in my post above is PSU can degrade over time, hence further gapping between the power requirement and capacity.

This post has been edited by Human10: May 16 2015, 01:32 PM

Damn it. Ahh well, I guess should just put a 750 in this home rig and build a gaming rig after SPM.

hi guys i got a quote for the below specs at 2.3k (include gst)

CPU I5 4590
Mobo Asrock H97M Pro4
Ram Corsair 8gb value
SSD Kingston V300 240gb
Casing Bitfenix Prodigy M
PSU CX600M (80+ Bronze)

rig is currently for work purpose,
but later will fit in 970 gc if i have enough budget
(maybe got luck in garage sales section )

is the spec ok?
other suggestion is most welcome
especially for mobo and psu