Airbags inflate and then deflate almost immediately. It does not form a obstructive object as seen in Hollywood which you have to hack your way out of an airbag. In this case the side airbags aren't going to stop you from getting flung out.

If Malaysian think of safety all the time, then no need to have 15-20 fatalities everyday. Ignoring seat belts are tradition.

But from inflate till deflate it will take few seconds. And this time will be enough to prevent people from flying out.
Unless the pajero also join the group and race with the myvis.

It makes sense if the lady and the baby were sat as back passengers, in which most passengers at the back won't buckle up, typical of Malaysians... And there's no annoying sound for back seat belts unfastened...?

As for the guy...

This post has been edited by Eithanius: May 7 2015, 03:10 PM

From inflation to deflation is less than a second. The airbag is only made to take one hit and actually deflates as you are hitting it so that it does not crush your face.

Usually back seat does not have sensor.
Again, we need to make wearing seat belt as habit.

I think should be 1-2 seconds.
Still, let police and jpj do the job.
Unless the pajero had 2 impacts, 1st impact they are still inside, airbag deployed follow by 2nd impact that throw them out.
If they were thrown out on 1st impact, obviously they never wear seat belt. As no matter how useless the 3 point seat belt is, it will still give some restrictions.

This post has been edited by supersound: May 7 2015, 03:22 PM

Of course you can't eliminate death completely. You can reduce the risk. Every bit you do to reduce risk helps. Now if you want to call the remaining risk fate... fine. I'd call it remaining risk, but fate will work. But at least do all to reduce the risk. After all people live in gated condos and do all sorts of stuff to protect themselves, but then when sitting in a car they can't put on their seatbelts? That's my main issue with fate. It gives away all responsibilities. People who believe in fate tend to avoid doing things they don't want to, in order to protect themselves. Seen that many times. "Oh, I don't need a safe car, if I die it is fate." But at the same time they'll take some food supplement to prolong their life, because they want to, and there it's not fate. So fate is just an excuse to be lazy, to be stingy, ...

@sleepwalker: It's less likely to fall out of the car though with a seatbelt. Even in a rollover. And considering that everyone left the car...? But we'll have to wait for the result of the investigations to know for sure... I really hope that if they find that they didn't wear the seatbelts the police, government and press makes sure to mention that. And that they would probably be still alive had they worn the seatbelt. Maybe it will make some people wear their seatbelt in future...

@Dwango: 3 point seatbelts are a compromise between giving good protection yet convenience. We can see how people are reluctant to put on even the 3 point seatbelt (2 point is worse, as your body isn't kept back). Imagine a 4 point, 5 point, 6 point harness. It's much more restrictive, and much harder to put on. Safety technology works, just look at race cars and how they crash. They can have very violent crashes, and just get out of the car and walk away. Unfortunately that sort of technology is very cumbersome, so car makers try to protect you as good as possible without having to resort to a roll cage, 6 point seatbelts, helmets etc. Some effort is still required though.

Now... put on a seatbelt. Try to leave it. It IS possible, but it is rather difficult, especially given that when there is an accident the seatbelt will pull you towards the seat, into the seat. Escaping that is not easy. One way is when you lean back the seat a lot and crash frontally... you may slide under the seatbelt. But that's not what could have happened here.

I have seen devices to educate people on the importance of seatbelts... like, you get into a specially prepared car shell, put on the seatbelt, and then they will roll the car shell (it's like a wheel). People will stay inside. Or ones where you are on a car seat that's propelled forward and then suddenly stops. To show the importance of a seatbelt. Maybe such devices should be created in Malaysia and then toured around the country... like demonstrating it on shopping center car parks etc. Go from school to school and demonstrate it to the kids and their parents. Those who think they don't need a seatbelt can try without... so the car interior needs to be soft. And when they fail at a very slow speed maybe they realize their mistake. Clearly some very basic education needs to be done.

My last statement was not serious, I was poking fun at people believing in fate. I do believe that when you do a bit effort to reduce the risk in a car accident it helps, and I try to do that, as it is common with people in Europe. Obviously I am not invincible. Fate doesn't exist.

As for the sound the car makes... you can buy fake seatbelts to deactivate the alarm for example.

@supersound: Given how fast airbags deploy I'd say the airbag deployed first, however they may have hit the airbag while it was deploying, and in any case it won't stop you from existing the car, where you get hurt even more. The deflation happens much faster... it's not a rock solid thing... well, initially it is, but only for a couple of ms perhaps.

The Pajero Sport don't come with side nor curtain airbag. Those are not airbags, it's just interior liner falling apart.



This post has been edited by IpohLad: May 8 2015, 06:34 AM

No, you wouldn't get flung out of the car if you use the seat belt properly. They didn't use seat belts and child seat obviously.

Start from 1:19min. You can clearly see the dummy did going downward when the car is tip over at 180, but safe by the seat belt strap on it's lap



This post has been edited by IpohLad: May 8 2015, 07:52 AM

My bad, that's why Malaysia are special, we are stripped by AP to buy stripped safety cars, yet we still say it is superior

Already told this to him, but he refuse to accept it and keep on saying the normal seat belt are unsafe
For me, the normal seat belt no matter how unsafe it is, if we buckle it up, it will still safe us from flying out
At least we still can die inside our car rather than thrown out.

would you prefer to die inside a car bro? no body wants to die in a car crash, inside or outside.

airbag fully inflate under 100ms after first impact, then will rapidly deflate.

In some sense you are right.
But then on the road fatalities daily in Malaysia says that you are wrong. Malaysian like to die in road accidents

At this point I would think they have no choice but to die on the road because they drive coffins (some can even self-cremate) on crappy roads to hell...

That's why I said, attitude are more important than getting a "safe" car.

excellent vid. I dont have the source, but in US rollover accident survey, with the proper usage of seatbealts, ejection of passenger is prevented 99% of the time

Or seat belts on Pajero defective? Not the first time from Mitsubishi.

Should be Euro spec Pajero Sport which does come with side and curtain airbags. The big problem is that without seatbelts those are useless.

As to attitude matters... it does, but in a SUV without side airbags the passengers heads would be banging against the interior of the car, which can at least injure them. Still better than having a safe car but not wearing seatbelts of course.

Totally agreed on this one.