I'm a bit late in posting this but just got to know about this news today after coming back from a holiday. Apparently the writeup on Star paper on Sunday was a bit different from the online writeup here http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2015...t-Family-Death/

The writeup of the manner of accident is intriguing and raises some questions. Firstly, it was said that the speeding Myvi crashed onto the Mitsubishi Pajero Sport when the Pajero was struck on the rear when the vehicle was trying to merge into the fast lane. The sentence "when trying to merge into the fast lane" may suggest that the Pajero may be driven at moderate speeds. I was suprised that the speeding Myvi that hit the rear of the Pajero had caused the vehicle to overturn several times as reported. The crash must be pretty bad. Though the driver of the Myvi survived that crash I presume. What baffles me is how can a larger and heavier Pajero Sport overturned several times and the smaller and lighter Myvi seemed to be intact with the driver having "minor injury".

Secondly, it was reported that the crash caused the three occupants in the Pajero Sport to be thrown out from the vehicle. Presuming the seatbelts are on, how could that possibly happen? Or the crash is seriously terribly bad that the seatbelts failed to secure the occupants and snapped, causing all three to be flung out from the vehicle?

Any thoughts? Really bad news this one as the deceased had left behind two young daughters.

pajero is got higher point of gravity. Myvi got lower gravity. when crash happen, its likely myvi just bulldozer the pajero and cause it to lose balance.

Another version with graphics was posted online on FB I believe. It depicts the first MyVi from the fast lane grazed the Pajero on the middle lane (Pajero may also have switched to the fast lane close to where 1st MyVi was overtaking). Upon graze impact Pajero countered hard to left and lost control, swerving to the left-most lane where the 2nd speeding MyVi from the left crashed (probably to the left side of) the Pajero, causing it to turned turtle... The first MyVi must have ran away (or did it..?), leaving the 2nd MyVi damaged at the front... If you look at the aftermath, the rear of the Pajero looks almost intact without much impact damage.

In short, 1st MyVi grazed the right side of Pajero, then Pajero lost control and veered to the left where 2nd MyVi crashed onto the left of the Pajero...

This post has been edited by Eithanius: May 5 2015, 09:19 PM

I highly doubt the passengers wore seatbelts, which is why they died.

Basically the Myvi must have made the Pajero lose control.

Btw., you still think that safety features are not so important? Defensive driving more important, and it all depends on fate? Seatbelts and airbags could have saved the Pajero passengers. Stability control might even have prevented the car from losing control and rolling.

This post has been edited by kadajawi: May 5 2015, 09:49 PM

It was a Pajero Sport with ASTC (stability control) and 6 airbags, which were all deployed in the accident. It was T-boned at high speed by a second Myvi, which caused it to roll. The only question was, whether they wore seatbelts.

If you are not aversive to /k, there is a 95 page tered there with news and some info.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3567352

Select images from that tered. Credits to the TS



This post has been edited by dares: May 5 2015, 10:46 PM

For sure they didn't. No man will ever flung out of the vehicle that is supposed to protect him as a shell.

Some people thought they sit in a high big tough car they don't need to put on seatbelts.

If no seatbelt, airbags wont deployed right?

According to Paul's website, the Pajero Sport Euro edition (which was involved in this accident), has 6 airbags but NO Stability Control..

Some cars rely to airbag impact sensor to deploy the airbags, not all rely to seatbelt pre-tensioner and airbag impact sensor to active airbag deployment.

Myvi doesn't, so is Vios first generation.

Pajero is a very tall SUV while Myvi is much lower. Then if the SUV was hit at relatively higher speeds at an angle from the side rear then it will easily spin (just like the technique that police use to spin criminal's cars they're chasing). Then there's another speeding myvi at the other lane hitting it again presumably at another angle from the side, so no surprise that it rolled over, with or without VSC. To make matter worse there's a chance that at those wee hours, the Pajero driver might be a bit sleepy and hence swerved unexpectedly at even lower speeds resulting in a much bigger speed difference with the speeding myvis, and he was not in the proper condition to also do any sort of last ditch attempt to correct it. I know this last bit is speculation but it's not impossible too, who knows.

As for how come they're thrown out, maybe they just didn't wear seat belts? This though with thorough investigation should be able to get confirmed whether the seat belts were functioning properly but they didn't wear them, or it was faulty (but I doubt it was faulty for all 3 passengers).

Sos? I can't find it in Potan

This post has been edited by dares: May 6 2015, 01:37 AM

SOS KICAP

No mentions of ESC in the post, comments section got la

I see, I stand corrected then. I guess if it had, maybe it would've avoided the second collision....but now we'll never know.

This post has been edited by dares: May 6 2015, 01:42 AM

Seatbelts are very, very tough. So it's extremely unlikely, especially all 3 seatbelts.

I hope this incident will be made use of to make people wear seltbelts at all times. If you crash without seatbelts, even if it is the latest Volvo, you'll be dead. Seatbelts are the very basis of safety equipment, the foundation. Without a seatbelt everything else is useless.

Agreed on the seatbelts. Saw an accident a couple of years back where a motocyclist had a head on collision with a small truck. Motocyclist died due to impact and the truck driver was thrown through the front windshield. Another is a cousin of mine, had a head on impact with a tree at high speed after a drinking session, he was seriously injured but the seatbelt save his life.

actually how fast was the pajero?

link pls?

I wished I could find back the link... Saw it on the FMC FB site or its sister FMurderC FB site couple of days back... It's probably a snapshot of an illustration taken from a malay daily...

EDIT: found it...!



This post has been edited by Eithanius: May 6 2015, 03:31 PM

The death is fated. Whatever stability control that you think "might" have prevented the car from losing control. It might, it might not. But it is fated. You cannot turn back time to change fate.

I concur... Whether with ESC or not, it is the 2nd myvi which hit the Pajero on its side, causing the latter to turn turtle...