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post May 7 2015, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(Dwango @ May 5 2015, 08:29 PM)
I'm a bit late in posting this but just got to know about this news today after coming back from a holiday. Apparently the writeup on Star paper on Sunday was a bit different from the online writeup here http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2015...t-Family-Death/

The writeup of the manner of accident is intriguing and raises some questions. Firstly, it was said that the speeding Myvi crashed onto the Mitsubishi Pajero Sport when the Pajero was struck on the rear when the vehicle was trying to merge into the fast lane. The sentence "when trying to merge into the fast lane" may suggest that the Pajero may be driven at moderate speeds. I was suprised that the speeding Myvi that hit the rear of the Pajero had caused the vehicle to overturn several times as reported. The crash must be pretty bad. Though the driver of the Myvi survived that crash I presume. What baffles me is how can a larger and heavier Pajero Sport overturned several times and the smaller and lighter Myvi seemed to be intact with the driver having "minor injury".

Secondly, it was reported that the crash caused the three occupants in the Pajero Sport to be thrown out from the vehicle. Presuming the seatbelts are on, how could that possibly happen? Or the crash is seriously terribly bad that the seatbelts failed to secure the occupants and snapped, causing all three to be flung out from the vehicle?

Any thoughts? Really bad news this one as the deceased had left behind two young daughters.
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Seatbelts don't need to snap for passengers to get flung out of their vehicles, esp when it involves a roll which all the windows will shatter on the first rotation allowing the passengers to be flung out. Our standard 3 point harness is made for head on collision but offers little protection in a roll. For that you need a 4 to 5 point harness used by racing cars that straps you tightly to the seats without any leeway. There are plenty of articles on the lack of safety in our standard 3 point harness in the event of a violent roll over.
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post May 7 2015, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ May 7 2015, 12:59 PM)
The pajero has side airbags and deployed. So now the question is they fly out first or air bag deployed first?
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Airbags inflate and then deflate almost immediately. It does not form a obstructive object as seen in Hollywood which you have to hack your way out of an airbag. In this case the side airbags aren't going to stop you from getting flung out.
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post May 7 2015, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ May 7 2015, 01:38 PM)
But from inflate till deflate it will take few seconds. And this time will be enough to prevent people from flying out.
Unless the pajero also join the group and race with the myvis.
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From inflation to deflation is less than a second. The airbag is only made to take one hit and actually deflates as you are hitting it so that it does not crush your face.
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post May 9 2015, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(Dwango @ May 9 2015, 11:36 AM)
The investigation was already wrapped up by police and experts by now but there was no mention on the details of the accident other than the accused being brought to justice. Looks like the media may not be interested in publishing the details? I only read about articles implementing safety seatbelts for baby seats and a full page on The Star or News Straits Times on MIROS president Dr Wong supporting the use of safety seatbelts and overall driving ethics.

It would be surprising if the driver (deceased) in the Pajero Sport did not have his seat belt on. If it was on, whether the seatbelt had snapped through the impact. Also, there is no mention whether the wife is sitting at the front passenger seat or the back seat. I was wondering why the media did not publish these details. Does anybody have the details or report of the accident apart from the Myvi grazing the Pajero and another Myvi colliding head-on to the Pajero that caused it to overturn several times?

In the news today, saw Siti Noor Aini and Mohammad Fizal being charged at the magistrate's court with Siti covering her face with a scarf.
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Since they are charged in court, all details will be withheld as evidence until the court hearing and judgement. Only then will they be able to publish the findings otherwise it would interfere with the jury's decisions.
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post May 10 2015, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(unitron @ May 10 2015, 12:07 AM)
Someone correct me... but AFAIK Malaysia judiciary do not use the jury system.... the judge will decide.. i.e one man/woman.
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We used to have juries. Last jury case in 1994. I still used to using the words jury. Judge or jury doesn't matter. It's an on going case which they cannot publish the results of the findings until the case is over.

 

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