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post Dec 10 2019, 08:24 AM

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[quote=deadwiller,Dec 9 2019, 06:57 PM]
[quote=Fubar20,Dec 9 2019, 06:55 PM]
Any other appliances connected to that power point? Or that circuit?
Sometimes the wiring from the DB doesn't just go to that power point, maybe share with other switches.
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This I’m really not too sure. If it does share with others, what are my options? Change the CB to a 20A? There is nothing connected to that power point.
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Do not simply change the MCB to 20A.

The MCB to lighting points is normally 6A MCB. Standard looping is 6 lighting points for each loop. For the 3 pin sockets, a 20A MCB is used for every 2 x 3 pin sockets. Do note that the wire diameter for lighting and wall sockets are different sizes. If you change the 6A light MCB to 20A, you risk melting the wire insulator in the wall and possible fire. The lighting wire is not meant to carry high load.
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post Dec 30 2019, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 30 2019, 06:15 AM)
"single line fire wire" means you only need Live wire to connect
"zero line fire wire" means you need both neutral and live wire to connect

our switches got no neutral so buy the "single line fire wire" version
but if you get an electrician to pull neutral lines for you, then you can use the "zero line fire wire" version (better choice)
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Single line need 1 wire.
Zero line need 2 wires.

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post Dec 31 2019, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Dec 30 2019, 01:52 PM)
To complicate the method further, now have new single fire switch that need put this wifi power adapter between L1, no need use capacitor.
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They can call it whatever they like but I am 100% sure it is is indeed still a capacitor biggrin.gif
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post Jan 6 2020, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Jan 4 2020, 08:07 PM)
But you not worry, somebody's watching  you brows.gif
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Either you want China or the USA to monitor you smile.gif
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post Jan 8 2020, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(wailing81 @ Jan 8 2020, 12:05 PM)
if i use the 3 gang smart switch, heard some one said that the fan might can't have full speed due to insufficient power supply. is it true?
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I think this is not something specific.

The smart switch with no N has maximum total load. So, if total load cannot exceed this max. Maybe this is the reason. If the switch require N, no such restriction.
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post Jan 9 2020, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(wailing81 @ Jan 8 2020, 12:14 PM)
thanks, will get switch with N.
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Even the switch that require no N can do 1kW. The ceiling fan is not high power stuff. I bet mostly less than even 100W smile.gif

Unless the other 2 switches (assuming they are sharing same load) take more than 900W, then it may cause problem. However, I don;t think you will have 2 lighting points need 900W shocking.gif
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post Jan 9 2020, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jan 8 2020, 12:23 PM)
Probably they put the capacitor at the fan for no N switch. Like I did.  laugh.gif
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It there is problem in your case. I think not. The capacitor will just leak probably less than 10mA and should not affect your fan at all. I don't use any cap for the fan but mine is just normal touch switch. I think you don't require capacitor too perhaps.
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post Jan 9 2020, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(bllizard19 @ Jan 8 2020, 11:00 PM)

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Looks like your house is single phase on one common N line. Should have to problem to tap N anywhere.
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post Jan 9 2020, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jan 9 2020, 10:21 AM)
Nah, you are wrong here. Putting the cap at the fan side and removing it produce two different observable situations in my case.
If you are saying the caps don't affect the fan speed, maybe you should install one to test.
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hmm.gif You are right. I was looking at the fan as just resistive load, not looking from other angle. blush.gif

The fan use capacitor to provide phase lag to keep it rotating. By introducing another capacitor, the fan capacitance value changed thus making it rotate slower or not at optimum torque. So, it has nothing to do with load limitation of switch without N like I thought before laugh.gif doh.gif

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post Jan 9 2020, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(sunnyboy @ Jan 9 2020, 11:26 AM)
Bought some aqara 2 gang switch, no neutral line,  recently, yesterday I switched my normal switch to aqara's.

I connected the switch to my plaster ceiling L box led strip. To my surprise, when the switch in OFF mode, the led strip flickers, like got current passed through them ......but when ON, no problem...why is it happen? And how to solve it?
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Just need to put the by-pass capacitor provided with with.
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post Jan 9 2020, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(sunnyboy @ Jan 9 2020, 11:37 AM)
What is a by pass capacitor?
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I thought the switch usually comes with capacitor other than screws.? You need to connect the capacitor across the load to prevent the LED from flashing. I think there are diagrams or description how they are connected in this forum.


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post Jan 9 2020, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jan 9 2020, 12:32 PM)
AFAIK, Aqara switches don't use capacitors for installation.
Probably the LED strip amperage is too low?
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Not provided? shocking.gif

The LED light has very low leak current thus require capacitor to by-pass. Perhaps can buy or use from other switch that provided one. It should solve the problem.
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post Jan 9 2020, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jan 9 2020, 01:32 PM)
Add capacitor. The thing is without neutral line, the circuit cannot be totally off, it must allow a very small amount of current to pass through to power up the circuitry inside the aqara switch. That's the reason why your LED flickers, it is "partially" turned on.
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Well. The one with N also is on all the time too smile.gif The power is needed for the touch switch circuitry to operate to keep the LED either in ON or OFF state.
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post Jan 10 2020, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(sunnyboy @ Jan 9 2020, 08:45 PM)
Mind to guide me? Pls pls pls
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I thought I provided the video already on where to put the capacitor. Assume that you don't have the capacitor or not provided. You can buy one from any electronics shop. Buy the type that you see on the video, that yellow one with 2 leads. This is polyester type which has no polarity. Do not but electrolytic type with +ve and -ve polarity indicator. The value for this purpose (the one in the video) is 0.33µF. I also see (if not mistaken) 175V which is not suitable for our country. You should look for 400Vac or higher.

Put the by-pass capacitor at light point as shown in diagram

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As you can see the capacitor is across the bulb (or LED strip in your case). This should solve the problem.

Here's the link another video (embeding did not work hmm.gif )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQicRaV65zk

Capacitor can look like this also

https://si.farnell.com/multicomp-pro/mpmef4...dial/dp/3106520

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post Jan 10 2020, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(OhNooy @ Jan 10 2020, 09:49 AM)
In that case will need neutral right? My current setup is to use the capacitor given. Any issue to switch to Aqara mechanical switch with the capacitor from Broadlink installed?
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You mean you already out capacitor but the touch switch is not working properly still? Try swap the capacitor from working switch. If still not working, maybe need to try another switch. It might be faulty.
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post Jan 14 2020, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(insanenuisance @ Jan 14 2020, 07:46 AM)
Anyone can recommend a 4 gang smart switch without neutral Line ?
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You should say if you need WiFi, zigbee, etc. That way you get correct reply
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QUOTE(wailing81 @ Jan 14 2020, 04:29 PM)
If I planned to install all sonofg smart switch in my house, do I need a better router? As the WiFi might be congested. May I know which router is recommended that work right? Thanks
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Try google for say, "Best IoT routers". Most smart devices are on 2.4GHz. So, probably try to look for dual or triple band routers and for other usage like phones or laptop use 5GHz. I think of likely they are operable in 5GHz band.

Depends on your budget. So, normally the higher the price, the better the router capability like better processing power, more buffer, etc. Mesh router is good as start too.
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post Jan 14 2020, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 14 2020, 05:37 PM)
The Mesh Router provided by maxis for their fiber package gooding enough?
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Just googled and knew the brand first time laugh.gif Looks like it it Turkey brand https://airties.com/index.html. Not sure which model though.

Most problem is not hardware but just firmware.
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post Jan 16 2020, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Jan 16 2020, 11:11 AM)
Anyone here tried this smart wi-fi switch that embed into the socket switch or not?
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/32993805840.html

Our socket deep enough to fit in this module ar?
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In general (just box depth only) I believe will not fix. Enough for back of the switch and wires only. Even for sockets with USB chargers cannot fit.

Modify and make id deeper smile.gif

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post Jan 17 2020, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 17 2020, 08:49 AM)
You can create a scene for that automation sequence
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Once you are inside and close the door, you are in a dark room laugh.gif

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