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alucard89
post Nov 30 2021, 08:45 AM

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Hi guys, i got this weird issue with my water heater switch. It would randomly disconnect from wifi and i would either have to pair it again or turn on/off the breaker. (Tuya 20a)

So i replaced with zigbee switch, and just 1-2 day. The zigbee wasn’t responsive and had to turn on/off the breaker which is the same fix for the wifi.

What could be the cause of this? Internal wiring?

Btw, both the switch still work fine even after disconnected, just unable to remotely control them until i restart the switches again.

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post Nov 30 2021, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Nov 27 2021, 10:24 AM)
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I'm still getting these 2 messages Everytime I try to link my Mi Home and Yeelight to Google Home zzzz
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Maybe need to consider homeassistant this time? Got yeelight integration there 😁

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post Nov 30 2021, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(tomastan4134 @ Nov 30 2021, 02:19 PM)
Just received my tuya zigbee switches and gateway. Going to try them out later tonight.
I bought only 2 switches. Just to test them. If success.  Will order the rest of them..

Wish me luck.

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Speaking of switch
Any difference between grabbing the eu or uk type?

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Just ordered the 2 gang one also, expected next week
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post Nov 30 2021, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Nov 30 2021, 03:05 PM)
Probably that area is near a Wifi/Zigbee dead zone? How is the wifi reception there? Slow, hard to connect......etc?
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See, that’s just it
I have some zigbee motion, door sensors and a 3 gang tuya wifi switch in the same room.
All working fine except for the 20a wifi switch, even after replaced with zigbee type, still exhibits the same problem.

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post Nov 30 2021, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(Agathon55 @ Nov 30 2021, 03:21 PM)
Is the 3 gang switch and water heater switch at the same location in the room? If you're at the very edge of your wifi network then that could be why. Same thing with zigbee, if you're on the very edge, it could be why some devices are connecting and the switch isn't (plus neither of the sensors will function as a repeater).

But given that you're facing the same issue in the same rough timeline with both the wifi and zigbee switch, it's most likely a wiring issue. Double check your neutral cable especially.

Edited: If you happen to have a zigbee repeater on hand, stick one nearby and see if it helps. At least then you can rule out coverage issues.
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I suspect it could be the neutral wire, but how and what to check ya?
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post Nov 30 2021, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(tomastan4134 @ Nov 30 2021, 03:06 PM)
im not sure about the internal differences between these 2. 

but  i can say that the UK type looks bigger.  i dont think it can fit in our MY switch holder??
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It will fit fine, all the wifi/zigbee switch i installed all uk type ones. Just curious about the eu one
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post Nov 30 2021, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Nov 30 2021, 03:09 PM)
Should be fine, I got one EU wall switch I think. Fit nicely.
Just don't go buy US type, wrong voltage and size.  laugh.gif
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Haha, tu memang out
Was searching for 4 gang zigbee click type switch and he was asking if i need the eu or uk type.
Found one, but still need neutral
Another shop i ask non neutral 4 click type production is ongoing
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post Dec 1 2021, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Nov 30 2021, 03:43 PM)
Not all rooms are same and equal.
I have a room with L shape in which 3 corners have good wifi coverage.
The other corner which is at the long handle of the L have spotty wifi/Zigbee but is manageable.
And i have tested it using the Wifi Analyzer app and a Zigbee motion sensor to prove that.
So, unless you have ruled out coverage issues, I don't have an idea what could be real cause there
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Yes, I’ve ruled out coverage because the router and raspberry pi (with zigbee coordinator) is just outside my room. Full 2.4ghz and 5ghz signal also

I’ve got zigbee door sensor & motion sensor in the bathroom also (where the 20a switch is installed) and detected just fine. Right next to the 20a switch is a sonoff wifi module 2 way switch and still online (this one no neutral, using capacitor type)

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post Dec 2 2021, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Dec 1 2021, 12:08 PM)
Is your 20A Zigbee double pole?
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How to check that?
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post Dec 2 2021, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Dec 1 2021, 12:12 PM)
The zigbee 20A switch is same brand with others?  hmm.gif
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Both are tuya, but i don’t think it’s related since different system (wifi & zigbee)
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post Dec 5 2021, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(Agathon55 @ Dec 3 2021, 09:27 AM)
Do they even make double pole smart switches? I don't think I've ever seen one.

NVM, apparently most if not all the 20A smart switches are double pole. I'm just dumb. lol doh.gif
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I gave up and just reinstall back old switch + magic switcbot installed. Installed the zigbee switch for another 20a (aircon) also in same room and wifi 20a switch in another bathroom. Both still working fine and no disconnection since the past week

I suspect it could be wiring but I’m just gonna stop there and stop headache over this 😬
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post Dec 6 2021, 05:38 AM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Dec 6 2021, 12:44 AM)
This bloody thing still cost an arm and a leg, how much you got it for?
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Just the clone, no extra arms and leg potong
Paired with bt in homeassistant and good to go
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post Dec 6 2021, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Dec 6 2021, 10:38 AM)
But only switch on? How to off for your heater?
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On, off, just like switchbot
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post Dec 13 2021, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(mikeeeee @ Dec 8 2021, 11:08 PM)
Just sharing

The dimmer switch doubles up as a zigbee signal extender/repeater 😁
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I was looking at this, but the price a bit steep for dimmer and cheaper alternatives still require neutral. Ended up just changing the 1x smart bulb & use ikea sonos volume button as dimmer
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post Dec 13 2021, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(PowerGadget @ Dec 13 2021, 01:47 PM)
Thanks Agathon for your sharing, it really helped me a lot in deciding whether go for Aqara switches.

Since I am not tech savvy and thinking of going ecosystem that support Homekit, so most probably I would bite the bullet and go for Aqara switches.

There are list of items that I going to purchase. Do you have any ideas what's more to add to complete the package?

Aqara Smart Lock D100

Homepod Mini
Aqara Hub M2

Aqara Wireless Switch H1
Aqara H1 Smart Wall Switch with Neutral

Aqara Motion Sensor
Aqara Door and Window Sensor
Aqara Wireless Mini Switch
Aqara Temp and Humidity Sensor
Aqara Vibration Sensor
Aqara Water Leak Sensor

TPLINK KP303 Smart Extension Plugs

Yeelight Bulb 1S
Yeelight LED Strip + Extension

Thanks in advanced  notworthy.gif
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Sure not grabbing other aqara lock model?
Unless your door lock type matches same type

Isn’t there a tuya homebridge plugin? Allows to control tuya devices. Not sure how well it works since i don’t use homekit but at least you’ll save some money with tuya products
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post Dec 13 2021, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(PowerGadget @ Dec 13 2021, 05:55 PM)
Currently planning for renovation so might be changing the existing glass sliding door. By the way anything need to take note or caution with this door lock? Or you have better recommendation?

Yes I believe there is one and would definitely check it out and see whether able to save some bucks from doing so..
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Seems easy to setup



Just have it running on small linux machine running 24/7 (rm60 raspberry pi zero w 2) and you’re good to go

Now I’m curious if tuya smart lock are supported for this integration also since they’re not as expensive as aqara ones and comes in all door lock type.
Edit, not yet unfortunately, seems like the same case with tuya integration for homeassistant

https://github.com/tuya/tuya-homebridge/wik...8190c06532c8be2

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post Dec 14 2021, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Dec 14 2021, 01:21 PM)
This year completed my mission of converting entire house to full TUYA'ed!
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Any complaints by the missus yet
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post Dec 14 2021, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Agathon55 @ Dec 14 2021, 11:42 AM)
Yes there is, and it's actually maintained by a Tuya dev team as well. But the official Tuya integration is still fairly new and whether it supports your particular product can be a bit of a hit or miss.

The integration so far works with my wifi smart plugs (the cheap, brandless RM30 ones from Shopee), Zemismart Wifi roller blind motor, and Toush 2-gang zigbee switch (without neutral).  My door sensor doesn't show up at all and my motion sensor just works wrongly (the state doesn't reflect the actual state in the Smart Life app). Tuya's IR Blaster isn't supported at all so I had to switch to Broadlink (using a RM Pro but I've also used the RM Mini 3 as well) - used to control my AC and TV.

I guess gotta wait a while before everything is supported properly.

Still, I've got all the major devices working on HomeKit and that's 90% of what I wanted out of switching from Alexa/Google anyway. An added bonus is that Homekit doesn't need a Nabu Casa subscription (or the hassle of setting up the workaround).

Fiddling with Home Assistant can be fun. I just recently figured out that I can set up my IR commands to control my TV as scripts rather than switches so that I can ask Siri to turn the tv on/off and change inputs without having to deal with switch states.

Now just need to wait for the tuya integration to work properly with my sensors and it'll be perfect.
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Interesting, so the zigbee sensors don’t quite reflect their actual status.
So if i need to start with homekit, what’s the cheapest/basic thing i need? Like the homekit hub or somethibg

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post Dec 14 2021, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(ee7han @ Dec 14 2021, 05:07 PM)
Thanks for your advice. My house is 3 phase, so it seems this project will be more complicated than I anticipate.. would it be better to just opt for no neutral switches? (Aqara D1 and the likes..)
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Yes, less headache for you, Moes got a few switches that doesn’t require neutral/capacitor (1-3 gang)
Probably prioritise tapping/pulling neutral wire to replace >4 gang switch at home

Btw, I’m referring to click switch type ones. The touch type ones are available all the way to 4 gang.

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post Dec 14 2021, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Dec 14 2021, 02:55 PM)
Hahahaha, u got me! biggrin.gif
"*$W&#&*#! Why it turn off by itself and turn on by itself, hah?! You think this house is disneyland!" <-- already numb.
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Same bro same situation at home 😂
The only problem is when the devices not responding like it’s supposed to, that’s when you’re getting nagged lol

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