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post Jan 3 2018, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Jan 3 2018, 08:27 AM)
Guys, any of the power consumption monitor device that you would recommend?
Prefer socket type, like Sonoff S31, but UK plug, would like to monitor refrigerator power consumption.
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Those display type plug in wall socket have a short lifespan. Useless.

Already 2 set spoiled.

Not going to buy it anymore. Will try the Sonoff type which using apps. Just modify it to plug in wall socket.
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post Jan 3 2018, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 3 2018, 08:54 AM)
Those display type plug in wall socket have a short lifespan. Useless.

Already 2 set spoiled.

Not going to buy it anymore. Will try the Sonoff type which using apps. Just modify it to plug in wall socket.
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I would prefer WiFi and app type too, like Sonoff S31, but too bad it has only US plug.

Those 2 set of yours spoiled was from which manufacturer or what model?

If able to cut wire, I would definitely go for Sonoff POW, but it is my refrigerator, don't want to risk it.
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post Jan 3 2018, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 3 2018, 08:54 AM)
Those display type plug in wall socket have a short lifespan. Useless.

Already 2 set spoiled.

Not going to buy it anymore. Will try the Sonoff type which using apps. Just modify it to plug in wall socket.
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The LCD has several grade quality. Cheap one cannot stand heat and will blackened over time until you can read nothing. The car LCD can last very long. That is the difference between cheap and expensive one, though not necessarily biggrin.gif
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post Jan 3 2018, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Jan 3 2018, 08:27 AM)
Guys, any of the power consumption monitor device that you would recommend?
Prefer socket type, like Sonoff S31, but UK plug, would like to monitor refrigerator power consumption.
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Broadlink, Tplink, sonoff.

Sonoff and broadlink got daily graph.. Tplink just stat like today, past 7 days, past 30 days.. But App Tplink most clean and look professional.

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post Jan 3 2018, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Jan 3 2018, 08:58 AM)
I would prefer WiFi and app type too, like Sonoff S31, but too bad it has only US plug.

Those 2 set of yours spoiled was from which manufacturer or what model?

If able to cut wire, I would definitely go for Sonoff POW, but it is my refrigerator, don't want to risk it.
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No need cut wire la.

Use this wan --> https://www.itead.cc/sonoff-pow.html

Wire out plug and socket. Can jalan already.

All this power monitoring is made in China. Even macam macam brand stick on it.

Brought from tradezone here. Few month LCD gone. Brought another wan from UK, last longer abit. Than also LCD no more reading liau. vmad.gif


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post Jan 3 2018, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 3 2018, 09:02 AM)
The LCD has several grade quality. Cheap one cannot stand heat and will blackened over time until you can read nothing. The car LCD can last very long. That is the difference between cheap and expensive one, though not necessarily  biggrin.gif
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All this from China. Don't expect it good QC.

All using indoor. Don't tell me indoor also cannot survive.

This wan some digit cannot read. It still function. But useless if some digit cannot read. Throw away. Cost RM50+

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Than this wan suddenly whole display gone. Nothing to see. Cost RM100

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post Jan 3 2018, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 3 2018, 10:17 AM)
All this from China. Don't expect it good QC.

All using indoor. Don't tell me indoor also cannot survive.

This wan some digit cannot read. It still function. But useless if some digit cannot read. Throw away. Cost RM50+

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Than this wan suddenly whole display gone. Nothing to see. Cost RM100

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The display suddenly gone on the 2nd one most likely due to poor joint on ribbon flex cable. The LCD is normally joined to the PCBA using zebra strip or flex ribbon cable. The ribbon cable is connected through zif connector or soldered directly to the PCB using hot bar. Maybe can be fix.

Heat doesn't from the sun. It can be also from the device itself. It can just simply because of poor LCD quality.
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QUOTE(aneip @ Jan 3 2018, 09:15 AM)
Broadlink, Tplink, sonoff.

Sonoff and broadlink got daily graph.. Tplink just stat like today, past 7 days, past 30 days.. But App Tplink most clean and look professional.
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Sonoff is the cheapest.

Get this
1) Sonoff Pow for RM43.
2) extension wire RM18

Cut the extension wire and joint the sonoff. Total cost RM61.

Cheap cheap. rclxms.gif
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post Jan 3 2018, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 3 2018, 10:26 AM)
Sonoff is the cheapest.

Get this
1) Sonoff Pow for RM43.
2) extension wire RM18

Cut the extension wire and joint the sonoff. Total cost RM61.

Cheap cheap.  rclxms.gif
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Where you normally get your cheapest Sonoff products from?
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post Jan 3 2018, 10:46 AM

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I like broadlink because got daily graph with split by hour.. Sonoff only monthly graph which split by day. But the broadlink app so-so only.
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post Jan 3 2018, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Jan 3 2018, 10:35 AM)
Where you normally get your cheapest Sonoff products from?
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Aliexpress.

Banggood have the cheapest. But not sure the shipping cost.
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 3 2018, 10:24 AM)
The display suddenly gone on the 2nd one most likely due to poor joint on ribbon flex cable. The LCD is normally joined to the PCBA using zebra strip or flex ribbon cable. The ribbon cable is connected through zif connector or soldered directly to the PCB using hot bar. Maybe can be fix.

Heat doesn't from the sun. It can be also from the device itself. It can just simply because of poor LCD quality.
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Forget it. Just throw it away. Not buying this type again.


Actually now I m looking for the DC type. Want to monitor my Solar power consumption usage. Consumption is getting higher. Battery and panel can't coupe the usage when rainy day sad.gif

But mostly selling in the market is AC type.
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post Jan 3 2018, 11:27 AM

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what are the alternatives if your light switches do not come with a neutral wiring? I am in dilemma in figuring how to convert all the switches in my current home to a smart switch without any hacking..
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post Jan 3 2018, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(coo|dude @ Jan 3 2018, 11:27 AM)
what are the alternatives if your light switches do not come with a neutral wiring? I am in dilemma in figuring how to convert all the switches in my current home to a smart switch without any hacking..
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I came across Aqara smart switch, claim to able to work without neutral wire, I never use before.

https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a230r...e27b&abbucket=2


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post Jan 3 2018, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Jan 3 2018, 11:36 AM)
I came across Aqara smart switch, claim to able to work without neutral wire, I never use before.

https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a230r...e27b&abbucket=2
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Unfortunately I can't read mandarin, but yes thanks for the suggestion. And I like this switch too (still prefer the old-fashioned "clicking" switch). I will research more on this.

**update: May buy 1 to try. Unfortunately, I need switch that has 1, 2 and 3 gangs/subswitches. Aqara only has 1 and 2 gangs. Also, review stated there's no light indicator or any indicator to indicate if the switch was turned on/off. Is this true? Any other similar switches like Aqara?

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QUOTE(coo|dude @ Jan 3 2018, 11:39 AM)
Unfortunately I can't read mandarin, but yes thanks for the suggestion. And I like this switch too (still prefer the old-fashioned "clicking" switch). I will research more on this.
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This is their official site in English.
https://www.aqara.com/en/ctrl-neutral.html

I think this smart switch has to work with XiaoMi Smart Home Gateway, which the app UI is Chinese, but I think can change to English.

The Xiaomi Gateway looks like this:
https://xiaomi-mi.com/sockets-and-sensors/x...i-mi-gateway-2/

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post Jan 3 2018, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(coo|dude @ Jan 3 2018, 11:27 AM)
what are the alternatives if your light switches do not come with a neutral wiring? I am in dilemma in figuring how to convert all the switches in my current home to a smart switch without any hacking..
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There are many light switch that require no N wire from China. Most of the time it is just direct replacement to existing home light switch in Malaysia since there is no N wire to the switch. There are some having problem with the switch because it does not work properly due to certain conditions.
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post Jan 3 2018, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 3 2018, 11:51 AM)
There are many light switch that require no N wire from China. Most of the time it is just direct replacement to existing home light switch in Malaysia since there is no N wire to the switch. There are some having problem with the switch because it does not work properly due to certain conditions.
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Yup. It doesn't work properly.

Last time have 1 of this switch without N wire. Sometime the ON/OFF not respond and remote sot sot.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 3 2018, 12:00 PM)
Yup. It doesn't work properly.

Last time have 1 of this switch without N wire. Sometime the ON/OFF not respond and remote sot sot.
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Been thinking whether or not to buy for long time and still thinking laugh.gif I want to use it at:

1) Bathroom switch where wet fingers won't matter
2) Ceiling fan with remote switch. During power trip, the fan will spin at max speed once power is back on unless I switch off the switch on the wall doh.gif
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post Jan 3 2018, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 3 2018, 12:04 PM)
Been thinking whether or not to buy for long time and still thinking  laugh.gif  I want to use it at:

1) Bathroom switch where wet fingers won't matter
2) Ceiling fan with remote switch. During power trip, the fan will spin at max speed once power is back on unless I switch off the switch on the wall  doh.gif
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The switch can control the fan speed meh ?

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