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English Clubs Liverpool LYN Kop Talk v96, Happy 123rd Birthday, Liverpool!

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post Apr 22 2015, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Apr 22 2015, 06:22 PM)
Alrdy knew were screwed when they sign midtable team manager...no suprised.

Even back then we had no choice...they were talking br n martinez.
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post Apr 22 2015, 07:12 PM

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just for fun...these are all the players who were sold or left for greener pastures with teams still in the CL - reina, arbeloa, masch, alonso, torres, suarez.
dropping down to the europa league, we got - aquilani, aspas...and rafa biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sk1l @ Apr 22 2015, 05:26 PM)
u know last season Gerrard was mostly DM yet he chalked up 13 assists ....

Henderson with all his wasteful runs, headless chicken attitude he still managed a couple of goals and 8 assists.

Lucas has 0 assists too but he's a poor man's Mascherano. He has a role to play to break up plays.

What about Allen ? what is his role ?
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His role is to be invisible man whistling.gif

QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Apr 22 2015, 05:32 PM)
not if we snatch him back first.

Rafa spends a lot of money, but at least he won cups.

Heck, put a CL into that.
this stupid Brendan, used up so much, and we got what? NOTHING.
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Would love Rafe to return but i highly doubt that FSG will hired him. FSG know Rafa is not a yes man and has a history of fighting with owner. Quite a number of fan still very supportive toward Rafa. FSG will not risk bring a manager that had the fan support and will go against them, it will be a disaster for FSG. They prefer a yes man like BR.

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post Apr 22 2015, 08:29 PM

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what about FSG?

Maybe someone should initiate a FSG out like what happened to G&H?
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QUOTE(sk1l @ Apr 22 2015, 05:26 PM)
u know last season Gerrard was mostly DM yet he chalked up 13 assists ....

Henderson with all his wasteful runs, headless chicken attitude he still managed a couple of goals and 8 assists.

Lucas has 0 assists too but he's a poor man's Mascherano. He has a role to play to break up plays.

What about Allen ? what is his role ?
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Mostly enemy were marking Suarez.. laugh.gif

btw, Liverpool must buy a world-class striker... sweat.gif

QUOTE(jacckl @ Apr 22 2015, 05:50 PM)
allen vs herrera, which one you choose
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Herrera ! biggrin.gif

btw allen is just normal player..nothing to shout..
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 22 2015, 08:29 PM)
what about FSG?

Maybe someone should initiate a FSG out like what happened to G&H?
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I don't think it is a good idea at all.
FSG saved the club on the brink of financial difficulty.
Also, FSG has done a lot of good work to the club, as compared to previous period.

The slump has a lot of to do with failure in transfer dealing, if there is no top manager available, sticking with BR may the better option in worst scenario.
Hiring another midtable manager is not a good option.

No club will announce the sacking of their manager at this period of time as well as before any plan of succession has ironed out.
There is no benefit to tell media about the manager position whether he is on the brink or not.
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 22 2015, 08:29 PM)
what about FSG?

Maybe someone should initiate a FSG out like what happened to G&H?
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not happening. first they cleared the debts, turn LFC financial around and not got huge Anfield expansion project on going. I just want them to change their philosophy around only. nothing much nothing less.
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BR going mad, opened talks for immobile who has only scored 3 goals this season... and price of an amazing 17m.
only reason i can think of signing him is either balo is feeling lonely or hes resigned to losing sterling.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 22 2015, 09:01 PM)
No club will announce the sacking of their manager at this period of time as well as before any plan of succession has ironed out.
There is no benefit to tell media about the manager position whether he is on the brink or not.
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Moyes was sacked exactly 1yr ago today.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 22 2015, 10:30 PM)
BR going mad, opened talks for immobile who has only scored 3 goals this season... and price of an amazing 17m.
only reason i can think of signing him is either balo is feeling lonely or hes resigned to losing sterling.
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He wants to form Italian Strike force!!!

inb4 both of take warming the bench eating pizza
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 22 2015, 11:16 PM)
He wants to form Italian Strike force!!!

inb4 both of take warming the bench eating pizza
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both? u forgot borini ah? 3some force.
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post Apr 23 2015, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 22 2015, 10:36 PM)
Moyes was sacked exactly 1yr ago today.
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Look where they are now

Acknowledge failure as failures or history will repeat itself. Funny history channel team kenot learn from history.

Sack the King and gamble club reputation on a noob manager.

I dont car LFC got debt or not...play good football first and money will come later.


or.....money comes first and good football later

its already starting.....15-20 mil for a lovren. imagine if we wanna get a suarez.

o wait...we had him
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Apr 22 2015, 06:22 PM)
In FM, when club issues this statement, the manager will be sacked soon....... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Apr 22 2015, 10:58 AM)
can anyone name me which 7 players is a success? i can only put coutinho, sturridge, Can and maybe lallana. the likes of sakho, mignolet and toure are too inconsistent to be call a success.
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Well, it's has been put that those other players are generally still young and need to be given time to mature, even rodgers. They said wenger, fergie, mourino, ancelotti all have so much experience...


So it MAY take another 5-10 years for Rodgers to be MORE experience. Sabar rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

The hot seat at Liverpool is slowly being filled with air of disappointment. Liverpoolfc management needs to reevaluate within. That's how some of us feel. We saw thru that 'traveling medicine man' methods. Sure he somehow made FSG wet in their pants with his dossier. Maybe FSG then was still a virgin in football in general then.

You can work hard with all the commercial deals but ultimately the success on the pitch will mean more, more exposure for the corporate partners, sponsors etc. Winning trophies can be a start, winning bigger trophies away from (just) league cup will be a great start towards recovery for our club to climb back to the big clubs, literally! It's where we belong. When we lost Adidas as a partner, I knew we were heading the wrong tunnel. Adidas pointed reality to us, but we deemed the warrior/new balance money was greater. Fine, poorer marchandise quality sold to fans to make more money. I prefer Adidas marchandise quality.

Rodgers can try experiment with (so called) revolutionary tactics, in the semi final, apparently he tried with 4 different formations to try to make "Liverpool on that day work". rclxub.gif if there is any evidence in a single match for all to see "Brendan Rodgers is found out". Don't need a magnifying glass to see the faults is as large as the Pacific ocean.

Rodgers has never been able to imposed against experience managers regularly and now even lower teams seems to be able to pick up yards of space at Liverpool gameplay. doh.gif doh.gif adoi sad.gif sad.gif

The win at Newcastle beforehand was a smokescreen, Newcastle has been awful

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Football expert Guillem Balague says Rafa Benitez will not renew his contract with Napoli, but he can't see the Spaniard returning to Anfield anytime soon.

Talking on Sky Sports, Balague said:

“I don’t think Rafa is going to renew his contract with Napoli. I do think he’s waiting for a chance in England. There won’t be many available, with Man City and Newcastle the only likely clubs. I believe both of those teams would interest him. In the case of Liverpool, I still think the board feels he’s too big for them – not for the club but for the directors.

“I still think there is a little bit of fear about what he brings. In my eyes he’s a man that can improve a club and a squad. It obviously sounds like Brendan is going to stay but if one day they decide to get rid of him I would love for Rafa to go back to Liverpool.

“But with the same owners still in charge, the same owners who contacted dozens of coaches at the same time as Brendan of which Rafa wasn’t included, means they probably won’t give him a chance.”



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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Apr 23 2015, 12:38 AM)
Look where they are now

Acknowledge failure as failures or history will repeat itself. Funny history channel team kenot learn from history.

Sack the King and gamble club reputation on a noob manager.

I dont car LFC got debt or not...play good football first and money will come later.
or.....money comes first and good football later

its already starting.....15-20 mil for a lovren. imagine if we wanna get a suarez.

o wait...we had him
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Kenny's sacking was largely due to his splurging on British stars, the performance on the pitch did not justified his cause. The sacking of Comolli kinda served as a pre-cursor of things to come. Yes, he stabled the ship when he first came in, but he failed to replicate that same form in the following season, despite our good run in cup competitions.

Also, Kenny's warrior personality did not bode well with the Yanks which eventually led to his outcome. Which makes me think that there's a slim chance Rafa will be rehired. FSG had that window of opportunity in 2012 but they decided to look for Brad Pitt n Jonah Hill.

I dont think they will have it easy with Klopp either. Gone are the days where seasoned old geezers like Hiddink, Scolari n Redknapp r at the preferred list, I can see a new trend of managers emerging; dynamic, young, modern thinkers like Klinsmann, Villa Boas, Pep, Simeone, Pochettino, Klopp. (Non of them holds a British paspport btw.)

And FSG thought they have found a jewel in Wodgers....

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Football expert Guillem Balague says Rafa Benitez will not renew his contract with Napoli, but he can't see the Spaniard returning to Anfield anytime soon.

Talking on Sky Sports, Balague said:

“I don’t think Rafa is going to renew his contract with Napoli. I do think he’s waiting for a chance in England. There won’t be many available, with Man City and Newcastle the only likely clubs. I believe both of those teams would interest him. In the case of Liverpool, I still think the board feels he’s too big for them – not for the club but for the directors.

“I still think there is a little bit of fear about what he brings. In my eyes he’s a man that can improve a club and a squad. It obviously sounds like Brendan is going to stay but if one day they decide to get rid of him I would love for Rafa to go back to Liverpool.

“But with the same owners still in charge, the same owners who contacted dozens of coaches at the same time as Brendan of which Rafa wasn’t included, means they probably won’t give him a chance.”

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most of us too share the same sentiment, knowing that FSG not wanting rafa


We know that john henry too is a keen social media guy, when he flatly replied a firm 'NO' when a fellow lfc twitter fan posted a question to include rafa in the list of managers post dalglish, (review only mah, but they dont even want to evaluate)

i knew then rafa has zero chance, probably as the article above mentioned, not when the lfc directors are still smarting from what they deemed as rafa rocking lfc (turning the fans & media against the upper hierarchy of lfc even if it was the previous administrators).

dalglish removal to me was i felt it was the handling of suarez in light of the 'racism' case. I dont think the britishness buys bore dalglish ticket out (red card with the owners) but as much as it highlighted some failings (buys), it isnt as pathetic as ermmm well you know..





my theory on why the haggling of steerling contract is more of maybe perhaps the little chap just think BR isnt THAT manager to bring lfc and his career up.

as did perhaps some great explayers of ours somehow engineered out of liverpool and now winning throphies with other clubs. they love liverpool, they love the liverpool fans. but career wise, liverpool isnt steering itself upwards. sad.gif

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QUOTE(tampinmy @ Apr 23 2015, 08:42 AM)
[code]Football expert Guillem Balague says Rafa Benitez will not renew his contract with Napoli, but he can't see the Spaniard returning to Anfield anytime soon.

Talking on Sky Sports, Balague said:

“I don’t think Rafa is going to renew his contract with Napoli. I do think he’s waiting for a chance in England. There won’t be many available, with Man City and Newcastle the only likely clubs. I believe both of those teams would interest him. In the case of Liverpool, I still think the board feels he’s too big for them – not for the club but for the directors.

“I still think there is a little bit of fear about what he brings. In my eyes he’s a man that can improve a club and a squad. It obviously sounds like Brendan is going to stay but if one day they decide to get rid of him I would love for Rafa to go back to Liverpool.

“But with the same owners still in charge, the same owners who contacted dozens of coaches at the same time as Brendan of which Rafa wasn’t included, means they probably won’t give him a chance.”[/code]
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which mean under Henry, his manager will never get fired, as in forever no matter he bad the the result or the manager relegated the team??

This journalist is either a comedian or first time watch BPL i guess.
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Apr 23 2015, 11:21 AM)
which mean under Henry, his manager will never get fired, as in forever no matter he bad the the result or the manager relegated the team??

This journalist is either a comedian or first time watch BPL i guess.
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that line suggest rafa will (probably) NEVER be considered as long as they in charge (for reasons i stated in the former post)
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Rafa is the only manager that bringing the best out of Gerrard....

Rodgers the manager who keep on bringing out the worst of Gerrard..

Don't worry, Klopp got this.....It's all in the plan

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