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English Clubs Liverpool LYN Kop Talk v96, Happy 123rd Birthday, Liverpool!

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post Apr 29 2015, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Apr 29 2015, 05:39 PM)
#berdiriteguhbehindBR then!  biggrin.gif
From what I see in the FB Liverpool fan page, Malaysian one = 70% still #berdiriteguhbehindBR. As for the international one, 80% #BRout.

Even 2 of my friends still believe in BR.  doh.gif
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Many are still behind Teguh with Brendan Rodgers because they say he makes Liverpool play attractive attacking football.

They all hated rafa Benitez and probably even Jose mourino cause these managers seems to set their teams defensively (I'm keliru on this)

So these fans rather hope Rodgers stay for reasons they enjoy watching Liverpool now (lagi I keliru)
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post Apr 29 2015, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 29 2015, 09:58 PM)
Attacking football?

This year, plenty of matches being outplayed by opponent (especially against big team), and only manage to score 47 goals with none of player get more than 7 goals.
I am scratching my head for the term "attractive" football.

I don't reckon Chelsea is playing a boring football, in fact, look at Hazard's goals against MU, it is a beauty and exquisite and attractive to watch.

Liv's attractive football was last year, this year since the season started, I cannot remember many matches Liv was playing well, even in the 12 matches unbeaten run (that constantly being bragged about), some of those were riding on luck (like against Swansea, Hendo's goal), need 2 own goals to win against QPR while being outplayed almost entire match. 

I don't know what is the "enjoyment" about watching Liv plays this year.
In fact, plenty of pain and disappointment when watching.   sweat.gif
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Jose mourino had to defend his chelsea over the weekend when they said chelsea has been set up defendsively this season. Typically mourino scoffs off those detractors. (I think I read it in today or yesterday's newspaper)

Mourino couldn't care what others think, even john terry had to defend his boss team formation.

It was the exact same reasons those green eye fellas labelled on rafa' Liverpool then.

But la some really feel football is about playing Brazilian samba. All attack. Zero defend tongue.gif

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post May 1 2015, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 1 2015, 10:14 PM)
The manager bought 100 million plus of players, whether the net is how much or not doesn't matter.
Fact is 100 mil is given to be splashed.

When a manager spent 100 million and yet complaining no money was given for marquee signing, then it is the manager fault that unable to find good players in the transfer market.
The manager can sign a marquee signing of 60 million with the 100 mil war chest and still got 40 mil left for others.

Lallana, Lovren, Markovic already worth more than 60 million. 

Mind that not a single signing (except Can) of last transfer window (that worth more than 100 mil) who can be proclaimed a permanent spot of starting XI.
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Some will say la, Rafa also spend alot, a lot sweat.gif

Rafa may have some dud buys, but some of those duds were cheap and did become useful in some games. Rodgers fringe players duds is as cold as fishes from space



The ghost of Rafa's years is spooking/creeping into the hallways it seems.

Already there seems to be a campaign to "ill speak", or throw in negative PR about Rafa reign in Liverpoolfc...

http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2015/05/rafa...-a-big-mistake/

As much as I wished, I don't believe fsg will give him a chance. Klopp? Haha, I suspect man city may be far more interested in klopp than of mr rodgers. Hope you don't mind me saying brendan Rodgers I think you are still in FSG's plans, at least to continue next season.

I do believe you have already been busy preparing your alibi for this season should the review come after this season campaign ends. Probably reasons like see what u can make Liverpool achieve if u have marquee player in the mould of Suarez [cough]. Oh don't have to write that down as your one of the pointers, just copy n paste my point. I should think FSG will nod in favour of that point. sweat.gif

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post May 2 2015, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ May 2 2015, 08:28 PM)
Sacking n rehiring gonna cost alot? Apparently they werent thinking of dat when they sacked KD n sign a midtable unproven manager no???

I see pace n youth in our players. experienced manager n coach wud know wutto do....BR dont. U want to sacrifice another year to give him a chance??? After 3 years given??? And next year wuts the excuse will be???

Will still be thinking abt the cost of sacking n rehiring???

No one is thinking abt wut it will cost liverpool fc in terms of reputation???

U treasures ur money more??
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Unfortunately as roturham has mentioned, brendan will use the SAS theory as be retained as manager for Liverpool next year (and beyond)

Though I highly doubt he can (even) manage a team like Real Madrid or Barcelona. When we say tactically naive, to him and some fans is tactical masterclass.

All the 12 run of staying unbeaten is rather stroke of luck in the series fixtures of teams we played against.


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post May 2 2015, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ May 3 2015, 12:20 AM)
He didnt exactly come to a club that was doing well.Besides he doesnt have free reign on transfers.The transfer committee was set up to prevent screw ups like the downing adam debacle.
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Rodgers did say and acknowledge that he has (absolute) final say on (all) Liverpoolfc transfers. sweat.gif
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post May 3 2015, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ May 3 2015, 04:44 AM)
Clown talk crap again

Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers joked that a plane that flew over Anfield before the 2-1 win over QPR calling for his sacking was arranged by the agent of former Reds boss Rafael Benitez.
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While we cannot trust all headlines on the media, I believe Rafa has conducted himself with dignity.

Nobody in livepool at the moment seems interested in the talk of getting Rafa back. It's the ghost of us being a football force that haunts the current administrators.

My money is still Rodgers will be around for next season. sweat.gif
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post May 4 2015, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(aad_lfcfn @ May 4 2015, 09:43 AM)
A football club is not a Rome
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Some mentioned it took fergie 5 seasons to get it right, so do expect Rodgers to be given the same treatment at least.

He is British big hope, so anti BR fans is an embarrassment lor tongue.gif

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post May 5 2015, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(farisq @ May 4 2015, 04:12 PM)
Shelvey.... one of good buy by Rafa.
For me he is like rough diamond that has much potential waiting to be polished. If you watched the documentary "being liverpool" BR had high hope for him. But his game need to be controlled and disciplined which I think i BR is able to guide him. But he wanted 1st team football which the coach think he is not yet ready. Remember the game where he was involved of the score at both end of the pitch. That is ho influenced he can be... with proper guidance he can be a class player
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Shelvey was mismanaged by rodgers. Everyone knows he has potential, shelvey is a temperamental player.

If gerrard houllier had not managed Steven gerrard well, our legend Stevie may have been shipped out too in his early days.

Temperamental players aren't easy to handle. Deep inside I feel Rodgers would rather handle 'easy' players. Players whom don't give him too much trouble (like Allen type?? whistling.gif ) nice guys players are his favourite, our captain in wait Henderson comes to mind. Before anyone says but Suarez was under Rodgers..., [cough] I would be on the side who thinks/felt Suarez "engineered" his exit so that he got his wish to Barcelona.

Balo, is probably at his best behavior at Liverpool, but he is likely to be dumped at the earliest possiblity. Steerling wont be sold (yet) but personally I don't think he will get much better development under a Rodgers tactical masterclass. If he stays on at Liverpool, he won't even reach the levels & exploits of Michael Owen. I will give credit to houllier for that, (Owens best days at Liverpool)



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post May 5 2015, 10:09 PM

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James Milner, (good chance), Danny ings (high bet) and maybe kieran trippier (burnley) is to be sought by Rodgers to beef up next season.

good, good nice to know Rodgers is working hard to seal his seat, I mean secure players for reinforcements early smile.gif
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post May 9 2015, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ May 8 2015, 03:41 PM)
Honestly, after visiting Liverpool and London. For a person who earns more as much as the footballers, they will choose to stay in a place they can splash the cash and live more luxuriously, lavishly, and more like a star.

Liverpool is like Kuantan or Kota Bahru. (no offence) vs. London is like Singapore.
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Like Klang actually, Liverpool is a port city. Much of it, it's developing but like Klang, it won't have the bright lights , glitz n glamour of kl & Pj.

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post May 9 2015, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ May 9 2015, 02:27 AM)
Br factor is only afew.. main thing is the club itself have nothing to offer.. no cl, no big money, and the town also not that helpful.. plus we are so slow in transfer. How come want to compete likes mc,mu,chel...

We will always be in 2nd or 3rd fiddle for player's choice.. just like depay.. this guy has been promising almost 3season but when we going to bid after he scored 20goals then it's already too late
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We are working hard in securing transfers early!

British assemble to the fore !! sweat.gif


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Our frontline could look like this Sturridge, Ings, Origi For next season n beyond. Liverpool cool2.gif sweat.gif

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post May 9 2015, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ May 9 2015, 10:29 PM)
I'm sure a lot of world class players are willing to take a massive pay cut to play alongside Joe Allen
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That jab hurt sweat.gif


Thought it's the reality of things. Some PR good news on grounds development, the fans will just have to suck it in sweat.gif
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post May 10 2015, 01:55 AM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ May 10 2015, 01:29 AM)
Not going if Wodgers is still in charge by then.
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Rodgers is upbeat about the prospects of hiring 'many' talents that other clubs (usually not amongst the epl's top 4) that reject or out of contract.


Most of us fans appreciate what FSG has embarked on saving Liverpool. But the so- called austerity drive and the mr goddy-good-2shue golden boy has somewhat sanitized Liverpoolfc to be quite, toothless and not a major force at all, in all fronts in the footballing world.

I know, and sense Rodgers will be retained. One compelling reasons that may help Rodgers, is as much as how 'wonderfully' Man U have spent, esp on the salaries of those top top players, they appear not to distant ahead of Liverpool on the table. I'm pretty sure some BR campers will say 'see, marquee players' doesn't mean the team will be super well oiled' to help their team. And Rodgers was "unlucky" esp early part of this season. sweat.gif




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post May 10 2015, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ May 10 2015, 08:19 PM)
Tonight shall be the night that rodgers finally outsmarts mourinho...
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Maybe john terry will also return a favour to Liverpool wink.gif

After what some seen as gerrard gifting chelsea one smile.gif
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post May 10 2015, 11:50 PM

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Gerrard scores eq, maybe hendo score winner? 😊
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ May 11 2015, 02:56 AM)
Steven Gerrard on his standing ovation from Chelsea fans:
''I was more happy with the ovation from the Liverpool fans.
''Chelsea fans have shown respect for me for a couple of seconds but slaughtered me all game, so I'm not going to get drawn into wishing the Chelsea fans well - it was nice of them to turn up for once today.
''It's always nice when you get a standing ovation at a stadium, but what's important to me is the Liverpool fans and they've been with me since day one.''
On Jose Mourinho, who applauded him off, Gerrard added:
''I've got huge respect for him. He's the best manager in the world, for me. And I'd have signed for him three times if I wasn't a Liverpool fan and Liverpool weren't in my heart.
''He's the reason my head was turned a couple of times, but he understood why I couldn't do it and that's because I love Liverpool Football Club.''
Asked if he ever thinks what might have been had he joined a Mourinho team, Gerrard concluded:
''I did at the time, but I always said, when I sat down with my dad and brother, that if I win a couple of trophies at Liverpool it'll mean more than 10 at Chelsea or Inter Milan or Real Madrid.
''It always means more when you win for your people"
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Errr, bukan British punya Pep Rodgers guardiola ? sweat.gif

Also, semua kata jose suka park bus, bukankah tactic tiki takda > parking bus ? ? whistling.gif

Come on la, if not kononny people say you (gerrard) are not "real" Liverpool fan, if you don't support current LFC manager. How?? wink.gif




Of course, speaking in a jest about gerrard's admiration of Jose, but the fact it goes to thought, everyone is entitled to an opinion, and if that being a (little) critical of the hot seat of Liverpool FC, means we, fans of Liverpoolfc wishes n hope for continued success(es).

1) We are asked to be have patience of Brendan Rodgers, we are asked not to be overly critical of his tactics. He is learning the ropes, and given all the managers above Liverpool have tons of experience.

2) We are asked to be sympathetic of Rodgers transfers buys as far. Supposely it's the Liverpoolfc transfers committee fault. Not Rodgers fault (at all).

3) We are told he has the merits to bring livepool to the top, getting 2nd place (last season), almost winning the league (title), shows he is British best bet (for the future)

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No1) he Rodgers, possibly has 'best intentions' to school Liverpoolfc back to the old Liverpool of tiki taka, playing the 80s way. Well it was Dalglish who successfully implemented it back then and the 2nd coming, of his return as manager showed he still has it. We went back to some of those old tactics and it seemed to delight plenty of Liverpool fans. But, it was also evident those formations lacked complete penetration against successful teams, the big clubs who made transitions to adopt modern and disciplined approaches in their game. It is of no coincidence, why teams, big teams started winning trophies.

I'm suggesting Liverpool cannot expect to be successful (future) IF they hope to play that way. Expecting players to just play 110% for when the manager himself is unable to utilise strengths. There are many instances were Rodgers failed in 3 seasons as far.

No2) "transfer committee" as in its name is, let's not complicate the name, the designation of the committee. The manager IS the general (capacity) to decide what type, what players he wants. It is his task to get Liverpool to be successful. The transfer committee will do what's necessary to get the player. Negotiate with the agents/players representative. It's like HR, a list is then given to Rodgers and he has the final say who gets in. It's that simple. To absolve Rodgers of any blame, it's just a (carefully) crafted PR excercise to take heat of Rodgers of his woeful judgement on the kinda players whom he thinks fits into his new Liverpool. The long list of players are duds under Rodgers tenure itself tells the story. "transfer committee" fault, right. Always blame HR then.

No3) yes, everyone should be given a chance. Even Rodgers, but let's not always be blinded the fact there are managers who probably are far more capable than of Rodgers. He (Rodgers) is inexperience, shoved to the seat when he hasn't successfully implemented a formula, a formation to win trophies. But we all know Rodgers is portrayed as a "team player" with the management, and for that alone too, he will be at bukit Jalil stadium with senoir Liverpool team vs malaysian team, and for the next season too.

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post May 11 2015, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ May 11 2015, 09:50 PM)
pls lose the remaining games. get BR sacked. thank you. will be a sweet ending to this season.
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Dream on, there are reports that despite Liverpool finishing 5th, there are those who are pointing out the points is more than of what Rafa's Liverpool in a couple of seasons.

And please remember that amazing turnaround run of unbeaten 12 games. It something to be remembered and noted lfc recorded history sweat.gif

Gerrard asked FSG to loosen their purse (more) to get the star players sweat.gif

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post May 11 2015, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(larrybenson15 @ May 11 2015, 11:36 PM)
How many star player we been link every transfer market during BR... Problem is can he sign any of them?
From the record, star player he signed last season is Balo, Markovic, Origi, Lambert haha... Not to forget lovren
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Blame transfer committee ok wub.gif
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post May 11 2015, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 11 2015, 11:23 PM)
those ppl pointing out the points are blind ah?
currently LFC have 62 points.
the only season rafa got less than 62 points was when he won CL  whistling.gif
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If 62 + 6 more then? sweat.gif

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post May 11 2015, 11:06 PM

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Almost fell off my chair

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/pitchs...-125314951.html

Right IF,,

But then, wasn't it IF LFC previous owners had backed our past manager instead of having him to sell before he could reinforce.

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