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post Nov 5 2017, 11:38 PM

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Costa out for Mandzukic...

i'd expect Dybala gonna go out bcoz he's probably one of the worst performer tonight
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post Nov 5 2017, 11:50 PM

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Bentancur...what a fighter on the pitch
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post Nov 5 2017, 11:55 PM

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hard fought win. Not gonna say imma satisfied with the team, but with that kind of performance, Barca gonna kill us for sure

imagined Benevento getting their 1st point of the season in our own backyard...how embarrassing was that? bcoz that's how close this match was
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QUOTE(noir7559 @ Nov 5 2017, 11:55 PM)
hard fought win. Not gonna say imma satisfied with the team, but with that kind of performance, Barca gonna kill us for sure

imagined Benevento getting their 1st point of the season in our own backyard...how embarrassing was that? bcoz that's how close this match was
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The game was close indeed. We really should've tried to score more goals to secure the win. It felt like we were out of ideas at times.

I didn't realise Benevento are on zero points...that really was a close one man.
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post Nov 6 2017, 09:51 AM

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post Nov 6 2017, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(McF7y @ Nov 6 2017, 12:02 AM)
The game was close indeed. We really should've tried to score more goals to secure the win. It felt like we were out of ideas at times.

I didn't realise Benevento are on zero points...that really was a close one man.
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IMO the best performer last night was De Sciglio. Solid from start to finish. Matuidi was poor in the 1st half but he came back better in the 2nd with an assist & his usual tireless run all over the mid.
Higuain is like Trezegoal. Rarely sees him in the match but he just need 1-2 chances to capitalize. Cuadrado was okay-average despite the goal. Costa & Sandro bossing on the left. Chiellini, as usual,
a warrior. With bandages head & such

Supersub : Bentancur. He did more in 5 minutes than what Dybala did in the entire match

QUOTE(Deani_77 @ Nov 6 2017, 09:51 AM)
well, what can we expect from a parasite of a human being? just asked what Barca or Sevilla fans felt about him...or probably City fans, considering he rejected their
big paycheck for an even bigger paycheck with PSG. And it wouldn't surprised me if he said the same regarding PSG in 2-3 years time
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post Nov 6 2017, 11:25 AM

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Dani "Parasite" Alves is not even deserved to be discussed here, he came to Juve simply to win and add to his collection of trophies and not for any passion for the club. He + Zlatan should join Malaysian league next to add to their trophies smile.gif both of them for me is the "machinery" of the game.

Now back to the Benevento game, again we showed lacked of killer instinct as well as to much respect to the opponent - the same showed against Lazio and Sporting. Pipita & La Joya should have been rested, Berna + Bentacur should have started the game. Il Principino & Matuidi have similar game so they did not complement each other very well - Il Principino looks not fully fit yet. I still feel we need a young/dynamic CB & RB. Alternatively it would good for Cuordado to start at RB & Berna to start at right wing.
The game yesterday show how Alegri was furious with all the small mistake juve made - if this against a batter site we should have been punished. Last season Juve start fast and slows down, this season the other way round.


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QUOTE(govindrk @ Nov 6 2017, 11:25 AM)
Dani "Parasite" Alves is not even deserved to be discussed here, he came to Juve simply to win and add to his collection of trophies and not for any passion for the club. He + Zlatan should join Malaysian league next to add to their trophies smile.gif both of them for me is the "machinery" of the game.

Now back to the Benevento game, again we showed lacked of killer instinct as well as to much respect to the opponent -  the same showed against Lazio and Sporting. Pipita & La Joya should have been rested, Berna + Bentacur should have started the game. Il Principino & Matuidi have similar game so they did not complement each other very well - Il Principino looks not fully fit yet. I still feel we need a young/dynamic CB & RB. Alternatively it would good for Cuordado to start at RB & Berna to start at right wing.
The game yesterday show how Alegri was furious with all the small mistake juve made - if this against a batter site we should have been punished. Last season Juve start fast and slows down, this season the other way round.
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i'd lost count of how many times Juve losing the ball cheaply. Esp from Dybala dribbles & Matuidi misplace passes. Alex Sandro also quite a weak link in the 1st half but he did
well to recover

Benevento didn't even step foot on Juve D-box for the majority of the game but they scored one and made life difficult for Juve

hence why i said, if we did like this against Barca, its not the matter of whether we gonna beat em or not, but whether we gonna SURVIVE against em
in our backyard
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post Nov 6 2017, 01:27 PM

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Barca in "full" mode will easily teach us a tough home lesson, a back three is Juve's best way to neutralise barca, our wing back (sandro & cuard) crosses will cause barca issue as their defence has weak ariel ability...if we play back four then we're inviting danger sad.gif
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It was a difficult match vs Benevento, but I think Juve simply suffers from choking at the final third. Benevento simply put 8-9 men in the penalty box.

Then the wingbacks and wingers don't perform well, with very littlequality crosses. Dybala & Higuain got surrounded quickly, short passes in the danger areas cannot be executed due to too many Benevento players in the box. No long range strikes. No Good cross. Alex Sandro did not connect well with Costa, same as Cuadrado/De Sciglio.

They just park the bus. And Juve cannot unlock them until they are pretty much tired tongue.gif. There is not much creativity on Juve side too. Marchisio & Matuidi seems to be just ball winners but thats all.

Anyway that is now how Barca play. I expect much more fluid & entertaining game vs Barca.
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QUOTE(noir7559 @ Nov 6 2017, 11:01 AM)
IMO the best performer last night was De Sciglio. Solid from start to finish. Matuidi was poor in the 1st half but he came back better in the 2nd with an assist & his usual tireless run all over the mid.
Higuain is like Trezegoal. Rarely sees him in the match but he just need 1-2 chances to capitalize. Cuadrado was okay-average despite the goal. Costa & Sandro bossing on the left. Chiellini, as usual,
a warrior. With bandages head & such

Supersub : Bentancur. He did more in 5 minutes than what Dybala did in the entire match
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Yea, I'm not sure what happened to Dybala in the last month and a half. Really feels like a shadow of his blistering start at the beginning of the season. I won't blame the guy though, I mean...players go through these peaks and troughs all the time. Remember Alex and his dip in form during Capello's reign. I remember one game he came on as a sub and Capello for some reason wasn't pleased and subbed him off. I think the fans went crazy, but Alex took it like a man.

Fully agreed on Bentancur, that guy was truly a supersub.

QUOTE(noir7559 @ Nov 6 2017, 11:01 AM)
well, what can we expect from a parasite of a human being? just asked what Barca or Sevilla fans felt about him...or probably City fans, considering he rejected their
big paycheck for an even bigger paycheck with PSG. And it wouldn't surprised me if he said the same regarding PSG in 2-3 years time
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Hahaha, yea I read that article a few days back. At first, it felt like a stab in the back but then I realised he was one of those 'easy come, easy go' type players. So I wish him all the best wherever he's headed. Juve have moved on.
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post Nov 6 2017, 02:33 PM

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anyway, is it just me or Higuain's goal last night kinda similar with Trez goal vs Real Madrid back in UCL 2003 semi final?

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QUOTE(noir7559 @ Nov 6 2017, 02:33 PM)
anyway, is it just me or Higuain's goal last night kinda similar with Trez goal vs Real Madrid back in UCL 2003 semi final?
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I haven't had a chance to compare the goals...but it's probably due to the Argentine connection brows.gif
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As Pirlo leaves competitive football, I hope that Juve bring him back in any capacity that can help the club. Our young team can learn so much from the maestro.

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QUOTE(McF7y @ Nov 8 2017, 12:31 PM)
As Pirlo leaves competitive football, I hope that Juve bring him back in any capacity that can help the club. Our young team can learn so much from the maestro.

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Wondering why they didn't bring in ADP to the management team also.
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QUOTE(Deani_77 @ Nov 8 2017, 07:05 PM)
Wondering why they didn't bring in ADP to the management team also.
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I know right?

As far as I know, we already have Nedved and Trezegol in the management team.

Alex should be there too, I think.
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post Nov 9 2017, 10:39 AM

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On this day, in 1974, one of Juve's legends came to the world.

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post Nov 14 2017, 08:59 AM

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failure to qualify for WC. How low can Buffon, Bazagli, Chiellini and Bonucci go... first the UCL loss, now missing out on the WC

Giampiero Ventura sucks donkey balls but I cant help but the have the feeling that our BBBC kind of have a loser / runner up mentality or fate. Buffon while a legend I think is too soft and nice as a captain. His is a kind and caring type of influence. While this type of leadership willl serve well in a company, I am not sure it will work with a bunch of 20 year olds. With Buffon as a captain, the following have happened:

- Knocked out in the group stage of WC2010 in a group consisting of New Zealand
- Lost Euro 2012 final
- Knocked out in the group stage of the WC2014
- Lost UCL 2015 final
- Lost UCL 2017 final
- Failed to qualify for 2018 WC

Now I am not not doubting his quality, his legend but I cant help but think he is too soft as a captain. He is always smiling and praising the opponents. Opponents respect him but do not fear him and everyone knows that if you or the team you captained strike fear in an opponent even before a ball is kicked, you would have won 30 to 40% of the battle already. Maybe it is Juve's lo stile Juve. Mr Gentleman. It might work in the 60s 70s Agnelli eras but football have evolved. ITalian football, Allegri, all italian clubs need to change this mindset, marketing, their approach to football all together. If Italy still wishes to pride themselves of being a defensive nation, then they really should look into their youth and start producing the next series of Nesta, Cannavarro instead of a Davide Astori. Heck even our BBC is strong as a unit but individually are far from being a Nesta Cannavarro standard. Its either you go ultra defensive or start producing ultra talented midfielders and attackers. While Belotti, Insigne, Verratti boast talent they are not of WC standard. Italian football is really in its darkest age. Our young defenders are talented but not WC, our mid and att are talented and but not WC. Our old guard boasts huge experience but is fading fast and even in their prime they were never truly world class unless playing as BBBC unit. Italy is currently neither here nor there. Even England seem to get their act together now winning the WC U17 and U20 WCs. They will be a huge huge threat in the coming years along side Argentina, Brazil, France, Belgium, Spain and Germany doh.gif

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post Nov 14 2017, 09:14 AM

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Oh my GOD. I can't believe this, seriously. That new jersey was so dope!

Somebody gonna get a hurt, real bad. That's for sure.
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post Nov 14 2017, 11:31 AM

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wow...i just couldn't process this feeling for a moment..

has been watching International Tourney since World Cup 1998 & Euro 2000, every then & now Italy always made it to the said tournament

now, its a kind of strange & sad feeling at the same time

but, seeing Gigi shed tears gave an even sadder feeling..

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