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 Calisthenic Body Weight Workout, Anybody here do calisthenic training?

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joker_jr
post Dec 1 2015, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(andykok @ Dec 1 2015, 08:32 AM)
u r so strong bro,4 months can achieve 12reps.  i m also working on it~ but can only manage to do 6 per set~
25reps? R u serious.... haha

How many sets do u think i should do ? Or i just do my max rep ?
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25 reps per set are still normal compare to the suggestion from an article about crossfit i read before on bb.com, 100 reps per set

Just do the max reps and try until your overvcome the limits.
Actualy i never set the limit, 12 reps perset is my average, sometimes less and sometimes more, i just immitate what the crossfit guys do, do it until vomit( literally).
Sorry if i sound like bragging myself out.
Try search and watch youtube video from athleanx, how to do more pull ups.
Currently on mobile, cannot link the video...
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post Dec 1 2015, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(joker_jr @ Nov 30 2015, 11:18 PM)
12 reps per set in perfect form possible ( not using body or legs momentum and my chin over the bar ).  after that start to run (3 - 7 km), rest for a while and re do for second set until failure.
Just like i mentioned before, my target is 25 reps perset after a year. dunno achievable  or not. life's getting busier.  already 4 months in this body weight training things.
its not that i exercises everyday btw. 3 or 4 times per week and sometimes less.
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If you really must do endurance training together with strength training on the same day, it's better to do your runs after your strength training and not before or in between sets. Keep that energy and max out on strength training.
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post Dec 1 2015, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(joker_jr @ Dec 1 2015, 09:26 AM)
25 reps per set are still normal compare to  the suggestion from an article about crossfit i read before on bb.com, 100 reps per set

Just do the max reps and try until your overvcome the limits.
Actualy i never set the limit,  12 reps perset is my average, sometimes less and sometimes more, i just immitate what the crossfit guys do, do it until vomit( literally).
Sorry if i sound like bragging myself out.
Try search and watch youtube video from athleanx,  how to do more pull ups.
Currently on mobile, cannot link the video...
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shocking.gif but to me , 25reps is quite hard to achieve, have to take few yrs to reach there ~
hahaha
currently my total reps is only 30 reps ... 5 sets x 6

i got saw his pull up video before , but i not so understand how to engage my back muscle so that i can do more pull up sweat.gif

btw,i find jordon yeoh video also quite informative to watch .

good luck bro, hope u achieve ur goal.


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post Dec 2 2015, 09:52 AM

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I don't do crossfit so i'm not sure about this but i hear that people who do crossfit pull ups are different than normal pull ups. From what i hear crossfit pull ups are done with kips utilize momentum to help pull yourself up as compared to normal pull ups. True?
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post Dec 8 2015, 10:41 PM

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Just skimmed through the thread so forgive me if the info is somewhere in there.

New to PJ(Sea Park area) and looking for a group to do bodyweight exercise with. I finish work late so joining a gym is a waste of money.

Been doing alone at home but it's boring. Doing in a park at night alone can be dangerous.

So post here or PM me of anyone is interested to train together or if there's a group I can join.
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post Dec 9 2015, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Nex @ Dec 8 2015, 10:41 PM)
Just skimmed through the thread so forgive me if the info is somewhere in there.

New to PJ(Sea Park area) and looking for a group to do bodyweight exercise with. I finish work late so joining a gym is a waste of money.

Been doing alone at home but it's boring. Doing in a park at night alone can be dangerous.

So post here or PM me of anyone is interested to train together or if there's a group I can join.
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Seapark area hmm.gif ... isn't there a huge park there with the green looking lake? Always see it from the lrt.
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QUOTE(dharmabums @ Dec 9 2015, 11:19 AM)
Seapark area  hmm.gif ... isn't there a huge park there with the green looking lake? Always see it from the lrt.
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Yes I've been to that park around the lake. Didn't see any flat area big enough to do workout. Also the area's not lit up at night.

Anyway I'm looking for people to train together, not training area.

I just found out there's a covered basketball court near Paramount LRT station, Have yet to check if it's lit up at night.
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post Dec 18 2015, 10:26 AM

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Doing muscle up again.


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post Dec 18 2015, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(meisterlim @ Dec 18 2015, 10:26 AM)
Doing muscle up again.


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Damn that hamstring flexibility. I cant even pistol squats due to lack of hamstring flexibility despite strecthing for 7 months now.
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post Dec 21 2015, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Dec 18 2015, 11:49 AM)
Damn that hamstring flexibility. I cant even pistol squats due to lack of hamstring flexibility despite strecthing for 7 months now.
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tak faham
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post Dec 21 2015, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(meisterlim @ Dec 21 2015, 10:58 AM)
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obviously he likes to troll here so im not even surprised
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post Dec 22 2015, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(meisterlim @ Dec 21 2015, 10:58 AM)
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The initial part where you do a hanging leg raise to get the backwards kick. I only can raise my legs like 60 deg

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post Dec 22 2015, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Dec 22 2015, 12:23 AM)
The initial part where you do a hanging leg raise to get the backwards kick. I only can raise my legs like 60 deg
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Hahaha

Then u should train hard to be able to raise ur legs like 90 deg instead of 60 deg only ~




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post Dec 22 2015, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(andykok @ Dec 22 2015, 08:17 AM)
Hahaha

Then u should train hard to be able to raise ur legs like 90 deg instead of 60 deg only  ~
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See, the problem is I can't "train" this. My hamstring locks up at around 60 Degree. I stretch how much also it like doesn't improve beyond this 60ish degree.
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QUOTE(Armesh @ Dec 22 2015, 11:58 AM)
See, the problem is I can't "train" this. My hamstring locks up at around 60 Degree. I stretch how much also it like doesn't improve beyond this 60ish degree.
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since nothing is impossible, so u might as well try to overcome ur weakness ~ icon_idea.gif
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Do we need to workout till failure?

What is the way to do it?

Work to failure every set?

Failure at last set?


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post Feb 3 2016, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Feb 2 2016, 09:51 PM)
Do we need to workout till failure?

What is the way to do it?

Work to failure every set?

Failure at last set?
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It's up to you if you want to go all out with your workout however keep in mind a couple things; form and safety.

Form: You will get good gains with good form but if you're forcing yourself just to complete that last rep in really bad form then don't. It just breeds as a bad habit; eventually you'll think that it's ok to do a move with bad form.

Safety: In calisthenics there are many advance moves that requires a lot of strength to perform, you do not want to be in mid motion when performing these moves only for your limbs to fail. Imagine you're doing an handstand push up and your arms give out cause you're out of energy... you'll come crashing down on your head and you don't want that.

Another thing that you may want to consider is your level conditioning and the amount of rest you're getting. Not giving yourself time to recuperate only builds up wear and tear which eventually leads to injury. If you go all out and you're still sore during your next workout ease off a bit.

PS: These are just generic advice. If you're doing a more specific training regime like skill training. NEVER, EVER go to failure. It'll slow down your progress.

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QUOTE(dharmabums @ Feb 3 2016, 10:24 AM)
It's up to you if you want to go all out with your workout however keep in mind a couple things; form and safety.

Form: You will get good gains with good form but if you're forcing yourself just to complete that last rep in really bad form then don't. It just breeds as a bad habit; eventually you'll think that it's ok to do a move with bad form.

Safety: In calisthenics there are many advance moves that requires a lot of strength to perform, you do not want to be in mid motion when performing these moves only for your limbs to fail. Imagine you're doing an handstand push up and your arms give out cause you're out of energy... you'll come crashing down on your head and you don't want that.

Another thing that you may want to consider is your level conditioning and the amount of rest you're getting. Not giving yourself time to recuperate only builds up wear and tear which eventually leads to injury. If you go all out and you're still sore during your next workout ease off a bit.

PS: These are just generic advice. If you're doing a more specific training regime like skill training. NEVER, EVER go to failure. It'll slow down your progress.

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I am aware of newly acquired skills and higher risk moves.

I was referring to basic moves like push up and pull up that I do every workout. I have managed to double the reps but the progress took a while. I am thinking of faster progress.

During pull up, I usually fail at the arms first. My arms are not strong enough or I am not engaging my back muscles well enough to take more share of the load.



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post Feb 3 2016, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Feb 3 2016, 11:06 AM)
I am aware of newly acquired skills and higher risk moves.

I was referring to basic moves like push up and pull up that I do every workout. I have  managed to double the reps but the progress took a while. I am thinking of faster progress.

During pull up, I usually fail at the arms first. My arms are not strong enough or I am not engaging my back muscles well enough to take more share of the load.
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One of the biggest mistakes a newbie would make is that they try to rush through their progress, which usually leads to poor progress and in lots of cases injury. Don't rush, you're not just building up on strength and muscles... you also have to build up on your joints, tendon and ligaments. These last three take time to condition, so don't rush to injure yourself.

For pushups, i guess it's fine to go to failure once in a while but like i said don't got to failure at the expense of form. I would also say do it if you're going for a PR but if it's just for normal workouts it's not necessary.

As for Pull ups try not to go to failure if you're new to it. Pull ups are probably one of the hardest things to progress up as you're pulling up on your full body weight unlike a push up. Building up a pull up requires endurance too not just strength especially the forearms (which a lot of people neglect). It would be helpful if you gave more details on what you're working on.

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