It only you can see the thickness of 0.80mtr through naked eyes.

13' is ideal. After slab and plaster ceiling you have a roomy space but usually this is for landed

Wat is traveller package?

I met the boss before but i very doubt that he can even remember me bcos am just ikan bilis he used to play golf w my ex boss.

I usually dun bring my cheque book when visiting show units...and my credit card has very low credit

The standard is the more expensive is your unit in absolute term, the lower carparking lots will be allocated.

Its the stupid and unfair way to allocate better or lower carpark lots to undesire units or small units.

I thought we were at the same wave lenght....

Why the debate???

There is tkme limit and fine if developer overstayed their approval.

You cant build a project which approved 10yrs ago.

I think normal period is 2 yrs nia...after which you need to write in for extension and etc...

got no such thing.

all old condos and apartments got to adopt the new strata title act 2013.

doesn't matter when it was approved.

when buy property for own stay, dun listen to other ppl, but listen to yr heart.

Astrea is even closer to HTC than Avara.

why not consider DPC? subsale of Westside 1 n 2 also banyak in the market, if you want to talk abt ATAS feel.

its true that people will raise their eyebrows when you said you live in MK than OKR.....

you better say next to mid valley or seputeh.

oh yah....this avara is on seputeh address rite? seputeh more sek hiong than apa MK 100times over.

Okr is not a place. Just an aged old connecting road from kul to klang, akin to fedwhy.

U dun say you stay ar fedhwy....its either section apa apa subang sg wag and etc....

Same w okr property.

Alamak you dun know what is dpc stand for yet you agree w people say mk more sek hiong than okr?

Desa park city. Its actually part of kepong.

Now kepong is part of dpc.

If everybody stays at ATAS place, then who will stay at non atas place?

You just to ask randomly in yr office. Of three dpc mk and okr, which one woild they choose if they have won a property in one of the 3 locales.

Okr is the trunck road...this is fact and its not the location.
Okr serving pjs oug desa kuchai and seputeh.

Already explained earlier...same logic w fedHwy.
Why are people here so stubborn.

Did you hear ppl said i live at ldp, or nkve or npe boh?

Dpc is considered ATAS place by many people. Its literally a dream to be part of dpc....but not for me thought.

Dpc is not the center of gravity. Of certain concentrated areas, there will be an uppmarket area.

You dun buy and live in atas place for the sake of atas. You buy where most of yr social activities are.

If u think westside subsale is cheaper than avara, wait til you nego w buyer n you will see how low it can go. Published price is just asking price.

Also you need to consider avara is a boutique standalone development. Developer will done and dusted the project once it finishes.

Dpc is a township development. Developer still have 'responsibility' to care for the township until they completed all land.

P/s last thing to remember....the buying part is the easiest.

This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: May 15 2019, 09:03 PM

haiz…..here we go again

if avara developer wants to have their own corporate office, why don't they build their HQ, owns the building and have its naming right as well?

once avara is completed, the cares and responsibility of the building, typically the resi units BY LAW will be handed back to residents, not Developer.
Am not sure who will maintain the retails or offices there. My guess will be the same jMb that took care of the resi units as well.

even if developer bought over few units of the retail space, their votes are not more than anyone else. unless they so hor sim donating ten of thousand of ringgit each year to the sinking fund.

and as buyers out there for this project, you guys should be worried more if the developer also playing puppet at the back of jmb. they will work to THEIR advantage than your interest. Few developers openly doing this to their completed developments.

have you guys seen MahSIng HQ?

better or not, each to its own.

the +ve about standalone development such as avara is that they can benefit from existing facilities and amenities esp when comes to food and accesses. Good and brande school and etc....

for township, everything need to be planned and created, otherwise need to drive 5 to 10 mins for kai fan and etc.

ask people that stay at MK or DPC, can they tapou kai fam for under rm7 boh? within walking distance or drive under 5mins?

Sir

Ppl build opis block doesnt mean they have to use all.
You can actually build opis block for sale to public yet can keep few floors for own use.
Since tis is commercial title...there is no any harder to sell offices than resi.

Is developer sapued all retails and office units in avara? Maintaining their own office snd building are two seperate matters.

Their interest at best is limited to few units of offices and there is no guarantee that they wont move out or not base there at all.

Again i dun see why all buyers are so excited about developer stationed at the same building you staying in.

And i still dun see how 'large part' of building is owned by developer.

No. Resi owners are not 'supposed' to pay for commercial but not every cost can be clearly identified also.
Bcos of one title usually jmb will look after both parties interest.

1st yr...developer needs to joint hand w resi, hence the term jmb came abt (joint management board).
2nd yr...developer should try their best to pass down responsibility. Some cases it can but others find it difficult to acheived.

Yes every unit owner has one vote. But developer will have all the votes for unsold units as well as the so called office units.

Not all resi will vote or eligible to vote or want to vote.

See how the appointment of management team come about 1st.

Mate....

If developer goes all out to give the best impression of the building, who will eventually ended up paying????

If resi have enuf vote to stop developer from spending unnecessarily then its ok.

But if resi dun have enuf votes, guess who will be paying for the sui sui landscape and streetscape.

Tis is not correct.

The cost will be apportional to yr approved unir side...more or less.

Cost = common cost ground cost cleaninh cost cost of mght co and etc.

all I can say is when the developer put a hand into the running jmb or even in case of 'owning' the management company, none of these buildings even been a success story. e.g. Regalia.

perhaps if anyone know of any building that directly or indirectly control by the developer but performed exceptionally well, do share.

no problem on conclusion. Just want to highlight and at least everyone is aware of what could be happening.

If you want to deal w a responsible developer that really care about what on offer and how to improve or compromise. Pls look up to suntrack.

They have 2 projects . One landed in cyber done and dusted and another one is riyang at happy garden/desa....

They even participate in tis forum, answering questions and doubt. Sometimes the big boss replied personally.

Tis is whar i called true involvement.

By the way riyang is now 100% sold out.....not vped yet.