Dank.
Stock gaterons blacks? I've already used mx blues, and mx clears. I don't know if id like linear tho.
Any suggestions? I thought of using linear gaterons but then it's kinda soft. Maybe even too soft. I have one clear gateron and it's really smooth but I guess it's because it's lubed anyways from the owner.

Gateron backs using similar spring like mx black? Mx black should be heavy right? Haha

ty for reply . I'll stick with f104 C: .
Is there any F104 user ?

um. i think it mx black uses 60g springs and gateron black uses 50g but i've got a bunch of 62g anyways.
well my plan was to get mx blues and swap it out but blah. idk.
linears might be nice tho for a change.

Will never use stock spring
Always 55g for me.

If you don't like linear, dont paksa urself to like linear
Gateron stock linear got 3 weights, 1 is clear with 45g spring, 1 is red with 60g spring, and 1 more black is 80g spring kinda heavy.
Gateron switches are smooth to start with, and they comes with a little lube.

welp.
I don't mind trying linear but we'll see.
still waiting for my pcb from GON

Go for Topre, tactile switch.
Don't even bother to try linear, if really don't like linear.

GON

Last photo for tonight.
1Mbit warning

I like tactile. My first board was a ducky with browns. tbh, browns are not that bad.
but clear switch with 62g is really the sweet spot for me now.

woot damn naisu.

must be hard to desolder everything and solder again.

im just wondering how does kailh switches fair

im torn between Vortex Oni PBT TKL (RM 349), CM quickfire I (RM 340) & Filco Majestouch 2 TKL (RM 379)

why filco so exp

as far as i know. most people will vouch for mx.

only until recently people vouching for gateron as well.

get filco. its a good long lasting board and easy to resell among mk enthusiast as well

yeah, there is the whole debate going on for kailh and cherry. afaik they felt almost identical and the biggest question is their built/durability. if cherry cant last up to 20 years while kailh up to 15 years, i wouldnt mind kailh though. not too sure about gateron though but is a good thing cherry knock off getting more recognition.
Thanks for the suggestion, i think i need to stretch my wallet a bit more for filco, on the plus side i can smack people with it and it will be still good

Kinda frustrated whenever I desolder mass produced keyboard, Ducky, KBT, IKBC, Filco..etc.
The solder melts really slow that I have to add my Kester solder for reflow, so it is easier to melt.

Kester solder wire is really good, highly recommended for anybody to do soldering works.

Took me about +- 8 hours time to do everything, excl cleaning

Exactly. That's why I rather assemble a whole freaking new keyboard from scratch than help people modify their kibod.

Then i take both. Thanks quovadis123.


Btw, guys...how about deck? i kinda like the design and not so fancy lighting and it's Costar Stabilizer than Cherry stablilizer. Btw, why ang mohs like Costar stabilizer than cherry stabilizer? Anyone mind to shred me some thought in these?

This post has been edited by hianz86: Mar 30 2015, 09:49 AM

Niceeee! I just realised that Filcos switch orientation is upside down on the bottom left side. Lol
Either way. Looks real clean and nice. By the way, did you lube the switches? You said previously the switches came pre-lubed a little. I actually still have some thick lube that was meant for tactile switches. Not sure if it's appropriate if I use it for linear. Maybe if I could just apply it evenly and thinly?

For this I did not lube the switch, I left it at "default". Not worth to spend so much of time
You can apply a thin layer. Also depends on the viscosity of your lube.
Lubing thicker oil will definitely making it more silent.

First, Filco is not expensive. If you always have tracking the Filco prices, the Filco now are cheaper compared to last time 4xx-5xx.
Second, Filco is the best among all OEM in its league.

You can try for some entry boards first, then after quite a long time recommended you upgrade to Filco to see the real difference of Filco.

Note: My old filco MJ2 is >RM4xx

Deck is good. It's like Ducky as well.
The pro in Deck is that, the LED features can be scripted by user.

Costar = Clipped-cherry > Cherry
Costar feel nicer to press on, flexible, and the responsiveness is superb.
The pro of costar is can fit some warped long keys without any issue like tilted etc.
So, it's good for those entry or medium user.

Once, you go deep into custom later, most are using Cherry stab.

Bro....since u all so pro....i have a very very very very noob question to ask... which manu have the most last long LED life span a...i understand it's depends on the brightness and effects u play with it...but any clue which is more durable? and it is able to change by my self....if it is over warranty period? Now thinking of ducky shine 4 or deck...Filco i gonna get the TKL yellow majestic or anyone can recommend me better version of Filco? appreciate your help