Asroc would be nice but

I looking more toward MILAS system based on MU90 and otomat missile. And since we operate the otomat missile system should not be a problem for future training.

The only things is whre put. A very big system unlike vl-asroc can put onto vls

The lack of range is still an issue. I doubt any half competent sub driver would allow his sub to get that close to an enemy ship. He would've keep it within his arm's length.

Well I'm not asroc fans.
If we are going for large ship with lots of vls cell yeah sure it wpuld be nice going for asroc.
It usually put on fac of boats.
Hamina class also been equipped with it.
once you are been detected by these speedster you are in big trouble.

A Philippine Marine gestures at a Chinese Coast Guard vessel which tries to block a Philippine Government vessel AM700 from approaching the Second Thomas Shoal (local name Ayungin Shoal) to resupply and replace fellow marines who were deployed for almost five months Saturday, March 29, 2014 off South China Sea on the West Philippine Sea. On April 9, Filipino fishermen said, a Chinese vessel used water cannon to drive away at least 80 fishermen from Panatag Shoal (Scarborough Shoal). AP FILE PHOTO

That why i looking toward milas system plus sea centor with hard kill and towed sonar. We will one awesome asw ship some thing like the asw fremm of the italian navy.

Once a submarine lauch a torpedo. That when it most vunerable because it basically tell the enemy that he is there and within close proximity which also can be calculated.

No matter how advance a torpedo is.. a closer engagement range give better hit sucess. Trial and tested since ww2. Plus, even mordern sop based on us subs is to get visual first then only lauch torpedo to avoid shooting the wrong ships and also visual confirmation of the kill.

For ship defence.. there decoys and if decoys fail anti-torpedo torpedo. The milas or asroc is more toward hunting the subs once the ship successful defend itself  from torpedo hit.

I was told once that depth charge is more effective on shallow water because sub cant dive further down to hide.

Maybe LTZ can give better insight

That's what i'm thinking, since our Gowind will be configured for ASW. Maybe our next batch of Gowind will be configured for area air defence.

Seahawk is good, very capable asw platform for the gowind

depend what you see. I refer to  Seahawk romeo
technically yes, one of best ASW heli,  it still can use in our Gowind, but not 100% best solution for Gowind. if finally select for Gowind, than mainly due to price is cheaper
1) Our Gowind is use Thales ASW system, than Seahawk use own system from L3, means both work independently, can't share date between ship/Heli,  if want to install Thales ASW system in Seahawk, than have to pay more for RnD and Integration. than price even expensive than AW159 ASW. (we only need 6)
2. Too small space in seahawk, Seahawk romeo with ASW system there is no space anymore for SAR, crew/goods transport or event Medical assistance,  same issue to AW159.  remember only 1 heli fit in Gowind, well on US DDG, they have 2 heli hanger , 1 for ASW Heli,  other 1 for crew/goods transport and SAR.

so i think Gowind probably not get ASW heli, just normal navy heli with search radar and FLIR, mostly Seahwak/AW159. only Nh90NFH fit both,but just too expensive.

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The ship, "Zhang Jian", named after the founder of Shanghai Ocean University, is 97 meters long and 17.8 meters wide. It has a designed displacement of around 4,800 tons and 15,000-nautical mile endurance ability, Xinhua news agency reported.

Designed to carry 60 people, the ship will boast advanced laboratories, data processing and information centers and other devices.

The "Zhang Jian" will serve as a mother ship to the manned submersible "Rainbow Fish" which is capable of diving to a depth of 11,000 meters, and will be used in general ocean expedition missions, deep-sea engineering, rescue and salvage, underwater archaeology and film shooting, said Cui Weicheng, head of the Hadal Research Center at Shanghai Ocean University.

The vessel is scheduled to float in June 2016. Chinese scientists will launch unmanned diving expeditions in the deepest area of the Pacific's Mariana Trench in 2016, and manned diving in this area in 2019, with the Rainbow Fish submersible and other deep-sea devices, the agency said.

China's manned submersible “Jiaolong” reached its deepest depth of 7,062 meters in the Mariana Trench in June 2012.

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That's what i'm thinking, since our Gowind will be configured for ASW. Maybe our next batch of Gowind will be configured for area air defence.

It is depending....modern depth charge has depth sensor so that they can be set to explode at what depth. normally depth charge is not to destroy totally the sub unless it explodes just nearby. It is to bring nightmare to submariners & to damage some sensitive parts so that sub cant continue with her mission.

That was the hope. But another ships from dsme basically will overlap the second batch of sgpv. Definitely,there would be budget concern

The current gowind will be said in between aaw and asw with anti ship capabilities. To be honest, it quite a inadequate here and there system, if want to say multi-purpose, sg formidable class would be better

A proper ciws pun tak ada
Ada request for more subs?

That's what I'm afraid. They try to fit too big a role in too small a platform. I think they should upgrade the Kedah class to be a multirole surface warship while the Gowind should just concentrate on being an ASW specialist. We are woefully lacking in that area.

That was the hope. But another ships from dsme basically will overlap the second batch of sgpv. Definitely,there would be budget concern

The current gowind will be said in between aaw and asw with anti ship capabilities. To be honest, it quite a inadequate here and there system, if want to say multi-purpose, sg formidable class would be better

A proper ciws pun tak ada
Ada request for more subs?

Just folow formidable class configuration onto the gowind platform would be good enough already. With nsm as primary antiship

Ade tu ade la....tp tak akan masuk priority list punye. Mungkin 2050 baru consider balik kot..... byk sgt wishlist kena tinggal belakang dah

SG formidable class configure more as AAW role + multipurpose frigate.
just like they philosophy, Air defense.... as there priority,

That's what I'm afraid. They try to fit too big a role in too small a platform. I think they should upgrade the Kedah class to be a multirole surface warship while the Gowind should just concentrate on being an ASW specialist. We are woefully lacking in that area.