I dont think that majority of the people here are bias. As u stated that the TS is jz a kid. Hmmm... have a look at his signature, stated there 15 yr old. I would like to ask every1 here, is 15 yr old consider a kid?? Mayb for most of u, but a 15 yr old kid can already understand english vry well and think rationally. i dont see that a 15 yr old kid will b such childish and not rational in cursing and scolding with such a rude manner. If he really dont understand english vry well, y not he jz post in Malay like some of Malay's forumer does?? That can state his / her position better, and let us understand more... Do u agree about that..?? As i see here, the TS have no intention to claim anything but jz cursing here and there; hoping the sympathy from other forumers. In the other hand, a person's anger is limited. Every1 have their own limited patiency. If u are a bc person, a guy keep on cursing u by sms and disturbing u everyday, how would u feel??? I personally did not trade / dealt wif elain, but he did ask me something about my sales before. From the way she ask and etc, i can roughly noe her attitude. Frankly speaking, if im elain, i will nvr bother this guy here nor refund even a single cent for him. Sumore he is not paying cash. Paying by reloads coupon?? What a joke!!!! He did say that he dont have any acc, y not he jz bank in via a bank-in machine in the bank??? Thats ridiculous......

paying with reload coupon, nothing wrong with that as long the value is still same and the seller accepts it as well.
hope I can see more evidence (pictures) of the "bad conditions" that the buyer claimed. This is the main factor to decide whether a refund should be done or not. The size itself cannot be a deciding factor, because it's buyer's negligence to let that go unnoticed.

i m selling 2 him a jacket not tshirt... thank everyone for ur kind opinion ...i will wait da thread starter 2 come back n settle dis wif me...thx again...

perhaps he want to prove elaineliew88 is improper seller...

in real life, impossible have seller scold buyer when want to deal a transaction or even after sales&services... it make sense... if have any seller scold me stupid or not giving a $hit services after i bought, i wont deal with the seller anymore... but if i have a customer keep doing unstoppable for over-request from me, not satisfy wat i done the best for him, just ignore him or gain other ppl help or give a $hit...

not offending elaineliew88, she should change the ways to communicate with kiddy (even anyone), use proper language for business... sekut5186 should learn to how solve problem in comfort ways, but not bcos of a clothes and invite her go to police station drink free coffee

if sekut5186 dont like the clothes...
1. return and refund
2. re-sell to other people
3. keep as collection (from posted picture, have other Mickey Mouse item, mayb u r one of the fans also)
4. donate to ur kids

This post has been edited by gkl83: Oct 11 2006, 12:20 PM

Not everyone is same at the age of 15, ok? Some very mature and most of 'em still childish..

There is no such need to say who scold who or watever related to father..
Police has nothing to do with this and if you go report.. They will call you budak kecil balik tidur..

elaineliew88, either refund or ignore..

sekut5186, stop cursing / scolding / complaining .. that won't solve problem..

ye la
tapi saya dah bilang saya nie tinggi 200 sama macam pintu
dia cakap muat !!!

sebab itu saya beli
sekarang baju itu kecil macam baju budak darjah 4~5

sekut5186,

Let me ask you something. How do you want to settle with elaine? Call your dad?
To be frank, from all of your post here, what I can see it that you are just ranting your frustration and does not want to accept any solution given.
Being a 15 years old kids doesn't mean that you can act like a kindergarden kid.
Come on, lets be frank, it's very easy. You return elaine her jacket, elaine return back your topup reload(since you used it for transaction, back to square 1). You can't demand anything like cash money since it was you who start transaction using reloads.

And since you said that jacket is small, why don't you take a picture of yourself with that jacket. Let us judge it.

This problem can be settled easily and you are the one that makes it harder or complicated.

And as for elaine, freesize does not mean anything. Next time, please put a proper description. Your freesize couldn't be fit on someone having XXXL body size don't you?

This post has been edited by stevanistelrooy: Oct 11 2006, 02:15 PM

lepas tu cik adik nak macam mana ? nak kak elaine refund ke macam mana ?

bagi tau la sikit apa yang cik adik nak dengan membuka topik sebegini .... takkan la cuma nak komplen ? kalau nak komplen je .... baik tutup sebelum abang mod / trade enforcer tolong cik adik tutup.

dont here...
not 1 will pity u if u cry like a baby even... u should accept the risk by buying the clothes which have sizes... plus elaineliew88 mentioned is free size, which means is standard size for people... if u said u tinggi like 200cm, i dont think any free size clothes u able to wear too, unless u want to wear body tight clothes... so u have done the mistake as well, u cant push 100% responsibility to elaineliew88... but elaineliew88 also done mistake, impossible free size can wear by 200cm "adult" also...

Solutions:
1. return and refund
2. re-sell to other people
3. keep as collection (from posted picture, have other Mickey Mouse item, mayb u r one of the fans also)
4. donate to ur kids

Adik.. Bersabar..
Aku sudah tengok gambar tu.. Sememangnya boleh muat jikalau ia seperti yang di tunjuk dalam gambar.. Sebab tepi tu ade sikit kertas saiz A4.. Baju tu dua kali saiz paper itu.. AKu bukan tinggi macam awak.. 170cm+ sahaja.. MEmang boleh muat.. Panjang lengan tu awak patut check baik baik lepas dia kasi gambar kat awak.. tengok pun tahu bukan lengan panjang punya jacket.. Mestilah sampai siku awak...
Sekarang .. Boleh tahu berat badan adik? Kalau melampau gemuk mesti tak masuk.. Aku 50kgs.. Guarantee muat punya..
DAN apa adik mahu seller tu buat?

(-- He keeps complaining only.. Maybe don't understand you guyz --)

can every1 stop picking on him coz he is 15years old and act childishly.... Please accept the way he behave and deal accordingly, leave the job of maturing him to his parents.

Lets sum up wat he trying to say
1) he told seller tat he is as tall as the door, stop questioning him about the height of the door he mentioned about, most of us know how tall is the standard door in malaysia. seller's responsibility to find out wat he mean by that

2) seller scold him back which is kind of rude, why reply fire with fire. Bigger fire is what u get.

3) seller told him tat he can muat tats y he bought it, seller din deny tat she din say all tat. Its her responsibility to ensure wat she said is correct, obviously she never think throughoutly when she answered 'yes'. Although she did mention its free size, but she did say a guy tat size (as tall as pintu) can muat. Shudnt she be responsible for it?

4) he pay using top up, so wat? seller agreed to it. he never force seller to accept it, she can refuse to deal if she dont want to. so end of discussion! stop bashing him about this anymore k? its getting annoying... at least from my point of view

5) he is childish... yes. But it happens in life. Dont force them to become something he is not. The way u type here reflect ur real life personality. He is childish in real life, so he is childish here. It makes sense rite? so just bear with his language pls....

as for the solution, in this case... i think seller should suggest wat to do since thread starter created this topic coz he is unhappy and dunno wat to do about it.

Ya.. Although he is childish but i think you guyz too harsh on him already..

now i sms she and call she
she off the handpone

and she also close ym
T_T

bcos u disturbing her life... for me i will off the phone too or waist ur hp's credit to hear wat the crap u talk...

pls get the solutions that i proposed... after u decided, case close and stop waisting our effort on this case... and spent ur precious time on ur study and save ur hp's credit to call ur parents...

the people who keep agrue and no action is the most failure people...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Oct 11 2006, 04:50 PM

Stop crapping lah...

1. return it and get your topup back
2. give to your friend / relative / sibblings / friend's children / etc
3. wear it sexy

IMO, i don't agree to refund.

sekut5186, you should be responsible as an online buyer. You wanna buy cloth online, so take your own risklah. Why become a joker?

This case can be settled by just closing the thread.

This post has been edited by ^_^: Oct 11 2006, 05:54 PM

TS,you said that you tall like pintu(200)...

pintu??wat pintu??which pintu??
the pintu for my dog's house?...
my house below the staircase also got a pintu,its just 1 meter,is this pintu as you said?...
or the pintu in temple,4 or 5 meters high..

200??mean wat??
200KM?? 200M?? 200CM?? 200MM??
or your house pintu model No.200 ???

so, sekarang cik adik sekut nak akak elaine buat apa ?

Boleh tak sekut5186 pakai baju tu, lepas tu tangkap gambar bagi kita orang tengok tanpa muka engkau papar kat Forum ini. kamu asik cakap tak muat, lengan baju pendek lebih sikit besar dari kotak tisu.

Saya rasa fesyen baju itu memang begitu. Lengan baju sampai siku saja. Kalau baju itu dibuat bukan sebab fesyen, baju itu boleh dikatakan baju untuk T-rex..

This post has been edited by 6650: Oct 11 2006, 07:10 PM

guys...this is getting really ridiculous like what the trade enforcers said. Please stop crapping in this thread with rubbish comments.

Buyer and seller really need to cool down and settle this but from what I see both is like unwilling to settle.

One comment I need to add is buyer's comment of "besar macam pintu". I think a lot of people misunderstood him. That is just an expression to let seller know he is big size person. Use your common sense lah. He said like this doesn't really mean he is like giant size (maybe he really is...gulp). But having said that, one would imagine this guy is really big framed. Seller is at fault here for not able to predict his size "big as a door". He said pintu means again common sense...a regular sized door lah. Why people would want to think about mini door, car door, fridge door or something else is beyond my comprehension.

Now, someone have to take initiative to solve the case here. Whoever taking the initiative will be the mature one with good attitude towards solving this case. No one is right or wrong here. Both is equally right and equally wrong.