QUOTE(hianz86 @ Jun 16 2015, 10:55 AM)
Haha thanks.The SSD Thread V5, Solid State Drive
The SSD Thread V5, Solid State Drive
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Jun 16 2015, 10:56 AM
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Jun 16 2015, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(hianz86 @ Jun 16 2015, 10:34 AM) Loading time eh? let me try more loading intense game and test it out again. Will run benchmark and share over here. Btw, is OEM version recommended to get? I get it because it is quite cheap. RM330 for 256GB. Mind to share me your input? Kentang goreng? yeah mainly load time should be improved. there are others but it really depends on your setup and usage (e.g. file copy - ssd to ssd, not ssd to hdd or hdd to ssd - i.e. anything that is related directly to reads and writes). oem ssds are actually similar to retail units with minor adjustments to suit oem orders. the main difference is warranty. this is the only sacrifice and risk that you need to make and take. if you're concerned about warranty, then don't go for it. i have some sata oem drives. so far they work as good as retail units. they are very affordable so i made my own 'warranty' thing: get a few more as backups. the total costs are still lower than retail units. QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jun 16 2015, 11:52 AM) tlc era is coming |
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Jun 16 2015, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 16 2015, 02:11 PM) yeah mainly load time should be improved. there are others but it really depends on your setup and usage (e.g. file copy - ssd to ssd, not ssd to hdd or hdd to ssd - i.e. anything that is related directly to reads and writes). Thanks for giving me the comment. Appreciate it. Since it's like a beta version / demo and test the SSD, i don't really care about the warranty. I only store my stuff in the HDD. SSD only for game in steam. Everything well taken care of by gaben. So it should be alright for me. oem ssds are actually similar to retail units with minor adjustments to suit oem orders. the main difference is warranty. this is the only sacrifice and risk that you need to make and take. if you're concerned about warranty, then don't go for it. i have some sata oem drives. so far they work as good as retail units. they are very affordable so i made my own 'warranty' thing: get a few more as backups. the total costs are still lower than retail units. tlc era is coming Really cheap i would say. Almost the lower price x2. |
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Jun 16 2015, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(hianz86 @ Jun 16 2015, 03:25 PM) Thanks for giving me the comment. Appreciate it. Since it's like a beta version / demo and test the SSD, i don't really care about the warranty. I only store my stuff in the HDD. SSD only for game in steam. Everything well taken care of by gaben. So it should be alright for me. yeah it depends on how you see things. tbh, my oldest ssd is an oem drive. (i couldn't afford spanking new retail units at that time, so my friend sold me a used oem at very low price Really cheap i would say. Almost the lower price x2. |
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Jun 17 2015, 02:32 AM
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goldfries because it's too great for price vs performance , I plan to get it for normal usage , actually not much on gaming.
So maybe if you have time can do some SSD endurance experiment stress test 200TB w/r btw , what's the differnet between intel ssd 335 vs 330 for 120GB ? Same firmware and fixed ? |
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Jun 17 2015, 02:51 PM
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Hi, what software/method are suitable to secure erase liteon l9s ssd?
If samsung, got its own software, but i cant find one for liteon.. googled it, but not sure which one is for liteon... Thanks in advanced. |
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Jun 17 2015, 03:46 PM
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Jun 17 2015, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(em0ti0n @ Jun 17 2015, 02:51 PM) Hi, what software/method are suitable to secure erase liteon l9s ssd? the simplest way is to use disk management to produce similar outcome. the method uses built-in garbage collection (gc) and trim. all you need to do is to select the disk you wanna clean up, and delete everything (volume, partitions, etc.) in disk management. the drive will become unallocated fully. then leave it alone for 1 to 2 hours (some suggested leaving it overnight). if you're familiar with diskpart, the same can be done with 'clean'.If samsung, got its own software, but i cant find one for liteon.. googled it, but not sure which one is for liteon... Thanks in advanced. after the above, you can manually issuing trim to ssd again (e.g. optimize drive in w8.x) to make sure controller processes the command once more. |
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Jun 17 2015, 05:16 PM
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Sorry I dont understand about this SSD problem test , https://blog.algolia.com/when-solid-state-d...not-that-solid/
Wanted to know whether Intel 330 or 335 affected ? |
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Jun 17 2015, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Jun 17 2015, 03:46 PM) i want to reformat it, so need to reset it to factory.. hmm.. ur means by wipe is? delete everything?QUOTE(horns @ Jun 17 2015, 03:59 PM) the simplest way is to use disk management to produce similar outcome. the method uses built-in garbage collection (gc) and trim. all you need to do is to select the disk you wanna clean up, and delete everything (volume, partitions, etc.) in disk management. the drive will become unallocated fully. then leave it alone for 1 to 2 hours (some suggested leaving it overnight). if you're familiar with diskpart, the same can be done with 'clean'. thanks.. i will recheck on ur method.. btw, is using parted magic safe? i saw some video on youtube using it.after the above, you can manually issuing trim to ssd again (e.g. optimize drive in w8.x) to make sure controller processes the command once more. |
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Jun 17 2015, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Jun 17 2015, 05:16 PM) Sorry I dont understand about this SSD problem test , https://blog.algolia.com/when-solid-state-d...not-that-solid/ thanks for this article. it's a good read, bringing me back to those old code-reading days (supervise is still one of my favorite tools to be used in linux boxes lol!)Wanted to know whether Intel 330 or 335 affected ? back to the topic, tl;dr; it's about ssds from samsung (the whole 8 series), certain crucial/micron, ocz, intel, etc. being blacklisted in linux's ata driver (along with other storage types and models), because of non-compliance to standards that involves disabling queued trim on them. (from that article, un-queued trim was used and caused issues too) imo, it's really depends on usage. those are scenarios and workloads in heavy duty linux servers running 24/7. (those lines of codes can be translated into this, in terms of ssd: in mission critical systems, don't ever use consumer ssds, mainstream or enthusiast; and don't enable trim in linux if the ssd is listed). in reality, our computing loads will certainly not reach that level. i know the key point is still about trim in linux. how many of us have trim issues before that caused data corruption? i have crucial m500, and most of the samsung 8 series in that list. i have no issues so far. (maybe because they are running windows) of course, if you're running linux in your machine, i think it's better to avoid those blacklisted drives, or just disable trim if you insisted. as for your question, yes, at least 330 is affected. (the answer is not obvious but it's in a link from that page, http://www.aerospike.com/docs/operations/p...ification.html) QUOTE(em0ti0n @ Jun 17 2015, 06:20 PM) thanks.. i will recheck on ur method.. btw, is using parted magic safe? i saw some video on youtube using it. i am not sure about this, but if it's using the similar method that handles hdd's secure erase, then it's not safe imo.edit: buggy link fixed. This post has been edited by horns: Jun 18 2015, 12:15 PM |
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Jun 17 2015, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 17 2015, 11:13 PM) i am not sure about this, but if it's using the similar method that handles hdd's secure erase, then it's not safe imo. well, i check on the method that u shared.. it is only applicable to the non bootable ssd looks like need to gamble with the software... or maybe need to do more research on this, or hear one or two comment from l9s users.. |
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Jun 17 2015, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(em0ti0n @ Jun 17 2015, 11:23 PM) well, i check on the method that u shared.. it is only applicable to the non bootable ssd uh? you're doing secure erase, right? of course you can do that to a bootable drive. just boot from windows install media and do it.looks like need to gamble with the software... or maybe need to do more research on this, or hear one or two comment from l9s users.. imo unless the ssd is slower than usual, there is no need to do secure erase often. i just do every few months (up to a year) when i think it's time to reformat the drive and have a clean install/system restore. |
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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 17 2015, 11:55 PM) uh? you're doing secure erase, right? of course you can do that to a bootable drive. just boot from windows install media and do it. yeah, im doing secure erase.. according to hereimo unless the ssd is slower than usual, there is no need to do secure erase often. i just do every few months (up to a year) when i think it's time to reformat the drive and have a clean install/system restore. QUOTE As long as the SSD is not being used as the boot drive, you can do this in Windows using the Disk Management utility does it means i cannot do it on current ssd instal with OS or i need to boot from another drive? |
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QUOTE(em0ti0n @ Jun 18 2015, 06:37 AM) yeah, im doing secure erase.. according to here That part referrred to a running system in which os in the boot drive is active. It simply means to do a secure erase on it you can either boot the computer with another tool (e.g. windows install media, or simply the tool created with ssd management software), or you put the boot drive to another computer via sata cable as non-booting drive.does it means i cannot do it on current ssd instal with OS or i need to boot from another drive? |
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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 18 2015, 08:21 AM) That part referrred to a running system in which os in the boot drive is active. It simply means to do a secure erase on it you can either boot the computer with another tool (e.g. windows install media, or simply the tool created with ssd management software), or you put the boot drive to another computer via sata cable as non-booting drive. oh now i understand... thanks for clarifying.. |
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em0ti0n Thanks for the explanation , which means
Windows = Any ssd will do ( trim enable ) Linux with ext4 = Particular model ( trim disable ) Will a newer kernal fix it ? http://www.military-technologies.net/2015/...ially-released/ Guess avoid linux system on ssd first until problem fix but for window any SSD will do right ? Normal usage , just for loding window faster and program faster , beside it's slow , everytime load something I can hear my Sgate hard disk seeking sound So which SSD do you recommend , budget not more than rm 350 |
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Jun 19 2015, 02:11 AM) em0ti0n Thanks for the explanation , which means I think I bought my Liteon 900S 256GB SSD @ RM380Windows = Any ssd will do ( trim enable ) Linux with ext4 = Particular model ( trim disable ) Will a newer kernal fix it ? http://www.military-technologies.net/2015/...ially-released/ Guess avoid linux system on ssd first until problem fix but for window any SSD will do right ? Normal usage , just for loding window faster and program faster , beside it's slow , everytime load something I can hear my Sgate hard disk seeking sound So which SSD do you recommend , budget not more than rm 350 |
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