Went to Assumption church PJ morning mass nowadays

I did go to Our Lady Of Guadalupe in Puchong which is very near my house but I find the mass is too lenghty so prefer to go further to Assumption PJ morning mass. Previously will go to either Holy Rosary or Our Lady of Fatima in Brickfields (Baptism until confirmation all in Holy Rosary church)

Nope, he is a staunch catholic. That was a period of time in V5 .... I think .... there was a debate going on

I am just saying that he will have like to have a thread like this

Predominant? I am not so sure. It might be Methodist. I could be wrong.

Catholicism ... A faith most oftenly misunderstoood. The whole "praying to Mary" thingy is just like how Christmas is defined by general public. Here's an example:

Kid : Mommy, what's Christmas?
Mom : Christmas is for Christians to celebrate Santa Claus and presents.

And the kid gew up thinking Christmas is all presents, party and booze. But if you attend a Christmas Vigil mass or Christmas Day mass, there's no sign of Santa Claus. There's no Jingle Bells. Now let's apply the same conversation to Mary:

Kid : Mommy, what are Catholics?
Mom : Catholics worship Mary

Just like how people confuse between WiFi and Internet.

According to Wikipedia:

As of 2010, there are 1,007,643[4] Catholics in Malaysia - approximately 3.56% of the total population.

Roman Catholicism in Malaysia

As for Methodists:

The Methodist Church in Malaysia is a body within the Methodist tradition in Malaysia. With approximately 200,000 members in more than 1034 congregations (local and preaching points), it is the largest Protestant denomination in the country.

Methodist Church in Malaysia

Sunday Mass at OLG lengthy? Like what? 3 hours? LOL....

Ah ... I stand corrected. Thanks.

at least 1.5hrs. Normal mass only 1hr, by the time it finishes already almost noon

If it's Sunday I don't mind 1.5 hrs since we are to dedicate Sundays to the Lord. Did you know that an average Divine Liturgy of the Byzantine Rite is between 2-4 hours?

Are you in charge or flowers or music or serving??

Music. Not choir, but the technical aspects. If in the future, you attend a wedding in STM, look to the front left where the choir area is. If you see a tall skinny guy with glasses and headphones, that's me. Around 70% chance I'll be there unless there's like 3 weddings for that weekend. Fr Simon did ask me "when is my turn". Back then, I replied "after a 100 more weddings". Now my statement is gonna bite me back.

IC, I went to STM once several months ago for the Kevin Allen workshop afternoon session. There was a wedding before that and I was observing Kevin conducting a choir singing Gabrieli's Missa Brevis. Beautiful singing. Probably you were there for that wedding...lol.

Ah, Kevin. Yup. Still remember him. The workshop. And the special 'vegetarian' menu. I was involved in the backstage work. Was the one manning the sound system when the group did the mass.

You may have seen me coming in during the early session when they had some kind of laptop problem. A guy walked in, tweaked the settings, snapped his fingers, and went off.

Similarly, the Chinese words for Christianity 基督教 (jidujiao) is normally used here to refer to Protestant Christianity rather than Christianity as a whole, while Catholicism is called 天主教 (tianzhujiao - literally translated to "Teaching of the Master of Heaven"). By right a Catholic is a Christian and a Christian is a Catholic.

The word catholic (with lowercase c; derived via Late Latin catholicus, from the Greek adjective καθολικός (katholikos), meaning "universal"[1][2]) comes from the Greek phrase καθόλου (katholou), meaning "on the whole", "according to the whole" or "in general", and is a combination of the Greek words κατά meaning "about" and ὅλος meaning "whole".[3][4] The word in English can mean either "including a wide variety of things; all-embracing" or "of the Roman Catholic faith" as "relating to the historic doctrine and practice of the Western Church.".[5] ("Catholicos, the title used for the head of some churches in Eastern Christian traditions, is derived from the same linguistic origin.)

The term Catholic (usually written with uppercase C in English) was first used to describe the Christian Church in the early 2nd century to emphasize its universal scope. In the context of Christian ecclesiology, it has a rich history and several usages.

The earliest recorded evidence of the use of the term "Catholic Church" is the Letter to the Smyrnaeans that St Ignatius of Antioch wrote in about 107 to Christians in Smyrna. Exhorting Christians to remain closely united with their bishop, he wrote: "Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude [of the people] also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church."

Theodosius I, Emperor from 379 to 395, declared "Catholic" Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire, declaring in the Edict of Thessalonica of 27 February 380:

It is our desire that all the various nations which are subject to our clemency and moderation, should continue the profession of that religion which was delivered to the Romans by the divine Apostle Peter, as it has been preserved by faithful tradition and which is now professed by the Pontiff Damasus and by Peter, Bishop of Alexandria, a man of apostolic holiness. According to the apostolic teaching and the doctrine of the Gospel, let us believe in the one Deity of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, in equal majesty and in a holy Trinity. We authorize the followers of this law to assume the title Catholic Christians; but as for the others, since in our judgment they are foolish madmen, we decree that they shall be branded with the ignominious name of heretics, and shall not presume to give their conventicles the name of churches. They will suffer in the first place the chastisement of the divine condemnation, and in the second the punishment which our authority, in accordance with the will of heaven, will decide to inflict.[18] Theodosian Code XVI.i.2

Only slightly later, Saint Augustine of Hippo (354–430) also used the term "Catholic" to distinguish the "true" church from heretical groups:

In the Catholic Church, there are many other things which most justly keep me in her bosom. The consent of peoples and nations keeps me in the Church; so does her authority, inaugurated by miracles, nourished by hope, enlarged by love, established by age. The succession of priests keeps me, beginning from the very seat of the Apostle Peter, to whom the Lord, after His resurrection, gave it in charge to feed His sheep (Jn 21:15–19), down to the present episcopate.

And so, lastly, does the very name of Catholic, which, not without reason, amid so many heresies, the Church has thus retained; so that, though all heretics wish to be called Catholics, yet when a stranger asks where the Catholic Church meets, no heretic will venture to point to his own chapel or house.

Such then in number and importance are the precious ties belonging to the Christian name which keep a believer in the Catholic Church, as it is right they should ... With you, where there is none of these things to attract or keep me... No one shall move me from the faith which binds my mind with ties so many and so strong to the Christian religion... For my part, I should not believe the gospel except as moved by the authority of the Catholic Church. —St. Augustine (354–430): Against the Epistle of Manichaeus called Fundamental, chapter 4: Proofs of the Catholic Faith.

— St. Augustine (354–430): Against the Epistle of Manichaeus called Fundamental, chapter 4: Proofs of the Catholic Faith.[19]

A contemporary of Augustine, St. Vincent of Lerins, wrote in 434 (under the pseudonym Peregrinus) a work known as the Commonitoria ("Memoranda"). While insisting that, like the human body, church doctrine develops while truly keeping its identity (sections 54-59, chapter XXIII),[20] he stated:

"In the Catholic Church itself, all possible care must be taken, that we hold that faith which has been believed everywhere, always, by all. For that is truly and in the strictest sense 'catholic,' which, as the name itself and the reason of the thing declare, comprehends all universally. This rule we shall observe if we follow universality, antiquity, consent. We shall follow universality if we confess that one faith to be true, which the whole church throughout the world confesses; antiquity, if we in no wise depart from those interpretations which it is manifest were notoriously held by our holy ancestors and fathers; consent, in like manner, if in antiquity itself we adhere to the consentient definitions and determinations of all, or at the least of almost all priests and doctors" (section 6, end of chapter II).[21]

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I only saw their rehearsal, not their actual singing during the Mass itself.

Not only branched out but at least 1400+ years late to the scene..lol.

Yeap correct but no need go until that point lar just keep it simple will do

Hi,

Fellow Catholic, khool, reporting in;

khool - TP/FL : St. Ignatius Church, PJ
- Occassionally KA Chapel
- Occassionally Our Lady of Guadalupe, Puchong

The Lord be with you Guys!!!

Interesting, I just noticed that KA Chapel is at a shoplot in TTDI. Never been there before. Is it a rented place?

Are you Catholic?