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De_Luffy
post Mar 4 2015, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Mar 4 2015, 09:23 PM)
Oh...

You mean he's not Catholic anymore?

Is Catholic the predominant denomination in Malaysia?

Sorry, I'm a noob.
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Catholics is the first Christianity religion after Christ ascended to heaven, With Apostle Simon Peter as the first pope

while Protestantism is branched out from Catholics with totally different view from Catholics
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post Mar 4 2015, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Mar 4 2015, 09:50 PM)
Ohhh...But Catholics have extra chapters in their Bible.  hmm.gif

Plus why do they pray to the dead and the Saints? I thought Canonized Saints are mostly man made appointment?
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i am not sure you have to ask yeeck about it
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post Mar 4 2015, 10:06 PM

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yeeck mind to answer these questions please?
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post Mar 5 2015, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 5 2015, 03:20 PM)
Not only branched out but at least 1400+ years late to the scene..lol.
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Yeap correct but no need go until that point lar just keep it simple will do smile.gif

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post Mar 5 2015, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 5 2015, 04:21 PM)
Are you Catholic?
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nope i am not but i do know about a little about catholic ethic and way of worship as I've entered a catholic church once during my friend wedding
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post Mar 11 2015, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 11 2015, 05:35 PM)
Based on what you've said so far, no. Sorry.
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you know what yeeck, we at the other forum is trying hard to change him but he is so stubborn like a donkey so we hope you could wash him abit and 'cleanse' him please rclxms.gif rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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post Apr 15 2015, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Apr 15 2015, 01:44 AM)
The Bible Alone?

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One of Martin Luther’s invented theories from the 16th century was that “The Bible Alone” is all that is necessary to understand God’s Holy Word – No Pope, no Magesterium, no man, no woman, no university, etc., is necessary to understand what God meant to say in scripture.  A scholar, a milkmaid, a janitor, a slave, a freeman, etc., can all grasp the complete meaning of scripture without any other aid or person. Why? Because in Luther’s mind, the Holy Spirit comes to each of us to impart the truth, whether we are scholars or not, whether we understand Latin and Greek or not, or whether we are holy or not.  But we all know that this isn’t true.  For starters, there is the King James Study Bible, complete with “doctrinal footnotes.”  Doctrinal footnotes “explain” the meaning and context of certain parts of the bible that the average reader may not know about. But if “the Bible Alone” is all we need, then why are “Doctrinal footnotes,” which are NOT scriptural, added to scripture to explain it?  Is the Holy Spirit asleep or something?  Why are man-made footnotes even needed if “The Bible Alone” is all we need?

And if “the Bible Alone” is indeed a true philosophy, then why do some Lutheran Churches like the ELCA say that practicing homosexual ministers are OK, and other Lutheran Churches like the Missouri Synod say that they are not? Both Churches are descendants of Martin Luther, and they both use “the Bible Alone” as their method of studying scripture.  There are approximately 33,000 different protestant denominations today, all using “the Bible Alone” as their tradition.  But they all interpret the bible differently, or they wouldn’t be a different denomination.  Is the Holy Spirit divided?

Just for fun, let’s use the King James Bible and the tradition of “The Bible Alone,” and see what we come up with.  We won’t use any other reference sources, because to do so is to admit that “The Bible Alone” is not true.

Numbers 24:8: The Lord brought him out of Egypt; he hath the strength of a UNICORN.

-- Using “the Bible Alone” theory, we  can conclude that unicorns are real creatures, not imaginary.

2 Thessalonians 2:15: Therefore brethren, hold fast to the traditions ye have been taught, by word or by epistle.

-- Using “The Bible Alone” theory, we can conclude that traditions are good, whether they are written or whether they were orally taught.

James 2: 20: But will you know, o man, that faith without works is dead?

-- Using “the Bible Alone” theory, we can conclude that good works are a necessary component of our faith, and are not “useless.”

Romans 2:6: For God will render to every man according to his deeds.

-- Using “the Bible Alone” theory, we can conclude that God will judge us according to our deeds.

Revelation 20:13: And the sea gave up the dead in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

-- Using “the Bible Alone,” we can conclude that the dead will be judged according to their works.

Luke 1:5-6: There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was Elisabeth.  And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

-- Using “the Bible Alone,” we can conclude that there are indeed righteous people in the New Testament besides Jesus.

Hebrews 10: 26-29: For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,  But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour them.  He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:  Of how much worse punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

2 Peter 2:20-22: For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter is worse with them than the former.  For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it  happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog returned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

-- Using “the Bible Alone,” we can conclude that people can indeed lose their salvation after having been “saved,” and the “once saved, always saved” philosophy is unbiblical and a tradition of man.

Acts 8: 26-31: And the angel of the Lord spoke to Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.  And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who was in charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship, was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.  Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.  And Philip ran to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, “Understandest thou what thou readest?”  And he said, “How can I, except some man should guide me?” And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

-- Using “the Bible Alone,” we can conclude that scripture is hard to understand, and we need someone from the Church to explain it to us.

Romans 11:26: And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written,” There shall come out of Zion the Deliverer, and He shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:”

-- Using “the Bible Alone,” we can conclude that every Israeli ever born, including Caiaphas and Judas, will be saved. All means all, after all!

1 Corinthians 3:13-15: Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall disclose it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.  If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.  If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

-- Using “the Bible Alone,” we can conclude that on our judgment day, some will be saved after undergoing a trial by fire, and some will go directly to heaven with no purifying fire.

Acts 7:2: And he said, Men, brethren, and fathers, hearken; The God of glory appeared unto our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charran,

-- Using “the Bible Alone,” we can conclude that it is OK to refer to men as a “father."

2 Corinthians 1:1:Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia:

2 Corinthians 2:13: I had no rest in my spirit, because I found not Titus my brother: but taking my leave of them, I went from thence into Macedonia.

-- Using “the Bible Alone,” we can conclude that Timothy and Titus were the blood brothers of Paul.

Hebrews 13:10:  We have an altar, that they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.

-- Using “the Bible Alone,” we can conclude that a church must have an altar and a tabernacle, which provides sacred food that unbelievers do not have a right to eat.

1 Corinthians 10: 16-21: The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?  For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread.  Behold Israel after the flesh: are not they which eat of the sacrifices partakers of the alter?  What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is any thing?  But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.  Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.

-- Using “the Bible Alone,” we can conclude that the Eucharist is the body and blood of Christ and not symbolic, and it is a sacrifice akin to the altar sacrifices of the Jews and the Gentiles.  Otherwise, Paul would not have compared it to them.

This is just a sampling of what “the Bible Alone” theory offers.  Most protestants will tell you that what YOU have come with using “the Bible Alone” is erroneous, while what they came up with using “the Bible Alone” is of course infallible. But that argument fails on two counts – first, if “the Bible Alone” is true, then whatever one comes up with is true, since the Holy Spirit is guiding that person, and second, if no person is infallible, like they claim about the Pope, then how can what they come up with be infallible?

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yeeck, when you laid out things or theories please be aware that there are others who is reading this too, athough we protestant and catholics alike have a different view about the doctrine of christianity but never the less we all serve the same Lord which is Triune God.
by putting up this arcticle u might hurt other peoples feeling indirectly.........
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post Apr 16 2015, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Apr 16 2015, 08:55 AM)
Bro, there are a lot of Catholics that are backsliding and GOD is using yeeck's influence to bring HIS people back. Give him space

Neither u nor me can bring those people back to catholic but yeeck can. At what matter in this end time is ... winning soul.

but these soul goes to catholic churches, not protestant church right ? of course...
according to catholic is winning soul
according to protestant is not winning soul.
catholic wrong for reason A,B,C,D, protestant is right for reasons A,B,C,D

for such A,B,C,D reasons... let me share you that GOD's way and GOD's thinking is not always same with de_luffy thinking biggrin.gif...

Since  you are protestant: do you know that Martin Luther is guilty for rebellion ? rebellion against church authority ?
1 Samuel 15:23
For rebellion is like the sin of divination, and arrogance like the evil of idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the LORD, he has rejected you as king."

Proverbs 17:11
An evil man seeks only rebellion, and a cruel messenger will be sent against him.

Romans 13:1 (NIV)
"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."

-- ah but christian saved by grace... typical protestant excuse ? or joseph prince teaching ?...

as i said earlier, and i will put here so to highlight you:
Neither u nor me can bring those people back to catholic but yeeck can. At what matter in this end time is ... winning soul.
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I don't need your nonsense talk, all your wordso are irrelevant to me.

yeeck why are you not mentioning the real truth regarding martin Luther rebel against catholic church? During martin Luther time the corrupted practice of catholic church collecting money from the peoples who wish to see the apostles relics? Isn't it's already corrupted already as stated
In the 10 indulgences by Martin Luther?

I respect you for what you are trying to do here but however the reason that the protestant existed in the first place was to protest against the corrupted practice of the church priests and the high level officials of the Catholic Church, however that is the past, what catholic church need now is to bring in more new believers or to save more peoples which is the great comission by our Lord Jesus Christ before He was ascended to heaven.

We all serve the same God, so let work together and save more peoples that needed to save and wait for the return of Christ Jesus
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post Apr 16 2015, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Apr 16 2015, 10:44 AM)
de1929, are you Catholic? If not, why not?
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He claimed himself as intermediate between man n god, and saying that holy spirit would ask him to kill anyone he already gone astray from the right path
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post Apr 16 2015, 09:53 PM

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Apr 17 2015, 12:39 AM
This post has been deleted by yeeck because: childish fighting with another poster

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post Apr 16 2015, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Apr 16 2015, 09:55 PM)
Hi yeeck ... can you delete these posts of tinaarhian & de_luffy...

I think they angry because we don't wanna follow their protestant way... lol...
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Nobody is against catholic here, but we are against your heretical teaching, if you want I can even posted all your previous comments here evidence of your heretical teaching
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post Oct 23 2015, 01:11 PM

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I have 1 question which had been on my mind for a long time, so please forgive me if my question seems to be offending anyone here smile.gif

My question is - Why Catholics need to confess their sins to priest and ask for forgiveness instead to God himself?
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post Oct 23 2015, 02:56 PM

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Well, it contradict of what is written here

http://www.neverthirsty.org/pp/corner/read/r00027.html
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post Mar 24 2016, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Mar 24 2016, 06:55 AM)
Partly due to Europe freedom of movement, ie, The Schengen Treaty.

Did you know Europe lack joint database for terrorists?

Everyone could predicted it would happen but nobody tackle the issues. Europeans should learn counter-terrorism from Israel.
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Lol tinar so free past midnight, get some sleep please
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post Mar 26 2016, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 26 2016, 02:16 PM)
I have a great respect for this former pope, he resigned as pope because of scandals he can no longer hide and he decided to retire into a more peaceful life notworthy.gif
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post Apr 2 2016, 12:50 AM

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A quick Question, Jesus ascension to heaven should be around 40 days right? But I see many churches shorten it to just 1 month?
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post Jul 28 2016, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(khool @ Jul 27 2016, 01:45 PM)
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Just cannot believe this ISIS is so desperate to prove their pagan religions....RIP to the demised sad.gif
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post Jul 28 2016, 11:45 AM

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I have a question regarding funeral rites for catholics, a friend of mine who is a catholics said that protestant christian is not allowed to attend the funeral or wake rites in catholics church? let say person A is catholics, Person B(son), person C(son, Catholics)

Person A passed away, person B not allowed to join the wake service or be in the church at all?
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post Jul 28 2016, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jul 28 2016, 11:57 AM)
Not correct. Just that non-Catholics are forbidden from receiving Holy Communion, regardless if it's funeral or non-funeral Mass.
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Thank you for the clarification smile.gif
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post Nov 2 2016, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Nov 2 2016, 12:00 PM)
ThePope you should come here. More to your liking.
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