QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Mar 15 2015, 11:10 AM)
no la.. gold investment is not for me at the moment!Fundsupermart.com v9, QE feeds the bull. Ride along...
Fundsupermart.com v9, QE feeds the bull. Ride along...
|
|
Mar 15 2015, 01:16 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
8,259 posts Joined: Sep 2009 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mar 15 2015, 01:22 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
3,541 posts Joined: Mar 2015 |
QUOTE(adamdacutie @ Mar 13 2015, 06:43 PM) sell to cash managemnt fund and put in bond fund ... any ... Thanks for your advice. I will be cashing out from all my RHB OSK unit trusts except for RHB-OSK China India Dynamic Growth Fund. For me, any fund house such as RHB-OSK that does not encourage investors to do regular portfolio rebalance by imposing switching fees and redemption fee is OUT.buy into equity again using token or wait for 0.5-1% sc promo Investors should stay away from these type of fund houses if they are investing for the long run. This post has been edited by Vanguard 2015: Mar 15 2015, 01:25 PM |
|
|
Mar 15 2015, 01:35 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
5,143 posts Joined: Jan 2015 |
QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Mar 15 2015, 01:22 PM) Thanks for your advice. I will be cashing out from all my RHB OSK unit trusts except for RHB-OSK China India Dynamic Growth Fund. For me, any fund house such as RHB-OSK that does not encourage investors to do regular portfolio rebalance by imposing switching fees and redemption fee is OUT. Investors should stay away from these type of fund houses if they are investing for the long run. Investors that are investing for the long run...does not do 'regular" portfolio rebalance...even if they do the rebalancing when they feel is the time, they may not be of the same fund house..... just a thought... |
|
|
Mar 15 2015, 01:40 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
62 posts Joined: Nov 2008 |
QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Mar 15 2015, 01:13 PM) Do you like gambling? To me, investing in AmPrecious is like rolling a dice. I had a small portfolio in this. I made about RM1k within a few weeks and got out. Now I am in again. Currently my gold portfolio value is down 10%. But as at 12th March 2015, Amprecious went up 3.37% in a day. It's interesting to know why or why not people choose amprecious. Thanks for the input!The summary here is if you can withstand a roller coaster ride and don't mind seeing your gold portfolio lose 6.23% of its value within 1 week with the hope of a rebound later, then AmPrecious is for you as a subsidiary portfolio. |
|
|
Mar 15 2015, 04:03 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
3,541 posts Joined: Mar 2015 |
QUOTE(T231H @ Mar 15 2015, 01:35 PM) Investors that are investing for the long run...does not do 'regular" portfolio rebalance...even if they do the rebalancing when they feel is the time, they may not be of the same fund house..... just a thought... I am not an expert in unit trust. But I strongly believe that portfolio rebalancing, whether done once every 3-4 months, once every 6 months or once a year is crucial for the success of any long term investment in unit trusts. Unit trusts is not blue chip dividend shares where we buy and hold the shares forever (to quote Warren Buffett). We need to manage the risks against the expected reward. For example, our asset allocation is 80% in equity unit trusts and 20% in bond funds. If after one year, our asset allocation drifts to 90% in equity unit trusts and 10% in bond funds, then we need to re-balance and sell off 10% of our equity funds and buy the bond funds. To avoid costs, we should transfer the profits into the same bond fund house to avoid paying the sales fees again when we switch back into the equity fund later. For eg. we will switch the profits from the Kenanga Growth fund into Kenanga Bond Fund. There are tons of books in the market on asset allocation and portfolio rebalancing. For serious long term investors who are investing for their children's education, retirement, etc. I find the following books extremely useful:- (1) The Four Pillars of Investing by William J. Bernstein (2) All About Asset Allocation by Richard Ferris To all the sifus here, I hope you will not laugh at me for providing such basic information above. |
|
|
Mar 15 2015, 06:24 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,639 posts Joined: Nov 2010 |
... no need to re-balance when it is 100% in equities.
I think there is too much talk in this thread on 'asset allocation'. Is it asset allocation meaning allocation on various sectors and/or countries, or is it bond/equity ratio? In the former, there is a school of thoughts that one should let it be ie. no rebalancing since you don't pull money out of a better growth sector to another lesser growth sector. In the later, yes since you are maintaining the bond/equity ratio which is a conservative/aggressive risk ratio. And the trimming is from equity to bond/money market funds... and not from equity to equity (and its reason is same as above.) And when it is a long term investment ... why not 100% in equities? Unless of course you want to trade... putting some into bond/money market for some switching in the next several months. But if we can forecast that within the next several months or within a year, that there will be a market crash or pullback, why not pull out all and put 100% in bond/money market fund now? Which we don't do, not because a market crash/pullback is not unexpected, but because the investment is a long term investment. If the long term investment is for retirement, and retirement is 15/20 years away, why the lesser than 100% in equities? Because you don't have complete faith in some of the funds you are holding? But that's the reason why asset allocation among various market sectors... and doing some thinking/analysis/research on what funds to have before purchasing them... |
|
|
|
|
|
Mar 15 2015, 07:36 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
5,143 posts Joined: Jan 2015 |
QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Mar 15 2015, 04:03 PM) Hi, I disagree with your view but that is the purpose of a forum, for members to exchange ideas and knowledge. very insightful...but I made a quick assumption....I am not an expert in unit trust. But I strongly believe that portfolio rebalancing, whether done once every 3-4 months, once every 6 months or once a year is crucial for the success of any long term investment in unit trusts. Unit trusts is not blue chip dividend shares where we buy and hold the shares forever (to quote Warren Buffett). We need to manage the risks against the expected reward. For example, our asset allocation is 80% in equity unit trusts and 20% in bond funds. If after one year, our asset allocation drifts to 90% in equity unit trusts and 10% in bond funds, then we need to re-balance and sell off 10% of our equity funds and buy the bond funds. To avoid costs, we should transfer the profits into the same bond fund house to avoid paying the sales fees again when we switch back into the equity fund later. For eg. we will switch the profits from the Kenanga Growth fund into Kenanga Bond Fund. There are tons of books in the market on asset allocation and portfolio rebalancing. For serious long term investors who are investing for their children's education, retirement, etc. I find the following books extremely useful:- (1) The Four Pillars of Investing by William J. Bernstein (2) All About Asset Allocation by Richard Ferris To all the sifus here, I hope you will not laugh at me for providing such basic information above. let say....using your example for discussion about the 80:20 thing invested with RM 100 000 at 80:20 (RM 80 000 : RM 20 000) 4 Fund houses ( assuming not all FH has the EQ fund that I liked (regions/global exposure/performance, etc) and also to have a diversification among FHs) therefore each about RM 20 000 EQ and RM 5000 FI per Fund house if EQ made 10% = RM 2000 profit....will shift out to bond why limit one self to only that fund house when the Sales charges of RM 2000 @ 2% = RM 40 ? if EQ profit is 10% = RM 8000...if switch this RM 8000 to other FH at 2%SC ...the SC is RM 160 that is only if invested with RM 100 000 if really want to "save*"...try UTs not.......the RM 100 000 AUM at 2% Mgmt + Misc fees is about RM 2000 per annum "rain or shine" even though we don't get to "see" it .... (* like reducing leakages, making invested monies more efficient in making monies, etc) This post has been edited by T231H: Mar 15 2015, 08:14 PM |
|
|
Mar 16 2015, 12:40 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
8,188 posts Joined: Apr 2013 |
|
|
|
Mar 16 2015, 10:41 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
567 posts Joined: Mar 2011 |
morning..
16 days to go.. |
|
|
Mar 16 2015, 12:31 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
8,188 posts Joined: Apr 2013 |
QUOTE(aurora97 @ Mar 14 2015, 04:16 PM) I think anyone who has invested in something would have been reaping some sort of return by now, unfortunately don't get too comfy with your investment yet... big iceberg coming... Sos Chili Any thoughts where to stash your investment next? US funds maybe??! Investing in a Rising Interest Rate Environment click on the pdf version for more charts and data http://www.affinhwangam.com/fund-managers-...nt#.VQZbEdKUfQQ |
|
|
Mar 16 2015, 03:24 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
8,259 posts Joined: Sep 2009 |
|
|
|
Mar 16 2015, 03:29 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
3,790 posts Joined: Aug 2007 |
QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 16 2015, 12:31 PM) Investing in a Rising Interest Rate Environment click on the pdf version for more charts and data http://www.affinhwangam.com/fund-managers-...nt#.VQZbEdKUfQQ But I will still be looking at market weakness in July 2015 to rejoin the UT market. |
|
|
Mar 16 2015, 03:50 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#615
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
808 posts Joined: Apr 2009 |
QUOTE(aurora97 @ Mar 16 2015, 03:29 PM) Doesn't matter already I already exit all my portfolio just purchased a property lolz... Weakness in property market and some good pre gst deals on the table. tipsy yo? But I will still be looking at market weakness in July 2015 to rejoin the UT market. This post has been edited by yck1987: Mar 16 2015, 03:51 PM |
|
|
|
|
|
Mar 16 2015, 03:59 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#616
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
808 posts Joined: Apr 2009 |
|
|
|
Mar 16 2015, 04:01 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
3,790 posts Joined: Aug 2007 |
QUOTE(yck1987 @ Mar 16 2015, 03:50 PM) It's all about the US interest rate hike. Just ltook at Q4 2014, one hint that US fed might raise interest rates... It global sell off happened.it took us months to recover, got worse becoz of oil prices. Imagine what if US fed decide to raise interest rate for real? I think it will be a massacre. my funds have been performing but slightly below expectation. |
|
|
Mar 16 2015, 04:49 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
48,589 posts Joined: Sep 2014 From: REality |
India's economy is doing better than its peers, with recent policy reforms and improved business confidence set to boost growth to 7.5 percent in the fiscal year that starts on April 1, IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde said
She welcomed the government's latest budget as "a step in the right direction" towards mid-term fiscal consolidation while praising plans for higher infrastructure spending. A pact between the government and the Reserve Bank of India to formalise inflation targeting "should provide a robust institutional foundation for maintaining price stability", said Lagarde. |
|
|
Mar 16 2015, 04:59 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#619
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
567 posts Joined: Mar 2011 |
|
|
|
Mar 16 2015, 05:04 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
All Stars
48,589 posts Joined: Sep 2014 From: REality |
|
|
|
Mar 16 2015, 05:31 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
8,259 posts Joined: Sep 2009 |
|
|
|
Mar 16 2015, 05:40 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
3,790 posts Joined: Aug 2007 |
QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 16 2015, 04:49 PM) India's economy is doing better than its peers, with recent policy reforms and improved business confidence set to boost growth to 7.5 percent in the fiscal year that starts on April 1, IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde said let me pour some cold water on that... indeed India is a market to watch But...She welcomed the government's latest budget as "a step in the right direction" towards mid-term fiscal consolidation while praising plans for higher infrastructure spending. A pact between the government and the Reserve Bank of India to formalise inflation targeting "should provide a robust institutional foundation for maintaining price stability", said Lagarde. India well prepared to face any interest rate hike by US: Lagarde http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/econom...icle6998540.ece India could face a selloff if US federal reserve increases interest rates Read more at: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articl..._campaign=cppst Am watching Manulife's India Equity Fund as well. |
|
Topic ClosedOptions
|
| Change to: | 0.0388sec
1.30
6 queries
GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 23rd December 2025 - 11:59 AM |