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post Apr 29 2015, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 29 2015, 08:33 PM)
If i do intra switching, do you think it is consider redemtion?
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yes, I think so...
same as last time I do RBH Bond intra switch...kena redemption charges too.
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post Apr 29 2015, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 29 2015, 09:11 PM)
How dare you ask Algozen™ for personal gain?  vmad.gif
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cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif was contemplating pulling out of the stock purchase program lol

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post Apr 29 2015, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Apr 29 2015, 09:49 PM)
Once you open a new thread, you can go to drink beer with your Viet friends already mah...
The only other responsibility of a TS is to delete troll/racist posts, but I haven't seen any in this thread.
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I think he is with Viets now!
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post Apr 29 2015, 09:22 PM

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Just check Bloomberg app.. portfolio blood bath!
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post Apr 29 2015, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 29 2015, 09:22 PM)
Just check Bloomberg app.. portfolio blood bath!
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ohmy.gif apa jadi
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post Apr 29 2015, 09:33 PM

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icon_question.gif I am confused here. I am in the middle of reading an article and saw this...

"Let's say you benchmark against the FBM KLCI, which is at 10%. If your fund is at 5%, you have already outperformed the benchmark, even though [your fund] is at 5%.Beating the benchmark can still mean negative returns".

can someone pls explain this statement in layman term?... notworthy.gif

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post Apr 29 2015, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(IvanWong1989 @ Apr 29 2015, 10:25 PM)
ohmy.gif apa jadi
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Today 90% of my funds in RED... shakehead.gif
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post Apr 29 2015, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 29 2015, 10:33 PM)
icon_question.gif  I am confused here. I am in the middle of reading an article and saw this...

"Let's say you benchmark against the FBM KLCI, which is at 10%. If your fund is at 5%, you have already outperformed the benchmark, even though [your fund] is at 5%.Beating the benchmark can still mean negative returns".

can someone pls explain this statement in layman term?...  notworthy.gif
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This is a trick question?

I am STEAM jor... tongue.gif
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post Apr 29 2015, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 29 2015, 09:33 PM)
icon_question.gif  I am confused here. I am in the middle of reading an article and saw this...

"Let's say you benchmark against the FBM KLCI, which is at 10%. If your fund is at 5%, you have already outperformed the benchmark, even though [your fund] is at 5%.Beating the benchmark can still mean negative returns".

can someone pls explain this statement in layman term?...  notworthy.gif
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Outperform the benchmark doesn't mean your fund must generate a positive return during the period of review.

It means that your fund is doing better than the benchmark it uses. Lower loss and/or lower volatility.

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post Apr 29 2015, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 29 2015, 09:37 PM)
Outperform the benchmark doesn't mean your fund must generate a positive return during the period of review.

It means that your fund is doing better than the benchmark it uses. Lower loss and/or lower volatility.
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the benchmark is 10% but the fund is only 5%. how can say outperform benchmark?
this is the confusing part for me....
pls elaborate....
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 29 2015, 09:41 PM)
the benchmark is 10% but the fund is only 5%. how can say outperform benchmark?
this is the confusing part for me....
pls elaborate....
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Can you put the link of your article here?
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post Apr 29 2015, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 29 2015, 09:42 PM)
Can you put the link of your article here?
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sure here it is.....
page 2, 5th paragraphs.....

https://www.kenangainvestors.com.my/KIB/KIB...ver%20Story.pdf

if TRUE, in this is how they interpret outperforming the benchmark......NO WONDER "MOST" Bolehland funds are out performing the benchmarks so frequently......?

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 29 2015, 09:46 PM)
sure here it is.....
page 2, 5th paragraphs.....

https://www.kenangainvestors.com.my/KIB/KIB...ver%20Story.pdf
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De Alwis also prefers to focus on coming up with new unit trust funds that look at absolute returns, instead
of relying on benchmarking as a performance indicator. Many unit trusts use benchmarks based on stock
or bond market indices. In contrast, funds that look at absolute returns are more concerned about the total
returns they receive from the assets they are invested in.

"Let's say you benchmark against the FBM KLCI, which is at 10%. If your fund is at 5%, you have already
outperformed the benchmark, even though [your fund] is at 5%.Beating the benchmark can still mean
negative returns.

"We have come to a stage where this generation of investors are educated and are not looking for
superstar funds or a one-year wonder. They just want it to be consistent. That is why we ensure that our
funds have [steady] three, five and 10year records."
He's trying to explaining the absolute return concept. Not sure what he meant but he's definitely missed some details in the example.

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post Apr 29 2015, 09:50 PM

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Pindah lar...
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3565625

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