Thanks. No I won't expect air cond

If the coffee shop owned by old uncle aunty, trust me these are the kiam siap one. Die die also won't move

Someone mentioned arroyo first
BTW u should ask the sales person

I asked and they told me mine maybe October

Yes but give and take also that would be 10 years min
Old ppl retire d give to the kids also die die maintain same shop one.

And when talk about really good food this are the one never bother to move away for fear of losing customers

It doesn't mean when new shoplots open must move there. These business ppl when take the rent into question will refuse to move already.

Look at Seri kembangan, look at ipoh old town.

If it is entirely new biz, yes probably I will setup new place but if it is existing one, inheritance or something... The answer will likely no

Btw, yes maybe I am young. 5 years from now, i don't intend to open business.
But if I did, it will definitely be in new shoplot.
But if I take out my calculator and count the rent, I would probably bet it is risky to open in new place.

End of day, not every shop will thrive in new areas due to the rent.

If the shoplot is expensive (over 1.5m), how much rent is expected, factor that in, the services/food has to be expensive already.

But if one is confident he can pull through, yes can try. Me? I no confident...

If I already have existing shop in old town, it gives me no reason to move.

If I opening new shop, maybe I will give a try.

This post has been edited by robert82: Mar 6 2015, 10:34 PM

I think u can expect earlier for terrace

Someone said arroyo in June
So I assume terrace in August Sept maybe
Mine he said October

if talking about the shift of the center. We shall wait and see.
I thought when we talked initially, we were referring to my old coffee shops...

one thing i have to agree with BBW, the price is a little illogical atm. (I am referring to new shoplots).
but if ride the storm, one shall reap the profits.


This post has been edited by robert82: Mar 6 2015, 10:43 PM

i have no doubt the shoplots will thrive in years to come and the center may shift to the new area.
But i have doubts if it is the coffee shops moving to new place.

New coffee shops may open, but old coffee shops, unless their shop/land is taken back by government for whatever reason may not want to move at all.

i agree we should look at overall picture rather than coffee shop.
But when i initially state my point, it is based on just coffee shop, and that's why i said likely the existing one won't move.

If you talk about Banks, Clinics, 7-11 etc, these I have no doubt will go to new shoplots.

Must see the context and type of businesses, not all can afford to charge high price and thrive...

not sure if sarcastic or not.
But i already said lo, if it is good, ppl will keep going back if it doesn't move.

progress photo uploaded!

if u dont want to wake up early, u won't buy there.
Muslims may want it though.

i think for those in P2 & P3, the house can actually park 4 cars, 2 at the front and 2 at the back...

er, think so.

2 side by side at the front
2 side by side blocking the other 2 at the back.

in a grid, it is 2x2 formation...

i get what you meant.
the only thing i am unhappy with is the car porch roof too short to even cover full length of the first 2 cars.

Sure ah?
I look see look see also doubt and worry can’t open door.

Later I buy 2 S-Class how woh…
Need to buy arroyo liao

Terrace still ok, apply then can do extension liao.
P2, P3 can go die, got money also cannot reno the roof extension…

I got ask the SA la.
She said now latest design all like this.
I said, stupid design.

Lmao, you win liao loh

i might consider glass awning.
Not sure if this will pass...

retractable bo sui la.
glass awning sui sui.

if need to get approval die die push for it...

i see so many times also i don't think can fit 3 cars.
count only tiled area la wei