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Boon3
post Mar 12 2015, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Mar 12 2015, 09:37 PM)
you dunno never mind, he know enough liao  tongue.gif
just borrowing your word~
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simply borrow here and there .... have to pay tax one you know.

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post Mar 12 2015, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 12 2015, 09:48 PM)
simply borrow here and there .... have to pay tax one you know.

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boon gor can earn that easily no need tax me this ikan bilis la tongue.gif
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post Mar 12 2015, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 12 2015, 09:48 PM)
simply borrow here and there .... have to pay tax one you know.

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MoneyMaker prince
post Mar 13 2015, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 12 2015, 08:02 PM)
Would that then be defined as an opportunity?
anyway .....
'hold if fundamentals are still good' got different meanings one leh...
some hold the stock... cos they feel the stock is worth more.....

on the other hand...
some could have bought the stock at the wrong price....
and because they bought at a high price...
they feel they are compelled to hold the stock...
since they feel 'fundamentally the company is still good'.....
so they hold and hope their 'investment' recover.
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How do we know if a company fundamental is not good anymore and we shouldn't hold it any longer? What are the ratio/paramenters that we should look at? ROE? Free cash flow?
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post Mar 13 2015, 08:28 AM

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How to be a millionaire through penny stocks:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...stock-financing

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Boon3
post Mar 13 2015, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(MoneyMaker prince @ Mar 13 2015, 08:25 AM)
How do we know if a company fundamental is not good anymore and we shouldn't hold it any longer? What are the ratio/paramenters that we should look at? ROE? Free cash flow?
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Yes, some, investors, do look at ratios, like ROE.
some look at profit margins.
some look at profit growth.

for them, as long as the ratios do not deteriorate drastically, they will maintain the company as still strong.

for example, during the tech boom, some companies were growing at 20% growth yearly.
Which such a growth, the company was expected to make more money year.
Hence, the market was willing to pay a higher pe premium for the stock.
when the growth stopped (and in fact, some turned into losses), the market sold these stocks off...
cause these high flying companies weren't going to make such good money any more.
the fundamentals changed.
the boom was gone...

in a sense, we saw this happened exactly with our OnG stocks....

that's what I know ...
however, since I am a trader...
you better not take my words as the holy gospel....

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post Mar 13 2015, 09:39 AM

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Somebody goreng pwroot again flex.gif

WontonMi losing steam hmm.gif

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post Mar 13 2015, 09:56 AM

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woonsc you diam diam goreng pwroot a?
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post Mar 13 2015, 10:01 AM

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post Mar 13 2015, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 12 2015, 07:51 PM)
If no quick profits why you want to be in so early? tongue.gif
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I am not interested in 'quick' profits..

I am in got the longer term.. flex.gif

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post Mar 13 2015, 10:05 AM

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post Mar 13 2015, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 13 2015, 10:01 AM)
Tempted to top up DiGi hmm.gif
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digi got lenglui supply? ur lenglui pointing at herself leh. tongue.gif
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post Mar 13 2015, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 12 2015, 08:30 PM)
Huh?
This is a new type of opportunity cost. LOL!
huh?
no wrong price?

Can just buy any good stock at any price and just hold the stock?

So gark, I tell you stocks is so easy to make money.

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Technically ... if you bought good fundamental stocks at the wrong price, you might NOT lose if you keep for a long long time, BUT your profit margin and compounded gain will be severely hampered.

If you enter at very very very wrong price, sometimes even the good fundamentals can't help you.. you might do worse than FD. tongue.gif

Now.. if you enter at ANY price at weak stocks, high chance that can say bye bye to your $$$ wink.gif
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post Mar 13 2015, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(MoneyMaker prince @ Mar 13 2015, 08:25 AM)
How do we know if a company fundamental is not good anymore and we shouldn't hold it any longer? What are the ratio/paramenters that we should look at? ROE? Free cash flow?
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I would say PRIMARY we look at FUTURE profit growth OR stability (in case of divvy stocks).. wink.gif

No use looking at past or present situation, stock investing is all about anticipation of the FUTURE. laugh.gif

That what makes it hard to SCORE.. sweat.gif

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post Mar 13 2015, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2015, 10:09 AM)
I would say PRIMARY we look at FUTURE profit growth OR stability (in case of divvy stocks)..  wink.gif

No use looking at past or present situation, stock investing is all about anticipation of the FUTURE.  laugh.gif

That what makes it hard to SCORE..  sweat.gif
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Speaking of SCORE, what do you think of the SCORE in Sarawak?
I am eying Sarawak-based stocks...
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post Mar 13 2015, 10:15 AM

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but ah. for some divvy stocks ah. dividends punya percentage macam lower than fd, i mean the yield la. so i wondering should put money into the divvy stocks and wait for the capital gain or nt. sometimes macam put in fd better. lol
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post Mar 13 2015, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Mar 13 2015, 10:15 AM)
Speaking of SCORE, what do you think of the SCORE in Sarawak?
I am eying Sarawak-based stocks...
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Chief benefactor of SCORE is CMS ... as long as pek moh still lives.. ok geh.. laugh.gif
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post Mar 13 2015, 10:25 AM

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post Mar 13 2015, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Carls_Nemesis @ Mar 13 2015, 10:15 AM)
but ah. for some divvy stocks ah. dividends punya percentage macam lower than fd, i mean the yield la. so i wondering should put money into the divvy stocks and wait for the capital gain or nt. sometimes macam put in fd better. lol
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Ah.. for divvy stocks you are not just looking at dividend yield %, but chiefly at dividend GROWTH %..

Your divvy stocks dividend grows every years... FD do not.. icon_idea.gif AND if the dividend is growing every year, the stock will too.. icon_rolleyes.gif

If a stock with stable dividend.. i will only look at it if DY% > FD + X%

if a stock with growing dividend.. i will only look if DY%+DG% > FD + X%

Just a simple guideline.. X % you have to determine yourself depending on your risk tolerance wink.gif

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Boon3
post Mar 13 2015, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 13 2015, 10:04 AM)
I am not interested in 'quick' profits..

I am in got the longer term..  flex.gif

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.... yes... longer term..... LOL!


so why rush?

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