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BBPeformance
post Jun 9 2015, 06:43 PM

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Bro,

Regarding the approval do we necessarily apply for CF ?
what is the impact if we get CF or not ?

thanks

Yee Leng
post Jun 16 2015, 03:41 PM

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Hi, I am looking for someone to draw the architectural drawing and engineering plan for the house renovation in Klang for submission to Klang Town Council. Any good recommendation?
TShaikalraihan
post Jul 12 2015, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(BBPeformance @ Jun 9 2015, 06:43 PM)
Bro,

Regarding the approval do we necessarily apply for CF ?
what is the impact if we get CF or not ?

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Hi..what kind of extension are u doing?area? depends on Majlis. Some Majlis require CCC from architect and some only require for extension above 1000sqft. Basically, CCC/CF can increase your house value.

QUOTE(Yee Leng @ Jun 16 2015, 03:41 PM)
Hi, I am looking for someone to draw the architectural drawing and engineering plan for the house renovation in Klang for submission to Klang Town Council. Any good recommendation?
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AlfredCKH
post Jul 13 2015, 02:32 PM

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Hi Bro,

Could you provide me some contacts for drawing and renovation plan in Kota Damansara Area? any recommendation?
Thanks!
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post Jul 14 2015, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(AlfredCKH @ Jul 13 2015, 02:32 PM)
Hi Bro,

Could you provide me some contacts for drawing and renovation plan in Kota Damansara Area? any recommendation?
Thanks!
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Hi Alfred,

Let me know if you got some contacts for kota damansara terrace house drawing as well.

I am looking for one too, thanks !
ginko15
post Jul 14 2015, 01:46 PM

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Lets say if I want to extend my Master Bedroom till the balcony only , which in this case involve hacking of the interior wall only, do I need approval from the local council ?
TShaikalraihan
post Jul 14 2015, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(AlfredCKH @ Jul 13 2015, 02:32 PM)
Hi Bro,

Could you provide me some contacts for drawing and renovation plan in Kota Damansara Area? any recommendation?
Thanks!
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QUOTE(commtrader @ Jul 14 2015, 08:38 AM)
Hi Alfred,

Let me know if you got some contacts for kota damansara terrace house drawing as well.

I am looking for one too, thanks !
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QUOTE(ginko15 @ Jul 14 2015, 01:46 PM)
Lets say if I want to extend my Master Bedroom till the balcony only , which in this case involve hacking of the interior wall only, do I need approval from the local council  ?
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Yes, consider as extension and u need to hire architect & engineer.
drfauzims
post Jul 21 2015, 02:45 AM

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QUOTE(haikalraihan @ Feb 5 2015, 02:26 PM)
How to get the approval of building plans and work permits

1. Owner must finalize the design of renovation before hire someone to do a submission
2. If contractor volunteer to do the submission, ask them which architect/building draughtman they use and LAM Registered No.
3. If necessary, owner must hire an engineer to do some calculation, report and structure drawing. (depends on Local Authorities)
4. Owner must prepare some documents for submission such as cukai taksiran, S&P, existing CF etc.
5. Consultation fees :-

RM2500-RM3000 includes Architect endorsement, site survey, building plan drawing, documentation and traveling.

Owner must prepare some cash around RM1000-RM2000 for deposit, processing fees, tong RORO (construction waste bin) depends on scale of renovation. Deposit will be returned when construction is completed. But for DBKL, no deposit required. Just pay RM100 for renovation less than 1000sqft (CODE B2)

6. Approval/Work Permit usually takes about 7-30days depends on ‘Piagam Pelanggan’ from Local Authorities.

Additional Info:-

Basic building setback for terrace :-
a) front - 20' clear from wall to boundary (main gate)
b) back - can extend to end of boundary
c) side (corner lot) - 10' clear from wall to boundary
d) side (end lot) - 5' clear from wall to boundary

The different thing between architect and building draughtsman (BD) is , BD are limited to specifying area only and the fees therefore a bit cheaper than architect.

Do not pay to enforcement if they ask for ‘kawtim’. Report to Local Authorities if happen.

Do not start work before get an approval/work permit. If not, you will be fined as much as 10x depends on your processing fees.

Do not trust contractor if they can ‘kawtim’ with Local Authorities. Some of them didn’t do a submission and if caught, owner will be responsible.

Architect is the person who will be responsible for the probability of future. They knows about UBBL and buildings.

Just pay a little bit for pleasure in the future...

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Just finished renovation without permit. Need approval for that renovation. Just read the manual in DBKL need 6 m for wall (second floor) to gate but mine is 2m. Can you help?
drfauzims
post Jul 21 2015, 12:15 PM

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I have renovation and the setback not following the law. Should I knock back the front wall and side walls to meet the set back and make current room smaller or I just replace with tempered glass? I need architect to submit plan to make it legal.
Cheras DBKL

This post has been edited by drfauzims: Jul 21 2015, 12:16 PM
kutitata
post Jul 22 2015, 06:48 AM

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QUOTE(kekura @ Apr 29 2015, 10:18 AM)
hi. what if the semi-D has no backlane, but there is a 10' ground at the back before a wall that divide the other house. Can still extend max to boundary?
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I have the same question, what if the semi-d has no backlane but there is a 10' ground at the back before the wall, can we extend max to boundary?

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post Jul 22 2015, 05:28 PM

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Any known limitation on width of gate for 20' house? MPK informed me that the 'kebuk sampah' a.k.a. rubbish box has to be within the pillar somewhere but according to the standard plan book, the width of the gate can't be more than 10' sad.gif
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post Jul 26 2015, 05:22 PM

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want to extend my kitchen at bukit jalil area. please pm me contact for the architect ya. thanks!
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post Jul 27 2015, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(drfauzims @ Jul 21 2015, 12:15 PM)
I have renovation and the setback not following the law. Should I knock back the front wall and side walls to meet the set back and make current room smaller or I just replace with tempered glass? I need architect to submit plan to make it legal.
Cheras DBKL
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Yes, u need to demolish front wall to 20' (6.096m) for setback. Or u can make rayuan to DBKL for as-built drawing and pay penalty 20x from processing fees.

QUOTE(kutitata @ Jul 22 2015, 06:48 AM)
I have the same question, what if the semi-d has no backlane but there is a 10' ground at the back before the wall, can we extend max to boundary?
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For semi-D with no backlane u can extend only 5' and another 5' reserve for building setback.

QUOTE(Archronicles @ Jul 22 2015, 05:28 PM)
Any known limitation on width of gate for 20' house? MPK informed me that the 'kebuk sampah' a.k.a. rubbish box has to be within the pillar somewhere but according to the standard plan book, the width of the gate can't be more than 10' sad.gif
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Yes, kebuk sampah has to be within the main gate pillar. if u demolish that box to make ur gate wide, u need to submit rayuan to Perbadanan Pengurusan Sisa Pepejal Dan Pembersihan Awam (PPSPPA).

QUOTE(pain_pain @ Jul 26 2015, 05:22 PM)
want to extend my kitchen at bukit jalil area. please pm me contact for the architect ya. thanks!
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Archronicles
post Jul 27 2015, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(haikalraihan @ Jul 27 2015, 01:18 PM)
Yes, kebuk sampah has to be within the main gate pillar. if u demolish that box to make ur gate wide, u need to submit rayuan to Perbadanan Pengurusan Sisa Pepejal Dan Pembersihan Awam (PPSPPA).
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Bro, any idea of any known limitations of making the gate wider? And can the Syabas water meter be relocated?
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post Jul 28 2015, 10:50 PM

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Hi Bro

I need your professional advice. My house just completed the renovation.
I went to MBSJ to apply for CF and also claimed the deposit RM1000 which I paid for renovation plan submitted for approval earlier.
However, the MBSJ OIC informed me to let my architect handle it and do not want to liaise with me.

My architect told me he will charge another RM350 for applying CF for me and he cannot guarantee that I will get the CF orthe deposit will return because based on his experience, MBSJ officer will give all kind of excuses to stop us from getting back our deposit, e.g. the wall is different by 1 or 2 inch from the plan.
But he guarantee me that I will not have any issue when selling house in the future.

MY question is
1. What are the potential issues for house without CF after renovation (e.g.:Back extention 10sqft).
2. Is that true that it is difficult to get the CG and deposit even though I have follow the proper way to submit renovation plan before renovation?
As my architect has been trying to convince me to forgone the RM1000 deposit so that I can save the additional RM350 and the hassle to prepare the documents?

Really appreciate if you can resolve my inquiry. Many thanks in advance
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post Jul 31 2015, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Archronicles @ Jul 27 2015, 02:24 PM)
Bro, any idea of any known limitations of making the gate wider? And can the Syabas water meter be relocated?
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Yes u can. but u need to submit your rayuan and location plan for new meter to Syabas.

QUOTE(xiaoniao1112 @ Jul 28 2015, 10:50 PM)
Hi Bro

I need your professional advice. My house just completed the renovation.
I went to MBSJ to apply for CF and also claimed the deposit RM1000 which I paid for renovation plan submitted for approval earlier.
However, the MBSJ OIC informed me to let my architect handle it and do not want to liaise with me.

My architect told me he will charge another RM350 for applying CF for me and he cannot guarantee that I will get the CF orthe deposit will return because based on his experience, MBSJ officer will give all kind of excuses to stop us from getting back our deposit, e.g. the wall is different by 1 or 2 inch from the plan.
But he guarantee me that I will not have any issue when selling house in the future.

MY question is
1. What are the potential issues  for house without CF after renovation (e.g.:Back extention 10sqft).
2. Is that true that it is difficult to get the CG and deposit even though I have follow the proper way to submit renovation plan before renovation?
As my architect  has been trying to convince me to forgone the RM1000 deposit so that I can save the additional RM350 and the hassle to prepare the documents?

Really appreciate if you can resolve my inquiry. Many thanks in advance
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My first question - what kind of extension r u doing?base on my experience liaise with MBPJ, deposit for house renovation only Rm100 not RM1000.

Since 2007, CCC are implemented to replace CF.

Normally architect will prepare documents for CCC including Borang B, Borang G1-G21 (Contractor need to sign this form). Your architect knows about this.

CCC are important when something happen to your house. Insurance agent will come to your house and inspect whether your new extension build as per drawing or not.


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post Jul 31 2015, 11:40 AM

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Bro, what about gate width limitation for a 20' house?
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post Aug 1 2015, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(haikalraihan @ Jul 31 2015, 11:06 AM)
My first question - what kind of extension r u doing?base on my experience liaise with MBPJ, deposit for house renovation only Rm100 not RM1000.

Since 2007, CCC are implemented to replace CF.

Normally architect will prepare documents for CCC including Borang B, Borang G1-G21 (Contractor need to sign this form). Your architect knows about this.

CCC are important when something happen to your house. Insurance agent will come to your house and inspect whether your new extension build as per drawing or not.
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Thanks for your reply!

Full Extension of backyard, and made it become wet kitchen and toilet.
Exiting toilet's wall has been demolish. The original layout was change.
My contractor did follow the layout of the drawing plan, however, the size is not right.
E.g. Width of the kitchen should be 13 ft as per drawing plan, He made it became 14.5 ft when it was built up. Will it become an issue when we want to get CCC or claimed my deposit?

Architect did pass the receipt to me, RM1000 deposit was paid to MBSJ.

If without CCC, it will only affect insurance claim? Anything else will be affected?
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post Aug 13 2015, 01:23 PM

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I am applying permit from MPSJ for renovation. The renovation involves extend backyard, extent the side near the front door.

Here are the charges:
1) RM2800 for draft man
2) RM300 for retrieving the CF by official
3) RM1800 for submission to MPSJ

I have been told that there is no refund from the payment above.

Is that normal?
agasthia
post Aug 16 2015, 02:33 AM

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Any recommendation or where can we get the list of companies who does drawing, drawing in 3d, Architectural ,,draftsman and engineering company for DBKL
thank you in advance..

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