Hi Sifus,

We recently bought a sub-sale 20year old end lot terrace house. Situation is that ex-owner has lost the CF.

We can tell from the original plans given that extension has been done to the back of the house (all the way to the boundary line).

How do we go about getting the CCC and will we get fine? Is there some 'waiver' given if we have just taken over the house and show that extension was done by previous owner?

Appreciate recommendation from those who know of persons/architects I can contact for quotes on how to get this done. My house falls under MPPJ

Also, need advise on setback.
My house has a 5ft side garden. Is my understanding correct that I must leave this 5ft as garden and cannot extend all the way to the end of the boundary?
I am asking because my nieghbour (mirror unit) extended the 2nd back half of the house all the way to the boundary.

This afternoon I went to a client's place at BU terrace house area, saw the end lots are mostly done to the boundary...means like wall - 10ft road - wall... maybe you can check with MBPJ see if they have standard plans. Just go to the annexe building first floor and have a look at the standard plans on display...otherwise ask them.

Hi,

Just curious. Planning to do extension [ground floor only] at the back of the house [Semi-D, no road at the back].

Neighbor houses done similar renovation [they did both ground and top floor].

I went and asked them regarding their planning and permit application. They mentioned that most of the owner in that area did not apply for one. They told that if Majlis personnel come and check or anything just pay fine and it's done [though so far no issue, been 12 years since they did renovation]. Talked to two more neighbor, same response [though one got fined RM300 and that's it].

My question is supposedly we want to do extension but it's not going to be allowed, is it safe to continue as per what the neighbor did? If it helps, location is Kluang, Johor.

Layout of the house as below:
Blue Line = Property Edge [Fences etc]
Red Line = Built Up Size
Green Line = Planned Extension [About 7-8 ft wide]
Orange Arrow = The road in front of the house

Any help is appreciated.

Thank you.

You should do it the legal way. Sooner or later the town council they'll come chasing.

This happened in my area:

http://www.thestar.com.my/metro/community/...urther-delayed/

StarMetro reported (“Chance to legalise illegal renovations”, Feb 18) that from March 1, MPSJ was giving houseowners a one-year grace period to submit their plans.

This means those who have not submitted renovation plans to the council are exempted from the penalty, which is 10 times the processing fee.

Property owners will still have to pay the plan processing fee, which ranges from RM100 to RM1,000 depending on the extension, and compound arrears.

You should do it the legal way. Sooner or later the town council they'll come chasing.

This happened in my area:

http://www.thestar.com.my/metro/community/...urther-delayed/

StarMetro reported (“Chance to legalise illegal renovations”, Feb 18) that from March 1, MPSJ was giving houseowners a one-year grace period to submit their plans.

This means those who have not submitted renovation plans to the council are exempted from the penalty, which is 10 times the processing fee.

Property owners will still have to pay the plan processing fee, which ranges from RM100 to RM1,000 depending on the extension, and compound arrears.

Hi,

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

I've talked with my parents and decided to draw and submit the plan [better safe than sorry]. Apparently, my dad's friend is close with a person who used to own a house there and the extended their house to the edge [legally].

So, will be asking them for the person they were in contact with.

Just curious, typically what are the costs involved in drawing a plan, to submission and approval?

And should the plan not pass, then it's best to leave it as it is?

Thank you.

Yeah it's better to be safe than sorry.

This is what I was quoted:

Plan drawing - RM2,500
MPSJ permit - RM 1,000
CCC approval - RM 1,000

There shouldn't be any issues with getting the plan approved. As long as it's within the limitations set by your local council.

Hi,

Apologies for the late reply.

Regarding the plan drawing; can we draw and get approval in advance, then build when we have the money? Any issues in getting the plan approval earlier, let's say 6 months to a year earlier?

And obtaining those MPSJ permit and CCC approval, would that be done by the architect as well?

Thank you.

Hi,

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

I've talked with my parents and decided to draw and submit the plan [better safe than sorry]. Apparently, my dad's friend is close with a person who used to own a house there and the extended their house to the edge [legally].

So, will be asking them for the person they were in contact with.

Just curious, typically what are the costs involved in drawing a plan, to submission and approval?

And should the plan not pass, then it's best to leave it as it is?

Thank you.

Hi,

Apologies for the late reply.

Regarding the plan drawing; can we draw and get approval in advance, then build when we have the money? Any issues in getting the plan approval earlier, let's say 6 months to a year earlier?

And obtaining those MPSJ permit and CCC approval, would that be done by the architect as well?

Thank you.

Hi all,

Need advice on this reno. I've a 5ft yard behind my 20x70 double storey house in Puchong (MPSJ), I plan to do the following without demolish/knock down any existing kitchen wall.

1. Remove yard fencing and install 5.5ft brick wall.
2. Titles on floor
3. install a 3ft grill on top of the wall
4. Awning to cover up the whole area
5. Additional power point.

from the above reno, do I need to apply any house extension permit from the local authority?

Thanks in advance.

How to get the approval of building plans and work permits

1. Owner must finalize the design of renovation before hire someone to do a submission
2. If contractor volunteer to do the submission, ask them which architect/building draughtman they use and LAM Registered No.
3. If necessary, owner must hire an engineer to do some calculation, report and structure drawing. (depends on Local Authorities)
4. Owner must prepare some documents for submission such as cukai taksiran, S&P, existing CF etc.
5. Consultation fees :-

RM2500-RM3000 includes Architect endorsement, site survey, building plan drawing, documentation and traveling.

Hi there, can you PM your contact number?? May need your services.

Owner must prepare some cash around RM1000-RM2000 for deposit, processing fees, tong RORO (construction waste bin) depends on scale of renovation. Deposit will be returned when construction is completed. But for DBKL, no deposit required. Just pay RM100 for renovation less than 1000sqft (CODE B2)

6. Approval/Work Permit usually takes about 7-30days depends on ‘Piagam Pelanggan’ from Local Authorities.

Additional Info:-

Basic building setback for terrace :-
a) front - 20' clear from wall to boundary (main gate)
b) back - can extend to end of boundary
c) side (corner lot) - 10' clear from wall to boundary
d) side (end lot) - 5' clear from wall to boundary

The different thing between architect and building draughtsman (BD) is , BD are limited to specifying area only and the fees therefore a bit cheaper than architect.

Do not pay to enforcement if they ask for ‘kawtim’. Report to Local Authorities if happen.

Do not start work before get an approval/work permit. If not, you will be fined as much as 10x depends on your processing fees.

Do not trust contractor if they can ‘kawtim’ with Local Authorities. Some of them didn’t do a submission and if caught, owner will be responsible.

Architect is the person who will be responsible for the probability of future. They knows about UBBL and buildings.

Just pay a little bit for pleasure in the future...

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hi, need some help plan to extend kitchen
5ft from backyard witin boundary of 24x75 with concrete
flat roof only groud floor intermediate lot double story house.

can i use mbsa standard layout for apply permit?
so can save some money no need hire people draw. can i draw myself?using autocad?
thanks you for assistance

yesterday went to mbsa collect the rm50 form for permit application. said can use mbsa standard layout. i asked i plan extend kitchen concrete slab roof can use mbsa standard layout. said cannot but you can build the conventional roof on top of the concrete flat roof and use their std layout. anyone done before? how much it cost to build those std roof on top of concrete flat roof. thanks