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post Sep 9 2015, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 9 2015, 09:55 AM)
It doesn't have any relationship between GST and public shareholding.

Right issue to raise capital is not subjected to GST.
Just like IPO, there is no GST.

But if you use the new issuance unit as a form of payment, then yes GST still applied.
This is to prevent a loop hole in GST that can be exploited.
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No, I meant the management company/holding company might not wanna hold too much of the REIT units
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post Sep 9 2015, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 9 2015, 09:57 AM)
If a Reit can't claim 100% of input tax due to mixed suppliers status, the unclaimed portion will b absorb as exp
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Yes, that's true.

I don't know what is issue raised behind of the statement, that's why I guess it is about the issuance of unit to pay for manager fee.

As in ordinary sense on issuance new unit for capital, it doesn't attract GST.

So this need to be sort out between Reit manager and Custom.
As in term of tax perspective, it must attract GST if the issuance of new unit as a form of payment, which is fair stand by Custom pov.

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post Sep 9 2015, 11:47 AM

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what is the "ok" price to go in for igbreit?
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Sep 9 2015, 11:47 AM)
what is the "ok" price to go in for igbreit?
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What is the "ok" dividend yield for u?

U can safely assume 7.2 sen net dividend (that's the latest 12-months net dividend)

Current is 5.5% net yield at RM1.30

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 9 2015, 11:51 AM)
What is the "ok" dividend yield for u?

U can safely assume 7.2 sen net dividend (that's the latest 12-months net dividend)

Current is 5.5% net yield at RM1.30
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seems good enough. thanks.
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post Sep 9 2015, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 9 2015, 11:51 AM)
What is the "ok" dividend yield for u?

U can safely assume 7.2 sen net dividend (that's the latest 12-months net dividend)

Current is 5.5% net yield at RM1.30
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QUOTE(cwhong @ Sep 9 2015, 12:08 PM)
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post Sep 9 2015, 12:32 PM

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Afternoon guys, I am new to MRCB-Quill REIT and did not follow much on this REIT, noted on its high yield. Can share any take on this particular REIT's prospect and also its management integrity? any idea how does the REIT plans to pare down its 44% gearing level?
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QUOTE(Orang Sabah @ Sep 9 2015, 12:32 PM)
Afternoon guys, I am new to MRCB-Quill REIT and did not follow much on this REIT, noted on its high yield. Can share any take on this particular REIT's prospect and also its management integrity? any idea how does the REIT plans to pare down its 44% gearing level?
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Go its website see what are its properties.
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post Sep 9 2015, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 9 2015, 12:38 PM)
Go its website see what are its properties.
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post Sep 9 2015, 05:55 PM

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bought pavreit ytday 1.41, today 1.52 . if sell off can get 7% contra gain lol. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Sep 9 2015, 05:55 PM)
bought pavreit ytday 1.41, today 1.52 . if sell off can get 7% contra gain lol. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 9 2015, 10:03 AM)
Yes, that's true.

I don't know what is issue raised behind of the statement, that's why I guess it is about the issuance of unit to pay for manager fee.

As in ordinary sense on issuance new unit for capital, it doesn't attract GST.

So this need to be sort out between Reit manager and Custom.
As in term of tax perspective, it must attract GST if the issuance of new unit as a form of payment, which is fair stand by Custom pov.
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My take on this:

1. SUNREIT's business operations is mostly standard rated (hotel, retail office).
2. By issuing units to a supplier (REIT manager), this would constitute as an exempt supply as per Customs (Refer to Guide on Fund Management).
3. If you have exempt supplies, that means any related input-tax incurred in generating/providing those exempt supplies can not be claimed, hence will charged out to P&L as an expense. This reduces the distribution to unit holder's.
4. I think it is too much of a hassle (paper work - messing around with tax invoices and normal invoices, contra notes, transfer applications and cashflow) to bother with two types of supplies. This distracts you from focusing on the standard rated operations and getting more profits to distribute out.


The following is the final para obtained from 2015 AR from CEO statement.

"The Manager will reduce the payment of Manager’s fees in the form of new units, from 50% to 25% in FY2016 and shall cease payment of Manager’s fees in the form of new units in FY2017. In all, we endeavour to deliver stable growth in distribution per unit in FY2016. "

I guess based on that statement they should be almost done negotiating with Customs. Ideally they should be proposing for the change in treatment for issuing units from being a "tax exempt" supply to become a "zero rated" supply. If that materializes, then everyone will benefit.

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 9 2015, 06:04 PM)
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Sep 9 2015, 05:55 PM)
bought pavreit ytday 1.41, today 1.52 . if sell off can get 7% contra gain lol. biggrin.gif
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Closing sell price yesterday 1.47 smile.gif

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in b4 it's a CRIME to trade REITs tongue.gif
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post Sep 10 2015, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 10 2015, 01:09 AM)
Closing sell price yesterday 1.47  smile.gif
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hmm lets see today's opening sell queue. currently at 1.51. i queued at 1.52.
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Sep 10 2015, 09:30 AM)
hmm lets see today's opening sell queue. currently at 1.51. i queued at 1.52.
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and buyback below 1.45? brows.gif
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Sep 10 2015, 09:30 AM)
hmm lets see today's opening sell queue. currently at 1.51. i queued at 1.52.
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True... but if you want to value a stock you own, you should use the buy queue because that is the price you can immediately sell it for smile.gif

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Buy queue is buyers that are WAITING
If u are not desperate to sell immediately, u can always queue at sell
Desperate buyers will come to u

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