would you mind to shut up please, he is asking for protestant church and protestant church does not limited to traditional churches only it does include charismatic churches as well.....although not under the same doctrine but still they are considered protestant church

ok back to hillsong topics, i might be going but i might opting for PS1 instead since it's a numbered seating, compared to PS3 and PS2 wanted to know anyone who is going? and which seating are you taking?

I'm praying for extra budget to go.

which means you are opting for PS3?

bro, when ppl asking protestant church, imho it refers to traditional church protestant but not roman catholic
put it bluntly, the church that does not speak tongue in public or like prophetjul say: no babbling please in public

i don't think there is traditional charismatic nor traditional pentecostal.

I stand to be corrected.

i am still in dilemma either to buy or not since i might not have transport to go back home

will need to pray hard about it and also for the tickets

for sure better go with friends.

ask your methodist kaki lah.

And then I become the disliked person here? I beginning to feel a lot of brotherly love here.

What i am saying is this...there are a lot of people in this world that make mistakes in life...some drug addicts, some prostituts, some murderers. Am I to say, just because i made one mistake...of moaning and groaning, i forever lost the frenship n respect of you guys here?

How are you going to have mercy for the people worst than me, if you just like treat me like this?

Or i can just destroy this account...thank goodness I didn't personally meet any one of you, or else the worst memory of you guys got of me, is still etched in your minds.

I find de1929 changed a lot, tried inviting him back here via PM.

Can see he's still stubborn.

And then I become the disliked person here? I beginning to feel a lot of brotherly love here.

What i am saying is this...there are a lot of people in this world that make mistakes in life...some drug addicts, some prostituts, some murderers. Am I to say, just because i made one mistake...of moaning and groaning, i forever lost the frenship n respect of you guys here?

How are you going to have mercy for the people worst than me, if you just like treat me like this?

Or i can just destroy this account...thank goodness I didn't personally meet any one of you, or else the worst memory of you guys got of me, is still etched in your minds.

You mean the people I know around me?

Or you mean to participate in social services?

I dunno.

What is it that you think I dun realize?

Not really....the dude name is Velocity. I believe he used to be a guy name Aspire 2006...always hanging around certain forums to bash people with relationship problems and he would try to boast how great he is in satisfying women needs, and his business he is trying to grow.

The thing is, when he said all those things, I realized how lost he is, deep into the world. Thats why I feel so sorry for him, lost sheep, I really felt a great need of love for this guy. I may be unker, but yeah an unker who lost someone dear to him...but unker still has Jesus to fill his heart, Unker will live on for eternity Amen. Unker Kron just feel for the people of this world love the world so badly, who is going to be sucked down the pit of sin....

Hmm good idea about sharing Jesus with him, when i have the chance...the thing is, the guy likes to report me, would you think it be breaking forum rules, if I shared Jesus with him, openly at other forums?

It really depends. If their livelihood depends on this as ministry then they are entitled to be paid. Why? Because they don't hold any other jobs.
Note down this verse, Tina. Remember it when sadtosee (Sadducees) people  try to hoodwink you with holier than God attitude.

1 Corinthians 9:14 - In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel.

As for the profit, it is needed to ensure continuity, God knows we are living in this age and time, He is not blind.
If profit is for the entire organization as a whole, I'm okay with that. A lot of people don't know that Hillsong is not just concert ministry, they have Hillsong College.

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Some hypocrites with pharisaical spirit will tell you worldliness is how things look, the loud sounds (lol, some  quoted Hillsong) or how you look, you dress, your thick makeup (lol), hair style.

That is not what the Bible says.
1 John 2: (ESV) - 15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride of life c—is not from the Father but is from the world. 17 And the world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God abides forever.

What is worldly is derived from 3 things

1. Lust of the Flesh (Acts that's displeasing to God, like Sexual lust, Rage, Jealousy, etc)
2. Lust of the Eye (to covet something to the point, you elevate it above God, KK's case for example)
3. Pride of Life (Arrogant Boasting, etc)

And do you want God's diagnosis, why people love the world? It is not what you think or what most people think it is.

Here is the answer, (ESV) translation in verse 15 have it quite accurate:

If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

It means that, the reason why they love the world is because they don't understand or have the revelation of the Father's Love in their Life. If they understand how much the Father loves them, the power of Jesus's Grace can come in to change their life.

It's not because they don't love the Father as some translation have it.

Bold part reminded me of my teenage years. 

I used to have Lust of flesh and eye too. But not anymore.

Pride of life? People tend to say that I'm a boastful person. Maybe because I'm confident.

Perhaps bcos of the way you were brought up? I was brought up that way. My family snotty and all that.

It's alright, all these will change by God's grace, meaning keep on and keeping on (bad english I know) receiving God's unmerited favour.

Why? Because it's very hard to sin against a Father who is loving and gracious.

Yes in the process....God is working in me. Amen.

I actually have myself to blame...for all the wrong decisions i made in life...but i do want to overcome self guilt....and hv asked God to cover my deficiencies. Let my weaknesses become God's strength.

Ushering...hmm...probably good idea...i want to go for the basic ministries first before i proceed to bigger things.