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tinarhian
post Mar 6 2015, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(14-9-2015 @ Mar 6 2015, 01:00 AM)
i am ALL for women who want to look good ALL the time  biggrin.gif  thumbup.gif  not a hair out of place. neatly manicured nails. smells nice. heh heh!
  14-9-2015, what is the meaning of that date :  Rosh Hashanah    or more commonly known as Feast of Trumpets.

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Yeah, I'm a perfectionist, I can't help it. Oh, Jewish festival.

QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Mar 6 2015, 01:19 AM)
LV is costly too you know Loius Vutton brand name already cost you thousand ringgit or less rclxub.gif
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Few thousands not a big deal for me.

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 6 2015, 08:12 AM)
At that point of time, Before the Cross. Jesus need to fulfill the Law, so that what was prophesied about Him being the Messiah will be fulfilled.
Because only Jesus can and qualify to fulfill the Law. That is why he said, He didn't come to abolish the Law or the Prophet and He emphasized that not one letter or stroke will disappear from the Law until it is accomplished.

Matthew 5:18 - For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
See the word there "until everything is accomplished, which He did! He accomplished the father's commision for Him to die at the cross.
What this means is that when it it is accomplished! He cried "FINISH" at the cross, that is when He made the covenant of the Law for us believers, obsolete or in other modern term nullified.

Hebrews 8:13 - By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.

NLT translate it like this:  Hebrews 8:13 (NLT) .....It is now out of date and will soon disappear.

King James emphasized it even better

King James Bible
In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

The Old Covenant is decayed and ready to vanish away.

Everything in context, dear Tina.

And this verse below solidified that we are not to look at the Law anymore

2 Corinthians 3:6
He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant--not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

the word "letter" here refers to the 10 commandments. It "Kills" when you look to it.

The Law is not for believers anymore.

It is for Unbelievers. It stands there to point them to Christ.

For us Believers, we are to look to Christ constantly and not the Law.
Does it mean that we can do as we please? I never said that.  smile.gif  (That is the problem with some people's mind)
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Ok look to Christ. Got it.

QUOTE(pehkay @ Mar 6 2015, 08:17 AM)
The short version:

The function of the law is to expose men in their sinful nature and evil deeds (Rom. 3:20b; 4:15b; 5:20b; 7:7b). In this sense, the law works as a mirror. If we do not look in a mirror, we cannot see how dirty our face is. But when we look at the mirror, the dirty condition of our face is exposed. The law works like a mirror to expose our sinful nature and evil deeds.

Why:

After the creation of man, however, something happened. Satan came in, sin followed Satan, and man became fallen. Thus, man became a fallen man constituted with sin to be a sinner. God created man in His own image and after His own likeness (Gen. 1:26) with the intention that man could take in God, live God, and express God. The main line of God's economy began with man and was on the way when something happened. A "car accident" occurred. Therefore, the law needed to come in alongside the main line of God's economy. This should help us to understand Paul's word in Romans 5:20a.

Now God had to fix the situation. Would God keep man out of His plan, forgetting about man? Of course, God would never do that because He is the Alpha and also the Omega (Rev. 22:13). He cannot start anything without completing it.

In order to continue His purpose with man after man's fall, God added something to the main line of His economy. The Chinese version of the Bible says in Romans 5:20 that the law was added. It was something in addition to grace. The law was in addition to the orthodox line of grace in God's economy.
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Well said. Focus on Christ.

QUOTE(14-9-2015 @ Mar 6 2015, 08:30 PM)
yeah, he's got a hot gf, u dun. he drives a benz & u ride a donkey. big deal!  & how long is he gonna enjoy tis?  70? 80 years?

its very dangerous whn everything is 'soon foong soon sui' for those who are lost. the devil can keep 1 blind until death comes calling.

just pray tat the scales frm his eyes wil peel off, for this rich(actually poor?) guy. have u shared ur secret weapon  notworthy.gif  wif him yet?
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Hey, donkey is a smart animal contrary to popular belief. brows.gif

kron_ka POV is short sighted. He need to focus and depend on God.
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post Mar 6 2015, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Mar 6 2015, 08:55 PM)
Yeah, I'm a perfectionist, I can't help it. Oh, Jewish festival.
Few thousands not a big deal for me.
Ok look to Christ. Got it.
Well said. Focus on Christ.
Hey, donkey is a smart animal contrary to popular belief.  brows.gif

kron_ka POV is short sighted. He need to focus and depend on God.
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it's more than tat actually smile.gif .

coupled wif d Jubilee year & lunar eclipse, its the perfect storm. u do realize we r in d middle of a blood moon tetrad, yes?

we just might hear the trumpet sound on tat day wink.gif
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post Mar 6 2015, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Mar 6 2015, 07:32 PM)
if you like gunpla, there is a local shop which can courier to you too
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Oh, I'm not a fan of gunpla. They look too fragile for me laugh.gif I'm really series specific too.
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post Mar 6 2015, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(14-9-2015 @ Mar 6 2015, 09:21 PM)
it's more than tat actually  smile.gif .

coupled wif d Jubilee year & lunar eclipse, its the perfect storm. u do realize we r in d middle of a blood moon tetrad, yes?

we just might hear the trumpet sound on tat day  wink.gif
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OIC.

Here's a detailed explanation.

http://www.jesusonmymind.com/services
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post Mar 6 2015, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Mar 6 2015, 11:35 PM)
OIC.

Here's a detailed explanation.

http://www.jesusonmymind.com/services
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huh??!! shocking.gif shocking.gif blink.gif


Fräulein tina shakehead.gif ,

on the Feast of Crumpets, all the Jews sit down & eat these for breakfast,lunch,dinner & supper :

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personally, i prefer mine with butter & honey : user posted image

but heyyy! i'm a gentile! what do i know bout eatin crumpets?

i'm sure u've eaten these b4, since u come frm Germania, nein?

more commonly known as pancakes in Europe........or Fladenbrot in England.


p.s. if u had to ride a donkey to work, wat would ur number plate be?





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post Mar 6 2015, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(14-9-2015 @ Mar 6 2015, 11:52 PM)
huh??!!  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  blink.gif

   
    Fräulein tina  shakehead.gif ,

    on the Feast of Crumpets, all the Jews sit down & eat these for breakfast,lunch,dinner & supper :

   

    personally, i prefer mine with butter & honey :  user posted image

    but heyyy!  i'm a gentile! what do i know bout eatin crumpets?

    i'm sure u've eaten these b4, since u come frm Germania, nein?

    more commonly known as pancakes in Europe........or Fladenbrot in England. 
  p.s.  if u had to ride a donkey to work, wat would ur number plate be?
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Yeah right. You're trolling aren't you?

I prefer this for breakfast.

user posted image

Yeah, I've eaten those before.

My car plate would be "Kiss my Ass."
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post Mar 7 2015, 12:07 AM

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Malaysian roti canai with teh tarik for breakfast is yummy too. drool.gif
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post Mar 7 2015, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Mar 7 2015, 12:07 AM)
Malaysian roti canai with teh tarik for breakfast is yummy too.  drool.gif
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My car plate would be :

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post Mar 7 2015, 12:14 AM

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You are mean. You're supposed to love your neighbour, even if he's an ass.

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post Mar 7 2015, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 6 2015, 01:06 PM)
It's not about knowing the texts from Genesis 1 to Revelations 22.
It's about understanding revelations of God's word, to know as much as possible, as the Spirit of God reveals and to believe it in practical life. That it will happen as God says it.

Yup, being filled with the Spirit is empowerment from the HS. Knowing the text alone does nothing but knowing the text + believing in it, does something.
Honestly I don't know all I know is, I just get this conviction that you're not ready, it's like God was preparing you in life for whatever reason, be for marriage, career.., but you're not submitting.
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So if I find certain chapters in the Bible confusing, can I skip that part?

I would just read the commentary if its too difficult to understand or read the German version. hehehe...
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post Mar 7 2015, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Mar 7 2015, 12:20 AM)
So if I find certain chapters in the Bible confusing, can I skip that part?

I would just read the commentary if its too difficult to understand or read the German version. hehehe...
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Just read it. It is like food. You don't have to understand it. You just eat it and enjoy it. wink.gif

Eat His Word. Reading the word is like a spiritual washing. You feel refreshed and watered.
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post Mar 7 2015, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Mar 6 2015, 04:44 PM)
Would you just shut up and not to flame the issue further please?
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post Mar 7 2015, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Mar 6 2015, 08:55 PM)

Ok look to Christ. Got it.

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Yes it has everything to do with Grace and Law.

Even the word Fallen from Grace (Galatians 5:4) means Grace is the Higher position. "Falling from"?

The Law of the 10 commandments cannot make you Holy nor Righteous. It was never designed for that.
Why do you need to look to the Law to make you righteous when you ALREADY ARE Righteous in Christ?
When you are righteous by Faith, It is Literal Righteousness not Seeming or pretending to be.
Think about it. Those from Old School theology, many do not understand this.

The Law was designed to bring out Sin in you. That's why the more you try to keep it's moral law, you more you end up breaking it!
There are many Christians who don't understand this. They'll say oh only the ceremonial law is done away but you still need to uphold it's moral application.

Whenever scripture refers the Law, it always refer to it's entire composite, there's no separation of ceremonial law and the 10 commandments or the levitical laws. It's ALL IN.

The Bible calls its a Ministry of DEATH.

2 Corinthians 3:7 - Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory, transitory though it was,


The 10 commandment was engraved in letters on stone, not the ceremonial laws.

God calls the 10 commandments, a ministry of death. I can tell you, this is hardly preached in Christian community because they are afraid if people know they are Righteous by Faith instead of the Law, it will give them license to sin like no tomorrow. But you know what? That is Man's thinking. God's way is always peculiar from Man's POV. They don't understand,

ONLY GRACE can bring them moral Excellency not the law.

I will share this in my next devotion. No Stopping by the Grace of God.


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post Mar 7 2015, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Mar 7 2015, 12:20 AM)
So if I find certain chapters in the Bible confusing, can I skip that part?

I would just read the commentary if its too difficult to understand or read the German version. hehehe...
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That's why we have this thread.
Ask away whatever you don't understand.

but yeah you can skip, don't force knocking your head on the wall.


One thing though, the Holy Spirit will always honor your prayer if you pray asking for understanding and correct interpretation of scripture.
Because, after all, He is the Author of the Bible, Who else better to give you the explanation? It's like this, sometimes words spoken from your bro n sis in Christ, the Spirit in you will confirm it and you'll go "OH Yeah, that's right", confirming the word or understanding.



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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Mar 7 2015, 09:43 AM)
Yeah, I been struggling to read and use the memory verses to cast out negative thinking and as protection to my heart.

I wonder what constitute submission? Is it trusting God? Yeah trust takes time to build. Its something that is genuine in the heart. Unfortunately, I cannot just simply say I trust God while my heart is moving the other direction. I believe its a process.

Just like UW...if anyone whom you want to be close in life, the trust and submission has to build over time, its not an overnight process, am I right to say? If it takes time and effort build, only then it is genuine.
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God's word is not like how a wizard cast a counter spell to cancel the enemies attack by incantation.
You can train a parrot to say God's word and nothing happens.

It works from within when you believe and when you understand.
Understanding is important because it gives you assurance how God works for you and not against you.

What is important is the element of believe and to get into the position of peace.
What would constitutes submission IMO is to be at peace with God in whatever situation you're in right now.
That is very important for without, you'll always be an easy target for the devil.

Trusting God?
Not really from my experience, with the Lord, all it take is simple Faith and the stubbornness to stick with it.
God is always Faithful, we are the one with the wavering Faith.

Yes it takes time to know God but it doesn't take formulas or methodology to move God so that you can trust Him.
Not even obedience as some Church teach. Yes that will be involved but it's not the main element.

It's just takes Faith. No works. No Human Effort, No obeying God's Law whatever. Just Faith. It MUST start from there.
The obedience will come in later naturally. But that is beside the point.

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Mar 7 2015, 10:18 AM)
I understand the verse, yet I have difficulty trusting God over the verse. The element of believe, has to be produced over time. I suppose faith is believing it would happen, keep on praying, keep on praising, keep on asking, keep on reading his word, keep on waiting for Him, keep on building.....even when there seems to be no way and no results. Just as Abraham has done that for 80 years....with no promise land in side, with no son in hand.

Yeah stubborn faith, thats what it is. Stubborn faith = Submission = giving your all to God = put your whole yoke to his yoke for it is light and easy.

Well, we can know God in surface by reading his scripture, attend Sunday service. But knowing God by practice is the usually putting your faith through fire, refine it as pure as gold. Usually trial and tribulations are the time we know and understand God best. To be honest, I truly do not like to go through trial and tribulation, for some my problem may be menial...but for me the issue holds very dear to my heart.

No works in faith? hmm i not sure if i can agree. But when you go through trials...isn't that putting your faith into works? Just faith alone...is like saying i believe in Jesus....but don't practice the life of a christian.
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You're not going to take that step to working it if you don't believe in the first place. Am I right?
So the element of believe (Faith) has to come in first. The rest will follow. (works)

Everything is interrelated.

How do you get Faith?

1. It comes from hearing the word of God
2. It's a gift.

1. Hearing the word of God alone without understanding the meaning, will it produce Faith? My Answer is No. That is why you must Ask the HS for revelation.
2. Yes it's a Gift according to the HS, so Ask and Pray then take that first step to believe.

*2. Do you know according to Jewish commentaries, Nashon, the captain of the Israelites, he initiated by walking in head-deep then red sea parted. That takes Faith. We start by Faith, God moves.


Edit: My point in all this is, don't try to run (Faith + works) before learning to walk (Faith).

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Mar 7 2015, 10:45 AM)
Yes you are right. Just that believing takes time to develop. I think it takes meditation on his word, persistent prayer and quiet time to build up believe. I think believe is a form of exercise, am i right to say?

Believe + hearing = faith.

I mean its like this, we can't call ourselves a sportsman unless we exercise and practice before a big match. We eat proteins, bulk up, go for training sessions with coaches to prepare us for the game. Then at the game is where our faith goes into action. Before the game, is where we exercise our faith.

So without the constant process of those spiritual disciplines of meditation,prayer and quiet time...I don't think believe can be build up, overnight. Its like getting an unfit fat guy into a 90 minute football match, he is bound to collapse halfway.

1. Ask HS for revelation? You mean? Asking Him for the truth to be revealed?

2. I think building faith will take some time for me. Its a process of healing and waiting upon Him. I admit I don't like to be in this position, I know I must because I want to have faith in Him. Only He can set me free and live a fruitful life.
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Really depends on you Bro.
You can take your time for this to happen or you can get take the first step like Captain Nashon.

The Israel wandered in the wilderness for 40 year when it could have been only weeks if only they simply believed.

Believe, hearing and understanding the word God = Faith will come.

I believe that exercise comes in after you take the first step of Faith. The more you exercise , is like honing your Faith to greater level. (As explained in the book of James)

But still, that first Step have to come in, Faith.

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1. Yes Ask the HS for that.
2. Up to you lah Bro. If Me I don't want to wait another year,2,3 or 5 years. I'll get desperate on my knees, knowing how times are changing and the enemies being aggressive.

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ok the price list are out here but still there is no link or further info on this yet..............it's just too expensive shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Mar 6 2015, 05:46 PM)
Tak suka lego.

Things like the replicas, or themed cooking utensils, or plush toys, or whatnot.

Most cannot buy due to shipping problem so I just air liur from a distance laugh.gif
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Ah, I see.. I thought Lego for a sec there, another fan. sad.gif

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ok the price list are out here but still there is no link or further info on this yet..............it's just too expensive shakehead.gif
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It's really expensive, I hope it's not the final price.

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