<yawning> Flying to Shanghai later.

Agree…see post #2206.
But the question remains unsolved;
Is being foolish/delusion/ignorant a crime that deserved such degree of damnation? Especially when the judge himself has the upper hand to alter the outcome…

The problem here is you guys don’t bother to see the whole picture but rather employing shallow judgment.

No doubt Satan is the mischief maker but the ill intention is born out of ignorance. He is deluded to think of himself too high or even higher than God…leading to excessive pride followed by outburst of aversive behavior when things don’t come his way. Not that i can read his mind but these are universal truth that everyone has/can experience.

This basic psychological phenomenon tells us freewill is indeed an illusion. Keep in mind we are living in a world of cause and effect. With such-such degree of perception/clarity, such-such state of mind manifest leading to such-such behavior.

Doubt is caused by lack of insight, nothing do with temptation. So it is either one be honest with oneself about what one knows and knows not or brainwashed oneself to believe in something one knows nothing about.

If you read 1 Corinthians 13, faith/hope is more of a stepping stone. The pivot of the teaching is the culmination of love/kindness born out of insight. But of course one may find other verses that suggest otherwise since religious scriptures are expected to be contradictory…

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why don't you read back Book of Genesis up to the creation of human, and read up how does the bible described how human was until they first sinned

so carefree, please buy me some snack back from shanghai.........just kidding

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Very hard to quote using iPad.

The problem with you is you do not believe in God. Furthermore you are not a Christian, aren't you?

Do you expect God to appear in front of you? Then only you believe there's a God?

In the beginning, when God created Adam and Eve, they had free will. It was when Satan tempt them, that they lost their free will when they ate the forbidden fruit.

Yes, now there's no more free will among humans, due to the consequences of those events. But angels and demons have freewill.

At the end of time, believers of Christ shall have free will again but only to worship God.

Yes, one should always strive to gain more deeper understanding of the Bible. I myself still learning and reading about it.

Do not have a warped view of the Bible when one is not even sure what the Bible is all about.

And I'm going off to sleep now and do not wish to debate during my holidays.

can pray for me? i heart break =( my friend duwan me....but another friend wants me.

No problem bro... wait one day you are ready i come and question until you enlightened.

Actually Satan is a serpent or an angel?

http://bible.us/rev12.7-9.kjv And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

hi , i m just break off..
6 years relationship, it break my heart... helplessly.
I am a christian dont have much friend , in due to my job
could use some help from you all -- need to change a new enviroment...

any one can recommand a church ( english ) with younger sprite, to help me swing off ... and i can look forward positively.

thank you.

hello hyan, welcome to Lowyat.net Christian fellowship page stay on with us and chat with us often any question do ask us will try to answer you honestly

are you ok with pentecostal church? that mostly where the younger generations are belong nowadays also depend on your location.
do let us know your location and what kind of church environment you are seeking, we should be able to guide you to the right church

The gospel does not focus so much on the Angels compared to Man. Because Angels do not get married and have children.

Proverbs as above has to do with wisdom
Philippians above has to do with the wisdom of walking in Love.

Sin like I said is a state of being. It's not what you do with your hands, mouth or leg. Man is already corrupted with Sin passed on from Adam. It's like a disease.

I once said this and EVEN many Christians were confused and argued with me.


We are sinners because of Adam's Sin. We sin because we are sinner. Though it may sound the same but in that statement there is a difference.


The woman in the Bible like Martha and Mary, God praised Mary for just sitting down and receiving because she made Jesus look like God more than Martha.
Think about it. There's no legalism in there.

You need to understand the verse above is after the fall of Man.

What Romans 7 as above mean is that our Fallen State, the Sin nature (the Flesh) causes us to be Anti God or Hostile to God. In that corrupt state, we cannot submit to God.
With the inherited sin nature as a state of being, it has nothing to do with being mindful as what Buddhist are taught because they differ in the origin of the Universe and how things work.

but the way I see it, the Bible is more in line and proven over time with regards to what is happening in this world. Even when people who are mindful and knows what is right or wrong, they have no power to obey God measured against his Ten Commandments. Even if you remove God out of the equation, they cannot do it. Maybe for awhile but after sometime, it's back to square one.

I'm quite familiar with the Buddhist precept, no amount of meditation, or will power can help you not to lie, cheat, lust, masterbate, watch pornography or even abstain from sex with your GF, Bad thoughts about others, malicious intent, bad mouthing, back stabbing, self righteousness, etc.


This is something you'll find hard to prove me wrong.

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Weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning. [Psalms 30:5]






My advise (don't think youngster will listen anyway)

is not to look for GF but to live each day, doing what needs to be done, to be in the will of God, the GF will just come naturally. Why? Because I presumed you would have already prayed about it.

Then God is working behind the scene to make it happen.

Remember Jesus said Do not worry about tomorrow? GF matter is included.............All these will be added unto you.

Worrying will hinder God's working to bring that Right GF into your life.

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Fallen Angel who has the power to manifest his form as a serpent.

That is why when people make fun about talking snake does not fit into science and all that, they think they score a valid point, without understanding that Satan is a supernatural being.
Even God is a supernatural being and they want to force fit God into limitation or logic.

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You can join the youth group in any of the following.

DUMC, Calvary, Glads Tiding, City Harvest, SIB, Metro Tabernacle.

Bible Devotion with UW

Why you should be at rest and not worry about your Christian life II






We're continuing the series of resting in God.
Psalms 23 is a very well known Bible verse that every Christians should know by heart.

It exposes the Heart of Father God, what he wants for us, his very divine will, if you prefer the word Commandment,

which is R E S T.

It is a promise one, which you can claim as a child because it is yours. Again I want to emphasize, resting is not laziness or procrastination. Then what it is UW?
It is that serene & calm PEACE that you have with God. The STRONG Trust that causes you to relax and be at peace in your life despite of challenging & painful circumstances.

And God gave us the picture of lying down in green pasture beside still waters (psalms 23:2). Emphasize is on GOD being the one who makes us lie down. Will you allow Him to do so?
Lying down here signify a restful position. Green pastures here signify providence (food for the sheep). God is so good that he not only want us to lie down restful but also being fed (satisfy & full). God provided pasture is always green. You won't find rotten grasses in God's pasture. That is why I say when God prosper you it is holistic in nature, one that is blessed and without trouble.

Man when he provide prosperity for himself, is never secure and always open to trouble like jealousy, backstabbing, full of strife, full cares and worry.

The next verse in the same breath, God wants to lead us beside still or quiet waters. Still water or Quiet water here in the Hebrew (menuchah) means Rest. The thing about God is that The Holy Spirit ALWAYS operate on the wavelength of peace. So should our Christian Life. I say again, so should our Christian Life. We should allow this synchronization to take place, our spirit and God's spirit in tune with peace.

What Am I trying to say here? If you notice verse 2 is sandwiched between verse 1 & 3. What is the Revelation here?

For God to provide you so that you'll lack nothing in life (Psalm 23:1), and before you get directions in life (Psalm 23:3), you need to allow God to make you lie down to the place of REST.

Man's way is different, that we need to strife, we need to labour, to build up career and rake in money, need to worry about this and that, need to be make sure we go for constant medical check to be in health before we start to rest.

God's way is different. We rest first then all these things we need in life will come in, brought in by God himself.

Hallelujah. God is super good! You know, it saddens my heart that some people just cannot believe that God is this good and thus turn away from believing this, try to self rationalize psalms 23 is not talking about all this and resort to trusting in their own effort (Law mentality) because it's easier to believe in that rather than believe that God will bring all these as promised.

Dear Friends. The Bible which is the infallible word of God, does not lie. Jesus says according to your faith be it unto you and this applies very much true in your life.

You can either submit to God in Faith and see all these wonderful promise come to pass or you can continue striving making money and lose your years and health and end up using the money that you've slogged over the years trying to gain back your health through expensive hospitalization. The choice is yours.

The Lord Bless your mind and heart. Shalom.

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