hmmm....

i think the reason why you are tempted in sony is because 'it's a sony'. *sings to the tune*

honestly, for RM 3300 for the sony alpha plus kit lens, why not the canon 400d? true, sony produce the CCDs for nikon and sony is a huge market and they are using the minolta's technology and they have carl zeiss' lenses and stuff but who cares?

1. their high ISO noise level is a joke. i think the obsolete D100 is better than this camera.

2. nothing againts minolta. they produced brilliant lenses but if would to compare to today's technology, it's slow in term of focusing. you can argue the fact that you don't need fast autofocus but still... once you have tried the USM and AF-S (ferrari), you wouldn't want to drive a kancil no more.

3. carl zeiss' lenses. they are one of the best in the world. but the thing is, can you afford it?

canon's 400D's noise level at higher ISO is good. heck, all canon's are good in my opinion and my favourite is actually the 5D. you should look at the noise level of this camera when it's set to 3200ISO.

this baby accepts all EF and EF-S lenses and there are loads of people trying to sell off their older lenses... i constantly seeing a good 17-40 F4L lens for sale... so there you go... a brilliant lens up for grab. (if you can't even afford this lens second hand, forget about purchasing the carl zeiss lenses for your sony's)

totally agreee... i think ur tempted by sony bcos of their many many many many advertisments and gigantic billboards ( like in mid valley there).

Sony uses their money to promote their products , and i see that they nearly succeeded in influencing mine when i thought of getting the sony. But after comparing D80 and Sony . Heck , the waiting counts ! Bought D80 straight.

it's RM 3050 actually for Kit 18-70mm.RM3799 for 2 lens (18-7mm & 70-200mm) hehe...maybe u are right sifus..

buying a dslr is not an easy task. every brand has its strengths.i suggest u do a little research on the next. think about what type of system u want to invest in and most importantly, what type of photography.

i'm just getting into this hobby tht's all.Some nice potraits & landscapes...

i can attest to the fact that the noise/grain level of the 350d is very low, making it possible to use high iso and still get presentable photos. The lantern photos I took with ISO800/ISO1600. The photos that i took on my daughter's full moon gathering, conducted outdoors was also taken with iso1600 and the photos turned out just nice. I was able to freeze the movements to capture the moments. I don't usually take a lot of low light photos but to be able to do once in a while is still pretty nice. Also, all the photos were taken with the kit lens.

This post has been edited by gold3knight: Oct 3 2006, 09:55 PM

Pics? Where?

Alpha's kit lens produce quite high Chromatic Aberrations when I observe some of the sample picture.

buy a Canon 350D
there's practically no bad DSLR liau these days
it all depends on your upgradibility on lenses aka wallet
and of course, experience n skills

so y not get a 350D and buy urself some good lenses?

it's true also...
get a 350D new set... and the extra RM 1000 you can either get another lens or belanja all of us tai thong restaurant.

if serious about photography, the lens count... i saw a dude today on monorail using nikon D200 with vertical grip and SB800 flash... all high end stuffs there but using only 18-70 lens.

i would rather have the D70s and get myself a 17-55 f2.8 lens instead.

just visit my photo stories thread. Link at my sig.

Well....budget below 4K.Any suggestions?

i heard that the metering is not good on the alpha. how true is that?

canon's 350d(old model),400d(new model)
pentax k100d(new model)
sony alpha 100(new model)
nikon's d50(beginner) and d70s(slightly more advanced) but both are old models.
olympus E-500?(old model too)

as u see, choice is abundant.

dun influence TS la
should support he get alpha ma

allow me to list the mp

Canon 350D 8mp
Canon 400D 10mp
Pentax K100D 6mp
Sony Alpha-100 10mp
Nikon D50, D70s both 6mp but price different almost 800 to 1k
Olympus E-500 8mp

not to miss out
Nikon D80 10mp (Though not within budget)

I'm just curious. Sony Alpha isn't that bad, right? Why a lot of ppl dislike it?
Sony Alpha is actually a good system if you are a fan of KM. It can't be compare to 400D as 400D already past a few generation of evolution. The system obviously would be more mature compare to Sony Alpha. Just give Sony Alpha a break as it is still new in the market (Sony's 1st DSLR). I'm certainly would like to see the 2nd generation of Sony Alpha would be. It has a lot of potential...

To thread starter, I would say, choose Sony Alpha. By the time, the 2nd or 3rd generation comes out, you are ready to upgrade the body with a decent collection of lenses that ready to make you fly. What would you say?

since alpha SSS is built in the body and its already a 10mp

;p all lens are decent

still need further upgrade on body?

;p spend la on the carl zeis lens

The current problem that Sony Alpha facing is the noise management. Ofcoz the future generation with nicer noise management would be tempting to upgrade.

Sony has quite nice CMOS technology too. I wonder Sony would integrate it to the next Alpha. If that happens, it would be a nice competition show to see.

Their own CMOS sensor would be their 1st and last bullet against their ONLY CMOS competitor ... Canon. Should Sony loose out by integrating a CMOS sensor into the Alpha, Sony might bolt out of competition during its first stage of 'making' their 1st SLR, loosing all potential customers.

Keep in mind that the Alpha is Sony's FIRST SLR but Canon already made almost a dozen EOSs for themself. Experience, technology and R&D of SLR ... Canon is light years ahead of Sony!