ermm... i am a nikon user from the moment i started learning photography professionally.

i am not bias in any brands. i am just saying that sony's DSLR seems to be too noob for the time being. and if one would to get the sony DSLR, wait for their next camera...

things i would like to see...

1. noise reduction in higher ISO (piority)
2. more higher quality lenses (F2.8 lenses) (but not the carl zeiss range)
3. and faster focusing lenses
4. i am not sure about the layout of the buttons and functions of this alpha camera. true, it's basically whether one is use to it or not. i tried using my friend's canon 1d mkII and i was cursing like siao when i was using the camera. so can't comment.

well, if one like this camera for no obvious reason besides it's a sony (sings to the tune again) then by all means get it. if not, my advice, go for the canon 400d. nikon? abit expensive... unless you wanna wait for the rumoured D60 (christmas)

nothing is wrong with the alpha camera, i am sure about it. my only problem with this camera is the high noise... besides that, i am sure it's a good camera...

1. Lots of ppl complaining that 400D lack of spot metering. I wonder why Canon remove it as 30D has it. *scratch head* It won't affect much without a spot metering though.

2. If you got poison from L lens, I would say, it won't be cheap. The sharpness of the picture from L lens can really poison. *beware*

spot metering is nice to have, and i've used it once in a while. however, i dont actually tihnk i would really miss it.

Besides noise,

Sony Alpha has quite a number of good features.
- In-hardware Dynamic Range Optimization
- Eye Start AF
- 2 dial buttons which allow easy access to the menu (ofcoz compare to 400D only)
- Better grip (ofcoz compare to 400D only)
- Good battery life (again, ofcoz compare to 400D only)
- Cheaper (price) anti-camera shake implementation (*sigh*, compare to 400D only)

As for Ergonomic design, I can't totally agree with ac98 because 400D is equally suck. This is more depend on personal preference as both models have it mono-status-LCD removed.

Which one to choose? Depends on the buyer choice

haha i think more than enough adv.

what so good about the in hardware DRO? reviews of it havent been impressed, and have mostly concluded that its simply better to do it in pp. we also have no idea of Sony's future plans, and whether they will offer a good upgrade path or just keep releasing budget model after budget model. then of course, there is the issue with lens prices which wipe out any cost advantage of the body if u wish to get more glass anyway. have u seen the price of the 70-200 2.8 SSM? its about USD 2.4k! The Nikon equivalent, is around USD 1.8k WITH VR at that. i'm not dissing Sony, and they may well get their act together in the future but I wouldnt want to investing in their system at the moment, unless i have cash to spare.

This post has been edited by BurgaFlippinMan: Oct 4 2006, 02:23 PM

Good thing you said 'equally' suck and not 'worst than' the Alpha
Yes, to those Mat Sallehs and those well-built palms, the EOSs have been small ever since 350D

If I have spare cash, to assist my Canon system, I would get a Nikon D200!

huh?
why lar?
chi sin... ahahaa!
to assist your canon... the 5D is the camera to purchase.

Arguably, the lens price is headache. Blame it on Sony marketing.

As for in-hardware DRO, I would say depends on personal preference. I tested the effect after PP, I prefer the in-hardware DRO as fast, and neat without PP. Though lots of ppl say it looks unnatural. But I still like the feels of the picture. I can't find the link to the thai's forum. The forumers are doing very precise testing on the DRO, I would say the result is really superb unlike those review in dpreview. They're actually placing a side by side comparison of the picture. The lighting looks very natural, unlike the picture that I have for PP.

Though I said "equally" but Sony Alpha still has advantage over 400D with better grip and easy menu access through the 2 dial buttons.

okok...gonna go try both this weekend

the canon 400d loose out in battery power

D80 : EN-EL3e (7.4 V, 1500 mAh) Canon : NB-2LH (7.4 V, 720 mAh) A100 : NP-FM55H (7.2 V, 1600 mAh)

with the larger lcd and self cleaning and stuff, going to eat up more energy. just recently the shop assistant where i went to look at the cameras, and where i bought my filters told me the 350d was a good choice. 400d will consume up energy fast, and will therefore generate more third party battery sales for him.

Although this topic had stopped post for couple of months with some war and gun powder smell.... luckily..it ends up quite ok...since ppl learn to know what is so call limit....

The thought of which is better or sucks more than the others really doesn't matter..ask oneself, izzit going to work for you or not....By simply flaming here and there....poisoning here and there...influence the noobs is no good....advices are welcome...stepping down on others is no good as well....

I strongly believe that each has its own good and benefits and it all depends which works for you the most....cons of each one should be tolerated by the user and find a better way of solution to overcome it instead of keep on moaning.....

There's no perfert nor foolish....don't simply comment others must be "joking" no manners at all....respect others

r u a alpha user?

why would you want to know....??? luckily good man learns good thing(sharing)... actually nope....but saja only...cannot tahan this type of environment...keep on saying this no good, that no good...although i know it's their personal opinion, but at a point it should stop lor...respect ma...

I'm planning to get myself a brand new dSLR...Nikon? Canon? or Sony? hahaha...anyway, there's a reason behind every purchase...

why not purchase the 3 main brands then if u got alot of money.. cn enjoy each of their advantages.. haha

hahaha....
honestly, there is pros and cons... jus see which one you will be able to tolerate the cons n enjoy the pros....
this is jus a knowledgable discussion n not flamin la....

yaya discuss and sharing only, no flamin... could be my misunderstanding somehow....

Then you try first lor...