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 SETIA ECOHILL 2, Starter landed link house below 500k

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post Aug 8 2016, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 8 2016, 04:54 PM)
haha bro... what semenyih had done to u... especially SEH 1...? other than distance? price very expensive? house very small? too much investors buying? I am quite curious... lolz...
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they say before this i no money to buy SEH wor.. that y bad mouth...

then say I miss d chance so bad mouth wor...

now different position di...

many of my friends stuck there... not 1 -2 units a group... should have view properly
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post Aug 8 2016, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Aug 8 2016, 06:29 PM)
Ah bear, for a new township, can pls share what would you expect in terms of occupancy in year 1, year 2, year 3 and year 4 onwards from the point of VP?
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occupancy merely with depressing rentals as low as 800 to 900... these group of tenants do not have spending powers to generate or support the surrounding shops which range millions causing operating cost to be 5 digits above...

to be precise, the group of investors are also depressingly low in holding powers rental rates of 800 also rent

the occupancy would be mere gimmick later on.. like fulfilling requirement.. the price would be flat... resulting credit lock for most investors

and samkps was caught lying... seh was vp oct 2015... he lied as usual

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QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 8 2016, 06:24 PM)
Bear, what you expect in property investment now...

X+ 250k upon VP ar?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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that was the setia alam u group were propounding right? the TKJ... what... penyelam lim..
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post Aug 8 2016, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 8 2016, 04:54 PM)
haha bro... what semenyih had done to u... especially SEH 1...? other than distance? price very expensive? house very small? too much investors buying? I am quite curious... lolz...
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these few are the core quality of a proeprty ...

they have t pay more tolls too..

and d pillars looks funny too.. looks nice from outside.. inside gg... pillars are unevenly designed... better sacrifice the upper living room for space for rooms..

another row even more funny.. car park so huge .. rumours can park in 6 cars... the built up size so small... can see d kitchen immediately
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post Aug 8 2016, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Aug 8 2016, 06:36 PM)
Ah bear, pls answer the question straight to the point.
For a new township, can pls share what would you expect in terms of occupancy in year 1, year 2, year 3 and year 4 onwards from the point of VP?
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hmm ok just mere prediction:

new and over priced project and far


1-2 years= ard 20% ( 10% homewoners + 10% tenants)
3 year = ard 30%
4-5 years = not achieving 50% (with 50% homeowners and 50% renting)

even then no spending powers for sure... from these tenants/owners...

you are strong investors... but due to multiple units... u became weak also... u are highly potential to resort to low rentals.. samkps holds 3 units.. more gg... TKJ hold majestic... sumore... cannot retire early liao... need to service loan due to vacant and cant sell
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Aug 8 2016, 06:46 PM)
TQ Ah Bear. Mind to share GVH occupancy now?
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QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 8 2016, 06:47 PM)
Bear, have you visited the show houses before?  brows.gif
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GVH occupancy schedule could have been just around or could be worse than SEH... but since the entry price are higher.... and built and sell type.. with developers selling merely 10k more for later phases... and more discounts for later buyers compared to previous...

even the ocupancy strikes lower... this is purely for ownstay... logically... service loans few months later for built and sell, bought for flip.. good luck...

my opinion is that more for own stay rather than investment... easily more than 80%... even u say they are investors, these are the really strong investors... i can say.. with so high a risk and probability of holding

that is d motto of develoeprs kot... unlike SEH... depan cakap lain.. belakang bikin lain...like u all lor.. mention ownstay.... berlumba-lumba nak mengaku tinggal sana.. apdahal 3 biji...

tinggal sana lar tu..
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QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 8 2016, 06:47 PM)
Bear, have you visited the show houses before?  brows.gif
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d show house only show the nice type... the onces with 6 parkings and small built up and bad pillars gg.com

oways they use corner unit
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post Aug 8 2016, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 8 2016, 06:57 PM)
Tell me which unit can park 6 cars? SemiD cluster in Precint 3?
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3 or 4th row of seh... the gates are like wood colour type... very near to the park on seh 1... dun jia jia... i went b4 di

DSL only... on the left wing after guard house... 20 x65 type... other side is 20 x70 above type .. the vp ones got ppl renting /stay

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post Aug 8 2016, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Aug 8 2016, 07:03 PM)
GVH occupancy is even lower.  But didn't you claim GVH buyers bought it for ownstay?  If for own stay why the occupancy is even lower?
I don't see the logic - pls enlighten.
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these ppl maybe do not have enough cash to move in? reno? maybe the access haven't open? amenities havent in yet.. and etc..

another point supporting this is the units advertise for sell in GVH are basically very minimal..

even u spot those advertise for sell compared to SEH... those are sub con units... which the entitle to enjoy freebies..

which is more probably and logical>? THOSE VACANT UNITS IN gvh are waiting for flip? subsales?

compare to SEH which is obviously with banners...

pick a guess..
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post Aug 8 2016, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 8 2016, 07:04 PM)
Bear, if buy for ownstay, why still not move in after 1.5 years VP?

Strong investor? Now GVH stuck in very bad condition, entry price 700k, if want to rent, can rent at RM 900 ah? Even want to rent at RM 900, also not many interested.  brows.gif  brows.gif
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so your conclusion is?

GVH vacant units are for FLIP?

please remind yourself who you are..
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post Aug 8 2016, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 8 2016, 07:10 PM)
Wah...  Bear, then how you know vacant unit in SEH not because do not have enough cash to move in? reno? amenities havent in yet.. and etc.. ??   You really panai make cerita..

Already told you before, dun compare the banner. SEH along Ecohill link, high visibility. GVH isoldated in a rock mountain, nobody is going there to look at the banner. Put banner in GVH for ghost to see meh?
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QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 8 2016, 07:12 PM)
Yes, GVH vacant unit is for investment, but now stuck in big problem :

1.) Cannot sell - because developer selling unit with lower price (first phase buyer never expect this happens).

2.) Cannot rent - because isolated in rock mountain, no one will go this place, far away from amenities and most important no access road. Agent don't want to go and waste money advertise.
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GVH vacant units are for investment wor... u think this answer fits ur position that you are working?

do you need to tarnish ur academic qualification just to secure the winning in LYN?

if yes.. then you say GVH for investment ... mai investment

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Aug 8 2016, 07:15 PM)
Not have enough cash because property already overpriced so no more money to move in and reno? Or no money because spending power too low and cannot even support the shops?  Access road not open and amenities haven't in yet means the place doesn't even have the basic stuff for people to live in? 
I'm wondering hmm.gif
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to have believe buyers who bought GVH

a)an overpriced proeperty
b) located ard rock areas
c) no amenities
d) immediate service of loans
e) bad access
f) etc

those so called/labelled investors you meant in GVH are of that of a blatant blindness to have bought the said project after all that defects/disadvantages were visible ? and a built and sell type of project?

and with ample time to consider buying as there were no buying spree like lining up a day before with tents and 40k for a unit? compare to SEH?

those so called invested in GVH miss all these points and bought GVH instead when SEH where ppl are lining up > Majestic pp are lining up> and it is 7xx k... leh

I dont know what what works you are working... but I would wish u can summon TKJ to have an independent assessment and vre-evaluate your valuation on the said property...

by agreeing that GVH is for investment despite all the flaws vs SEH... dont you think SEH investors are much more smarter than GVH ones?

or lets be simple... you being an investors, will you opt for GVH or SEH as an investment point?

OBVIOUS ANSWER isnt?

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Aug 8 2016, 07:30 PM)
People bought SEH / EM could be because
a) not overly priced
b) there are amenities
c) strong holding power to service loan
d) good access
e) etc

do you need to tarnish ur legal profession just to secure the winning in LYN?
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I do not need to tarnish the legal profession to take this answer... it is pretty obvious both SEH & EM were bought for what purpose?

please do refer to the edited version of my last reply..

you as an investors... would you buy GVH with so many flaws at 740k vs SEH with all the amenities (you self mentioned) with 400k/450k?

ASNWER? GVH OR SEH? captain obvious
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Aug 8 2016, 07:56 PM)
Aduh, nak verbal war lagi ke?

I didn't know where GVH is until recently. Just a question, if they wanna go south towards Semenyih town how ah? I see from google maps currently only got one access which is from SILK?
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that is right.. SILK and cheras kajang highway lor
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Aug 8 2016, 07:35 PM)
I as investor I invest in commercial in this SEH/EM area but not GVH. Crystal clear? So how?
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ceh.. commercial lots in SEH/EM no ppl line up...

u need the SEH/EM occupants to support ur commi... well commi all die till 7788.. all near highway also gg... TTDI kajang is the best example...

higher risk taker.. bigger investors...
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Aug 8 2016, 08:06 PM)
Got access to cheras-kajang highway ready already?
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back via silk also...

the jelok impian access haven't open yet.. road already finish constructions
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 9 2016, 09:32 AM)
for investors... for a township like this.... holding power is the key point isnt it? thats why the investors go in for lower price point units so they can hold for longer term... imagine buy 1 at semenyih for 400k, buy one at kajang for 700k... the 300k difference enough for me to hold for more than 5 years after VP also... and if your friend reli stuck there geh wa... means they intended to flip after VP? haha...

for own stayers... down to preferences and budget of course... own stayer nothing much to argue... u suka u buy it... haha....
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wrong aaron.. for township like this and the lining up... completely different preception...

if investors know they need to hold and have holding powert as much as 5 years and above... WHO WANNA LINE UP AND BUY A UNIT TO GET STUCK FOR NEXT 5 YEARS POST VP?

lol.. these kind of township... mirrors SETIA ALAM... in which double in appreciation as expected... by vp time they would have sold at 750k

aaron I aint picking fight or what... but u sit down and analyse.... will ppl line up just to get to hold the property for the next 5 years or sth?

it is illogical...

own stay buyers genuinely will have a very good look a few turns on the said property... not like making a fast decision line up a day before to stay there.. to begin with there is nth in SEH when it was launched... what makes a genuine own stay majority prefer SEH at the brink of launch?

save for some small numbers who know the area or the current resident in semenyih ...

it is so obvious it was for investment/ quick buck kind of tings... coupled with statements from owners my friends who admitted and holding a joint double digit number of units admitted they made a unwarranted choice to buy and line up for the sole purpose to FLIP... and you think the rest of active dudes here are ownstay? each fella holding 3 to 4 units...

well, there is no wrong in flipping... risk is assumed... but not those young herd buyers... now sumore want youngster who conveniently missed the 1st paunch to buy at premium price... really not fair... so far di.. the price would have been ok had not these ppl flip..

again.. now I di bought .. should be clear of excuses like
a) miss d boat
b) bad mouth
c) also wanna flip

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 9 2016, 09:36 AM)
haha... for own stayers... if i went in at 200-300k cheaper geh wa... the toll fees and the petrol consumed for that cheaper price... can tahan very long wor... this is my feel la... when i was thinking to buy a unit at 700k nearby bukit jelutong or buying a 500k property just 10 mins further in... in term of cash flow... the 200k i save... enuf for me to pay toll and the extra petrol consumption for many years liao haha... this is my view only la of course...  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

wa... can park 6 cars? who spread such rumours one? hahaha... i rmb i visited SEH 1 showroom when they first launched... i din feel it can park 6 cars... if is SA spread the rumours.. they deserve to be punish... lol... bruce.gif  bruce.gif  bruce.gif
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u buy SEH first and stay in to proof ur claims... or seh 2 (Near TO CITY MAA) 15 MINUTES AWAY
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Aug 9 2016, 09:24 AM)
hopefully 10 years later can become a millionaire and a successful entrepreneur

still waiting the right timing and opportunity

let us strive together  flex.gif
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proeprty is a gooding tools of investment... but have been abused by prop agents... developers.. flippers and bankers for a short term 5-6 years appreciation till it constrict like now...

uneven growth..

in d past i have heard.. some of the most silliest statements around.. ".. I dont understand u.. it is just basic supply and demand rule.." feel life was wasted by those dudes... like penyelam lim.. few fellas...

please be reminded... 3 years before (shy 3 months) from launching of SEH di say gg.com.. if not also hold... last time ... different tone of talking...like MR RIGHT...

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