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 SETIA ECOHILL 2, Starter landed link house below 500k

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post Aug 9 2016, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(klangvalleyrookie @ Aug 9 2016, 10:32 AM)
Latest SEH transaction by brickz. http://www.brickz.my/transactions/resident...ecohill/landed/

Jln ecohill 1/3B is dsl 20x65 Pallida
Jln ecohill 1/3K is dsl 20x70 Angusta
Jln ecohill 1/3L is dsl 20x70 Argentea
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nah this is a fair proof... price appreciated.... post vp 1 years ard 100k?

but why may 2015 till march 2016? VP di meh may 2015?

unsold developers units? or agents holding and resell back/open back to market?

2016 Jan transaction ard 50k extra assuming bought at 450k... ( the range of buying are 400k to 450k) I know there are initial buyers bought at 3xxk

the 50k up and throw only show few thing...
a) want money dont want property
b) high risk
c) very marginal profit

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post Aug 9 2016, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(Rabel @ Aug 9 2016, 10:44 AM)
Bbw is the best 😂😂
U proof ur SPA only ur name ..pls
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looks like you are confused with the proving factor... u allege , u proof? u allege I proof? still got justice?

you are the one hurled statements unwarranted and untrue.. I need to proof ur statement... later u say i a shemale.. i need strip to prove? hello
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 9 2016, 10:44 AM)
haha... so the main point u are unhappy they make SEH seems like a very flippable location for short term? when even your fren also go in and join the herd of thinking to make profit from flipping after VP? I am just trying to catch the point here and there... Im sorry if i offended you... lol...

just from investor point of view... the first phase buyer or even second phase buyer.. if buy to hold for 5 years or more after VP... it doesnt seems wrong to me... rental yield for landed is always very low... so to buy for rental income is not achievable... and if someone... reli if there is someone intended to buy for flip after VP and hope to gain big fat profit... that also seems quite naive to me...  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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if this is the fact they WONT LINE UP to buy in DEC 2013

they already cause the market price so unbalance.... now still want to cause more harm
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QUOTE(justmemc @ Aug 9 2016, 10:44 AM)
For the smallest unit, also can sell up to 510k? rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  How much is the initial price?
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with the absence of SPA.. i suspect is a investment group holding multiple units and sell out at 510k... (perceived to be cheap)
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post Aug 9 2016, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(Rabel @ Aug 9 2016, 10:52 AM)
U proof lar since u r geng, talk so geng.
Really bo get money from mum to pay down payment ??
Really no loan rejected, no choice add more name in SPA
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talk nia.. who also know... I reassert again all rumors are untrue...
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post Aug 9 2016, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(justmemc @ Aug 9 2016, 10:52 AM)
But my friend is the actual buyer for SEH 1, she told me on that day she reached around 9am. No more units already and she is in waiting list for more than half year to secure a unit.

Haha, so now SEH 2 really a good chance to buy for those who missed the earlier boat.  rclxms.gif
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ur friend could be the ones transacted at 510k above... bought a little bit more expensive.. brickz kena abuse di
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post Aug 9 2016, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(klangvalleyrookie @ Aug 9 2016, 10:58 AM)
Erm.... the page shows data from Dec 2015 to Mar 2016. Don't know where u see data from May 2015. confused.gif

SEH cheapest launch was 20x65 dsl Pallida, started from 408k with DIBS. It is possible that staff & associates could be getting extra discount which the public did not.
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see the transaction date lar...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 9 2016, 11:00 AM)
haha... so your concern is when semenyih have nothing... why ppl will line up to buy their projects during that time... only flipper who spoil the market will do so? maybe because of their success story in setia alam... somehow... it affect the mindset of buyers to follow SPS to semenyih also... the 2013 semenyih is just like setia alam as at 2005 or 2006 lidat... now my fren unit at SPS suddenly grow double when he put his trust in setia alam during those years...
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that y... setia alam and its rotten story... hello they start at 200k... seh 1 400k.. Majestic 500k .. where u wanna flip?

so funny u know... launching time all rushing to buy.. vp time all rushing to sell.. but no one buy.. u tell me for ownstay.... I may have stomach ache laughing

I would not get jelly over it... even it doubles in paper.. very limited buyers will pump 700k to 800k to there with those size... you want to buy or not 800k? simple maa..

u ask them buy their 1st phase at 800k.. they also will say u are joker

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post Aug 9 2016, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(justmemc @ Aug 9 2016, 11:06 AM)
Well in fact, that's true that property now are harder to flip as the initial price is already high.

But after few years, once everything stabilize, i think price will goes up again.
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u need to pay installments for this.... calculate and see... how much dump di...

and by more years to come... competation will be high.. units grow old... SEH1 and it s fame subsides like any other tamans...

800k? u ingat PJ ke?
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 9 2016, 11:07 AM)
haha... then you forgotten the time value money concept... the 200k as at 2006 for setia alam... maybe equivalent to 400k for semenyih as at 2013... so if they intend to flip... they might actually flipping at the same rate as setia alam when they succeeded... but that just my humble opinion on value only...

for all the new township... not only semenyih... even kajang... rawang... kota kemuning or alam impian... there are also investors who buy for flipping... because this is how ppl increase their net worth previously by investing in puchong, ampang, subang etc... hahah...
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so.. have you bought a 400k unit in SEH inview of the "money concept"?

this only true if the potential buyers can support the market... if not need PRIMA house? need BRIM?

difference is here many flipping till extend of lining up with tents...

u think GVH many ppl flip or not?
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QUOTE(Rabel @ Aug 9 2016, 11:18 AM)
U dun buy now
Later lagi unable to buy
U ingat all ppl like u got mother fund??
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later cannot drop? now i buy thre also drop 40k.. adn going 100k soon per unit..

only increase.. u wnat see SPA or not?
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QUOTE(Rabel @ Aug 9 2016, 11:21 AM)
U talk cock for so many yrs
Got drop ??
At the end, become more jialat.
In front of ppl keep talking
Behind ppl... Mum help me...
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drop di.. purchase made... where got only talk cock?

now SEH memang tought selling.. seh2 selling 533k leh.. mana a da room to flip?
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post Aug 9 2016, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(klangvalleyrookie @ Aug 9 2016, 11:23 AM)
Setia alam phase 1 cheapest 18x65 dsl was circa 170k, now transacted circa 500k above.
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agree.. that is doable and acceptable 500k .. seh here starts 400k.. seh 2 533k..
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Aug 9 2016, 11:25 AM)
no la... i bought a 500k unit in puncak alam in view of the time value of money concept... haha... i do agree demand is always there... but they can't afford it... but the real world is such a cruel world... u just have to make do with what u have... flippers forever will exist... and we can just try to grow our own value... haha...
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this game requires the investors to pay installment game... 5 years u want them to gg?

seh basic units 4xxk

simple maths will land u at

2200 per month, if include maintenance maybe 150

that is 2350 x 12 = 28.2k

28.2 k x 5 years = 141k, belum include lain lain give and take 160k (fire insurance, interest fluctuate and etc)

that means 141k + 408k = 549k... they need to sell ard 600k to have minimal profit (if any)

that is for 1 units... samkps 3 units.. all are 500k range above.. that is why... how can 533k in SEH 2 work 5 years later... price can fetch also.. who buying? rich buy investment... hoping the poor? the middle class flips..
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QUOTE(Rabel @ Aug 9 2016, 11:26 AM)
I think u got a lot of flipper friends
That y u only know many flippers
U hv no friends r real investors
So, u dun know got ppl buy property not for flipping
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u open house in SEH 1 for me to believe biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 9 2016, 11:37 AM)
Bear, one question only... 

If people know SHL throwing price for the same unit in GVH for the phase 2, will there anyone going to buy phase 1 or not?

If phase 1 not sold off, then got phase 2 or not?  sweat.gif
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depends ppl buy for won stay or flipping lor.. flipping one sure curse developers... own stay leh feel pain lor seeing ppl buy cheaper
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QUOTE(hiddenmcky @ Aug 9 2016, 11:37 AM)
Perhaps you have personally went thru some bad experience with flippers and collectively blame them all... and for some reason, you think you are doing property buyers a favour by giving unsolicited advice. But in all honesty your comments are hurtful to us who are residing here or thinking of residing here in the near future.

We are all adults, can always debate but please back up your arguments with actual FACTS and FIGURES from NAPIC (National Property Information Centre), Brickz and respectable publications. And as always, there is always pros and cons to every development, please present a fair argument.

Besides, whats there to gain from badmouthing a township which is not even in direct vicinity with your own?  hmm.gif
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ownstay ppl sorry lor... but dont you remember when you bought the units and have a warm conversation with those claiming to staying there...?

now it turns out to be a lie... what figures shown and etc.. dont matter if you are staying... only investors will care much... you should hate them more... if i am there... sure laugh me till yellow face...

all those figures and charts will break the silent night in SEH? dont even have enough residents to start the guard services.. that i went also guard using cones and stickers recognition.. SEH leh... most owners there are cina.. and cina flips... and occupants are renting mostly... saw a few with red cloth on front door..

anyway ownstay.. no worry... just wait another 5 years then ok di.. more things tocome
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QUOTE(d0j0b @ Aug 9 2016, 11:56 AM)
One of my neighbour in Sg Long bought a unit at GVH and the family doesnt not dare to move in to the new area because not many residents there. In addition there are not many amenities and a bit secluded according to them.  ohmy.gif
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nah samkps.. ownstay on hold to move in not flip...

i agree it is secluded... fast fast open the bypass lar... everyday tolls
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QUOTE(hiddenmcky @ Aug 9 2016, 12:00 PM)
A sorry would suffice. The rest sounded like a personal attack, unwarranty and petty. Had I struck a nerve?

Your fixation towards this taman is unhealthy, although I must commend you on your vivid imagination, I hope one day you find happiness in other aspects of your life.
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another round of apology.. I have summarily categories all those against here as a unit of investors...

so there were you... no personal attacks was meant just a mere more vibrant form of discussion.. the usual forums will understand the language.. they meant no harm... just for assurance

I have many friends whom are infact there investing...
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QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 9 2016, 12:02 PM)
Not dare to move there lah... If someone offer him good price, you see he wants to dispose mou.
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