Rafale proposal 'effectively dead' as Dassault bid not cheapest

Even as three Rafale fighters line up in Bengaluru for eye-popping aerobatics displays at the Aero India 2015 exhibition this week, senior ministry of defence (MoD) sources say the proposal to buy the French fighter is "effectively dead".

The reason: During three years of negotiations between Dassault and MoD officials in the so-called "contract negotiation committee" (CNC), it has emerged that Dassault's bid was actually higher than that of the Eurofighter Typhoon, not lower as the MoD had announced on January 31, 2012.

Dassault had submitted a sketchy commercial bid, and when the CNC obtained details from the French company to arrive at the actual cost of the Rafale, the figures added up to significantly more than had originally been estimated.

The confusion is due partly to MoD inexperience with "life cycle costing" (LCC). The global tender for 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) was the first time the MoD was awarding a contract based on LCC. This meant the winner would not be the fighter with the cheapest purchase price; instead the chosen fighter would be the one that was cheaper to buy, fly, maintain and overhaul over its 30-40 year service life.

[Business-Standard]

I think you got it backward.

Dont think so. The last i check f22 can only do up and down

Su 30 can both up n down and a liitke side

there are plan for 2nd batch,
but only when there is better radar will be available to us
but right now we are more focus on MIG replacement

hybrid

So I just got news that Dassault just give a counter offer to RMAF

now wait Sukoi and Saab offer too.... 

the picture from KLS is from AF PR jadi..
no komen

Asean main fighter jet



Credited to Sandy Rud

International Monitoring Team inspecting the weapons returned by MILF at Camp Siongco, the headquarters of 6th Division in Datu Odin Sinsuat town in Maguindanao

Fark!!!!!!! US wanna export its freedom here and SG will be it's doormat:

http://www2.bangkokpost.com/news/asia/4784...by-2018-us-navy

can but 100% under state Sultan control, if under state government mati la. hari2 civil war if state gov and fed gov gaduh.

Ya something like that to have check and balance. I think Johor has but not to the scale of National Guard.

Dont give sultan too much power
Maybe one or two thousand troops enough

The meteor has further range than the rafale's radar maximum tracking range. Meaning that Rafale could only fully utilise the meteor with help from AWACS or GCI radar.

Americans had most experience in war knowing much how missile guidance works better. Russians got their experience by gathering feedback and report from allies syria, libya, iraq, serbia and also from 3rd party insurgents/militants. With help of russian researchers, the serbians managed to track and shoot down stealth F-117. French weapons have some success as proven in several wars.

The bosnian war displayed best result of french vs russian weapons before america intervened in later 1994. Result is french weapons not too advanced than russian weapons where french forces suffered high losses and failed to defeat serbian forces.

Mig-35 vs rafale, which do you prefer?

can get help from india on that.. their new upgrade plan will feature air-conditioning system on their t-90s produced domestically
btw PT-91M have aircon  meh ? I thought also dont have

Russia tank factory Uralvagonzavod

new tank design look into APS

This T90 has separate crew compartment and ammo storage like western tanks? If not, this upgraded T90 is not a good tank. T90 is just remake t72b with cramped interior and deadly autoloader known of ripping off tank crew's hand. No thanks.

Russia should come up with new mbt. T90 is no match against insurgents rpg29 and IED. M1a2sep, challenger2, leopard 2a6, leclerc would destroy t90 easily.

What do they use to keep cool in summer then?

Autoloader is good if there's isolation from crew like in leclerc & merkava, tank crew don't get to touch nor see the autoloader. Russia got into serious financial crisis that they cancelled the t95 project with proper autoloader separated from crew compartment and separate ammo storage.

T72/80/90 are nothing more than 70's era tech doctrine. The design fails big time under present day. Since t95 was scrapped and russians lost the t80 factory to ukraine after soviet union dissolved, they have only t72 left and give it modificaton then renamed it t90.

The Bradley's are slower than abrams that they were trailing behing while abrams spearhead enemy defenses. At least abram could destroy t72. At the other hand, t72's 125mm failed to punch through abram's armour, only capable of damaging tracks, turrets and engines at most.