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davlee
post Aug 4 2016, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(fookie @ Aug 4 2016, 02:14 PM)
What is the most effective way to kill off BBA? It has infected some of my hairgrasses. sad.gif

Planning to get some amano shrimps this weekend to see if it works.
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I am facing this issue also and reading from internet really makes you headache... If it's on your hairgrass, yes, you can just trim the top part. Mine is stucked on my driftwood and moss... Some ppl suggested higher CO2, some suggested using seachem phosguard, some said h2o2.. rclxub.gif
davlee
post Aug 4 2016, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(kimimaro_kun @ Aug 4 2016, 05:56 PM)
just use cotton bud, dip in excel and wipe it at bba.
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Do I need to drain the water before wiping it or can wipe it underwater?
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post Aug 5 2016, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(usmanjailani @ Aug 5 2016, 09:27 AM)
h2o2 works for me..spot treatment using syringe..carefully read instruction on the net and description on your bottle..there's 1 time i thought 3% & 6% concentrated is not much different..the net using 3% type, mine is 6%, and i use same dose just like on the net..and boommm..more than half of my fish population (neon+cherry barb) died.. T_T

3 days blackout also works..if it doesn't, try doing 3days blackout - 3days light and follow by another 3days blackout..

did try zero algae..this one is super strong liaoo..half of recommended dosing is quite enough..or maybe 60% from recommended dosing..dont try doing full dosing..

never try excel..
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Oh.. zero algae works for your BBA? Maybe I'm gonna try that as I have some other types of algae too...
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post Aug 5 2016, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(davido @ Aug 5 2016, 10:43 AM)
Please let us know how it goes. Because last time I used algaecide, my shrimps died. Never tried it again. But I'm curious about other's experience. You might have a different experience.
Btw, if you want, I still have OF Zero Algae in my cabinet - it was used only once. Anyone wants it (with compliments), please PM. I don't ever anticipate using this, so no problem for others to have it.
It depends, bro. On your tank's bio load. For shrimp only tanks or nano tank with fishes, I think ok. For 2 footer planted tank with fishes, then no.
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post Aug 5 2016, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(kimimaro_kun @ Aug 5 2016, 11:19 AM)
i've done both, also no prob. but need to off ur filter about 15min. else no point on doing spot treatment
OF zero algae a big no-no to me. not only algae, my tank also became zero  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Guess I have the liberty to play with the zero algae as my tank is without any fauna right now.
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post Aug 5 2016, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(kimimaro_kun @ Aug 5 2016, 04:44 PM)
not only fauna. even flora also effected.
my s.repens growth was stunned, moss and fissiden wipe out
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Then I really need to dilute it and not applying full dose..
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post Aug 16 2016, 06:30 PM

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I have set up a new tank. Initially when I planted my mc, everything was OK but not growing fast. I did not put any feet or co2 at that time. 2 weeks ago, I started to put micro and macro alternately everyday and Co2 and the plants kinda turned brown and melted. Is this normal due to plant acclimatising to new parameters? Or should I stop fert and dose only weekly?

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post Aug 16 2016, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(artsyfarty @ Aug 16 2016, 06:40 PM)
You should have given them heavy dose of co2 to help the plant acclimatise to the new environment quicker when starting the new tank. Fert can be skipped for the first week and gradually increase the dosage after second week.

I'd say do daily cleanup of diatom and dead leaves and WC as frequent as possible (2 days once). Do you have live stocks in it?
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Any advice on how to clean the diatom? They are like coated everywhere, even on the soil. Haha... No live stock at the moment. I think I will stop fert for now and only dose once or twice a week.. see how it goes.
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post Aug 18 2016, 01:43 AM

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Thanks for the advices. Will do more frequent water change and maybe get a nerite snail.
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post Aug 18 2016, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(davido @ Aug 18 2016, 09:49 AM)
Hi Dave,
Many advice on the net - very confusing. Which to follow? Haha, I went through the same snag when I setup my 2 footer. One year later, I setup my 3 footer, and this time took advice from the pros only (ADA) and did it in the way that ADA would when they setup a new tank. The result was no unmanageable algae issues during setup. And thereafter, algae was always manageable. There are small episodes of BBA and green water (having that now), but its manageable. Every tank will have algae - even ADA showroom tanks, and Takeshi Amano's, but its managed by maintenance.

I'm not promoting ADA - you can use alternatives, but your equipment has to be on par. Filtration, bio media, lights, temperature. If these are not adequate, you will struggle with algae every now and then in the later stages.

During the setup phase, plants must be dense. How dense, I need to give you a booklet that shows the density - but the gap is like 2-3 cm for the carpet. Once flooded, ferts start from setup day. Potassium ferts only for first week (meaning, no trace ferts). And Green Bacter and Phyton Git from day one. Daily dosed. The latter are very important, especially Phyton Git because that impedes algae. WC is twice a week, for the first 2 weeks. Thereafter is weekly.

Trace ferts starts on week 2 (day 7 onwards). Diatoms will appear around 1-2 weeks. To control this, add 3-5 Ottos, and 1-3 SAE (for 2 footers). Many will question this, because the tank is not fully cycled. Even I questioned this, but I swallowed the bitter pill and just taroh them in. And it worked. My diatoms were under control - and no fish died. The diatoms were not even visible after that. Past 14 days, add in between 10-20 Yamatos (for 2 footer). And with weekly maintenance, and good equipment, and good ferts - no visible algae during setup phase.

Disclaimer is this was my experience. I'm sure there are many other ways to do it, and many people have had good success with other methods.

After the tank have stabilized, you can remove the cleaning crew and just keep the bare minimum.
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Hi bro... thanks for the lengthy reply. Wow, didnt know the ADA way of setting up a tank. It has just been experimental for me and did not really have a schedule to follow.

Maybe it's time for me to find the cleaning crew. Somehow, the diatom has been affecting all my plants terribly, making the whole tank looked brownish and the plants that were coated with diatom were dying or the leaves were melting. sigh...

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post Sep 1 2016, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(Maxram @ Aug 30 2016, 09:00 AM)
I plan to reuse my tank, filter, light etc. Planning a tank with low tech / without CO2. Plant will go for Pelia(as tree) and monte carlo(as carpet in foreground). Is that possible? Also looking for suitable long looking grass (straw like), any suggestion

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Strongly suggest that you go for MC

QUOTE(davido @ Aug 31 2016, 05:12 PM)
Actually I have no experience in low tech, so maybe those who have done low tech can better answer your question. I don't know if MC can grow without CO2 - can someone share their experience with MC?

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Yes, MC do grow in low tech setup. Have one low tech setup and no issue for MC to grow, just slower that with co2.

QUOTE(usmanjailani @ Sep 1 2016, 09:20 AM)
not sure if japanese hairgrass would survive no co2 condition..maybe worth looking for..
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I have trouble getting the mini hairgrass to carpet. MC is easier...
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post Sep 1 2016, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(usmanjailani @ Sep 1 2016, 10:36 AM)
wow..nice..
in that low tech setup..u use liquid carbon or not?.
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Nope, no liquid carbon. But I do dose macros and micros
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post Sep 15 2016, 12:13 PM

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Reporting after using '0' Algae from OF... (courtesy of bro davido)

All the green hair algae is gone and BBS also died, leaving behind all the brown coloured bbs as in picture below. Did a complete 10 days course using the recommended volume.

For the bbs left behind, should I cut them off or they will drop itself later?


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post Sep 15 2016, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(Vio @ Sep 15 2016, 12:25 PM)
Are they shrimp safe?
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Not too sure about it as i dont have any fauna when treating. But i strongly believe it is not. When pouring the treatment, can actually smell the stronf chemical. My nerite died and CAE missing, which i believed already died... Haha
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post Sep 22 2016, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(fookie @ Sep 22 2016, 12:15 PM)
I'm trying black-out method for my tank. My hairgrass and flame moss is plagued with BBA.

Yesterday night was day 3, i opened up and shone some light into the tank and it seems like the BBA is still there, no color change on the BBA and the BBAs doesn't seem weakened.

I'm trying for a few more days. Ideas or tips anyone?
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Tried that, not effective for me too. Only thing that works for me is zero algae
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post Mar 13 2019, 10:53 PM

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I have java moss to swap with slow growing plants.. anyone keen?

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