keep it simple.. we not Semiconductor Engineer.. GTX 970 if you game on 1080p or 1440p on High@ Ultra "BE NO PROBLEM" is just Suffer on 3840x2160 Resolution on any increase setting but the performance hit not that much different... under 10Fps against R9 290X that.. minimal.. for the price End user pay GPU .

From AMD Graphic FAN point of view/opinion (what this guy says.. )

i got myself a voodoo2 just for nfs se damn those were the days i enjoyed many games on that 3d only card, remember u gotta have a 2d card to pair with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MghYhf-GhU

Lots of insight into the rise of 3dfx from the 4 founders, where/what they're doing now (1 is in Nvidia), the fall of 3dfx and what they did wrong that led to it, the purchase by Nvidia, etc. Interestingly Malaysia is singled out/mentioned at 2:23:00 when asked what was the most surprising thing these founders learned during their time at 3dfx

This post has been edited by raydenex: Feb 1 2015, 07:14 PM

3Ddfx Voodoo 3 2000 PCI 16mb SDRAM is my First Graphic cards... 1999/2000

This post has been edited by Unseen83: Feb 1 2015, 07:52 PM

During 98/99 when I was hunting for my 3dfx Banshee 16mb PCI, was already so hard to locate one as most of the stock was the AGP ver. Finally got 1 unit from a shop inside Imbi Plaza 2nd floor, can't remember the name. How was your experience?

Still fondly remember that Creative Labs Banshee.. came bundled with the game Incoming. Good times.

My first GPU is S3 Savage 4 8MB + Pentium 3 533Mhz. Then I upgraded it to Geforce 2 MX 400. That Geforce 2 MX 400 was my last Nvidia card. Every card after that is Radeon simply because of price/performance ratio after that, not brand agnostic

After I got myself ATI 9800 Pro, the 6600GT came out, I'm so jealous of 6600GT that time

This post has been edited by terradrive: Feb 1 2015, 08:08 PM

aiyo don't marah la.. we same kampung one rite? i really anti AMD no offense.

same here lol my first graphic card was the s3 graphic card + pentium 1 133mhz

at the time i was living in KK Sabah, hm to be frank.. i did not enjoy so much after buy,using Glide API was good experience tho.. few month later i go on internet 3dfx go bye bye after buying boards maker in new mexico or something, than Nvidia buy 3dfx... eh feel bad year for me lolx.. do not know gonna happen to driver support and at the time that gpu very Expensive FOR me.. (student) Banshee.. come out before voodoo 3 2000/3000/4000 right ? like in late year 2000 3dfx bringing out Crazy Gpu.. first Dual GPU Voodoo4/5 4500/5500 .

AGP Accelerated Graphic port.. i thought it was the future GPU.. i go on safe up my money to built new Rig late 2001 manage to get Pentium 4 1.6Ghz with Cheap ECS Mobo... with AGP ! this was important for me...

Add on: geforce 2 MX is Nvidia first GIMP GPU.. haha i experience missing Texture.. missing head in GAME MAFIA haaha

your anti AMD !

This post has been edited by Unseen83: Feb 1 2015, 09:30 PM

Guys, Im currently owning 680, just wonder is there any big difference/upgrade to 970? Wish to play max setting @ 1080p for GTA V.

How about wait until GTAV comes out first? No one knows how GTAV will perform on PC, even if Rockstar is promising that it will run fine. But what happened with GTA4 on PC was a big slap to those who bought it.

U re reminding me back to the era when Creative Labs (CL) are selling graphic cards beside their sound cards.
My 1st CL card - Graphic Blaster Extreme 4Mb (Permedia 2)
Then CL Graphic Blaster Riva TNT 16 Mb (yeah......the bundled Incoming game....fond memories of that)

Not big jump, if you have 680 must at least aim for 980. That'll be 2 steps performance upgrade.

If what is said be unseen83 is true, more than 3840x2160 will be severely affected by the memory bug then I will be royally pissed with the 2 x GTX 970 I got.
Im using a 4320x2560 resolution monitor to play games and the reason I got 2 of the 970 is so it can have enough processing power to run, but it will now be severely handicapped because of very slow memory access. And you know when you play games at >4K Resolution, high speed memory is very important. Nvidia should refund all of us for misleading info. The issue wont be so bad if the memory architecture remained the same as the GTX980 And only cut 3 out of 16SP.

Then you should lower the texture settings in the game to make sure you never use more than 3.5GB VRAM. Also don't use MSAA because it eats up VRAM as well. As long as it is under 3.5GB VRAM usage it is fine.

I think joellim bought an 4GB card. Oh wai...

I think it was called 3D Blaster bro
Yup, they used to sell CD writer too, my 4x cdrw drive was a Creative.

Yes, you should be royally pissed... But not much you can do bout it too. You right now, have some choices tho. 1, As what AMD fans been preaching the whole while, jump to 290X now and get the 8GB version as well, and gain a few fps in the process. 2, upgrade to 980 and enjoy the extra fps and true 4GB albeit the extra cost along the way. 3, wait for the upcoming AMD cards.
And to those that can't offer solutions, but can only b**** about the same shit countless times, please, spare some of my internet data and not be an idiot of a fanboy.
I hope you fanboys do understand, many that bought the 970 simply do not have choices then. Had AMD been doing their shit right and better priced their cards instead of cheap shooting Nvidia ONLY after this fiasco, AMD should have had a lot more users.

Hold on, SLI GTX970 has never had enough power to run 4k/60p on the most recent games from the last 3 months in the first place anyways. 4320x2560? There's no way you're gonna run games at max settings with a SLI 970 as you already know. In which case by then, you'll have to lower settings until you can play them.

Also, Nvidia needs to fix frametimes with SLI 970s.

Hello guys

i'm thinking to buy MSI GTX 970 4GD5T OC but got few questions

is it good compared to other brand eg asus, msi, zotac etc?

what the diff with MSI GTX 970 Gaming version other than cooler?

did i entitle nvidia free game offer if i buy from shop?

Need some help here. TQ