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post Jan 21 2015, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 21 2015, 09:05 AM)
If you have lower VRAM size then just set your settings for lower sized texture in the game settings, that's all...

But we are in 2015 already. AMD or Nvidia should push 8GB VRAM for their top of the line cards now, since VRAM isn't that expensive anymore.

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GTX 960 is a dud by Nvidia, it's 2015 yet the performance is like a GTX 760...

Performance increase from OC is not much though compared to GTX 780 or GTX 970. And interesting to see the lousy overclocker R9 290 (as everybody been saying) had performance increase as good as 780/970.

Mid range gamers are still screwed for years with lousy performance lol. Most berbaloi GPU still over RM1k  laugh.gif
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I agree GTX960 is a dud. Let's send a clear message to nVidia by boycotting GTX960.
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post Jan 26 2015, 06:41 AM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jan 26 2015, 02:08 AM)
i still have a feeling they accidentally cut off too much when they were cutting down on the GM204 chip laugh.gif
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Isn't everyone shouting 970 the best price over performance? Never before happened?

Well now we know why it is cheap.
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post Jan 26 2015, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(antaras @ Jan 26 2015, 10:46 AM)
Yeah... true... more like false advertising or just plain CON job. Then again, I'm not complaining at the moment.
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Don't worry. nVidia will flash your GTX970 bios to enable all SMM. Your GTX970 will become GTX980. rclxm9.gif

Pay for GTX970. Get GTX980. rclxms.gif

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post Jan 26 2015, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(antaras @ Jan 26 2015, 01:37 PM)
Well, bloody hell... if that's true... then thanks in advance. heh~
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I think it will. You know many US people wanna sue nVidia. nVidia will crap out and send out a new firmware to enable all GTX980 feature in GTX970. rclxms.gif




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post Jan 26 2015, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jan 26 2015, 07:53 PM)
sweat.gif  If they do this, then GTX980 owners gonna sue them.....
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NVidia can release a firmware to flash gtx 980 to 970... ohwai....
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post Jan 26 2015, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jan 26 2015, 10:02 PM)
Ai yo yo, you two ar......  doh.gif  Trolling mode ar....

Don't forgot SMM unit connection may be disabled by laser cut.
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Impossible. You can't cut a feature using laser. That is so ridiculous.
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post Jan 27 2015, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 27 2015, 10:44 AM)
Damage control - Blame the marketing team.
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Unless Marketing Team wrote the BIOS to display to CPU Z brows.gif

Or nVidia can blame Asus/MSI/etc for writing wrong spec inside BIOS. laugh.gif
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post Jan 27 2015, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jan 27 2015, 03:31 PM)
Well,due to the vRAM issue of GTX970,are we gonna still recommend it,though? hmm.gif
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depends if you're a fanboi or not. If you're fanboi, just recommend it.

Else, just recommend 290x 8GB so that everyone can play console port game safely.
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post Jan 27 2015, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Jan 27 2015, 04:15 PM)
r u sure really 8GB vram on 290x? hmm.gif
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post Jan 27 2015, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(raydenex @ Jan 27 2015, 06:20 PM)
Kitguru;
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-...wing-a-scandal/

"According to a report by PCPerspective, which cites Jonah Alben, senior vice president of GPU engineering at Nvidia, the GeForce GTX 970 features 56 raster operating pipelines (ROPs) and 1792KB L2 cache, not 64 ROPs and 2MB of cache, as previously reported. In a GeForce GTX 980, each block of L2/ROPs directly communicate through a 32-bit portion of the GM204 memory interface and then to a 512MB section of on-board memory. Since the model GTX 970 lacks part of L2 and ROPs, it cannot effectively use 512MB of 4096MB of onboard GDDR5 memory."

lol I believe even in GPU-Z your GTX970's show 64 ROPs yes? Nvidia did some big con job this time.
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This con job have covered over the fact that GTX970 has the worst coil whine in the history of graphic card. sweat.gif
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post Jan 27 2015, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(antaras @ Jan 27 2015, 06:31 PM)
Like seriously?
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well, isn't that everyone talking about since GTX970 appear in the market? Eventhough it might not be full truth, but the whiners about coil whine make it like the worst thing ever happened to a graphic card..... sweat.gif

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post Jan 28 2015, 11:56 AM

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Statement from nVidia employee-cum-mod:-

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post Jan 28 2015, 12:08 PM

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You guys in luck. nVidia will personally contact your seller and make sure you guys get a refund:-

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I guess that depends on who's card it is. I think that EVGA for example offers a trade-in program, others might offer credit, etc. It's largely up to them. All I'm offering is to help you out, even it means me contacting them on your behalf.


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post Jan 28 2015, 03:22 PM

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Wow, nVidia started to send Cybertrooper to every forum:-

Here is the Anandtech one:-

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Hey. Sup. How are we holding up?

So some of the modders might know me from ocn, twitter, reddit or even in person but besides being a lurker on the forums, I'm actually the NVIDIA GeForce social media guy. I work for NVIDIA out here in Santa Clara, CA.

I know there's a lot of back and forth talking about is or isn't the 970 a problem, what's the impact, what's next? Let me jump in here and give my 2 cents. While the 970 is just as amazing today as it was a month ago our communication as a company has clearly been problematic.

I get it. I understand why GTX 970 owners are upset.

We posted stats. We didn't properly explain the memory architecture. We never intended to deceive anyone but despite our best intentions many of you got information that you thought you could trust and made decisions based on it.

We let you down.

We screwed up.

So here's where it gets dicey for me: I really think the 970 is an awesome card. I STILL think it's an awesome card and as a gamer and as an NVIDIA employee I can't help but think it wouldn't get the praise it has if it weren't every bit as incredible as I like to think it is.

But, with that said, others might feel different. They might feel deceived and maybe you even feel like you don't have any options. You do.

So, if any of you don't want the card now, knowing what you know, you should send it back. Get a refund or an exchange. Do what will give you the best gaming experience possible and if you need help to get that done let me know.

I can help.


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post Jan 28 2015, 03:24 PM

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When nVidia gonna send someone to Lowyat forum?
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post Jan 28 2015, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jan 28 2015, 03:27 PM)
Looks like they're desperate for people like not to sue them or anything,i guess.. sweat.gif
When we're noticed by them. tongue.gif
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Yeah, class action lawsuit is very real. Furthermore they admit it. LOL.

So by giving buyer a refund, they might avoid the lawsuit. sweat.gif
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post Jan 28 2015, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(Gamer @ Oct 29 2014, 09:26 PM)

I bought the Gigabyte GTX970 G1 Gaming last 2 weeks from hikari85, run silent and cool.
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How much you bought it bro?
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post Jan 28 2015, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jan 28 2015, 07:26 PM)
Well, nVidia confirms there will be an update to alleviate this issue...

http://www.techpowerup.com/209369/nvidia-t...ver-update.html

I know the 970 is a powerful card, but why would they have a huge miscommunication between the engineering and the PR team is extremely confusing. 

Don't you think something is fishy behind it?  hmm.gif  If there is a mistake in the specifications, nVidia could have issued a statement telling that the specifications are incorrect as soon as possible.  hmm.gif
...and the petition has reached more than 2500 signatures in just a few days... sweat.gif

https://www.change.org/p/nvidia-refund-for-gtx-970
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Definitely weird.

And the update will just alleviate the issue. Does not fix the fact that this is 3.5GB card.
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post Jan 29 2015, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(yaphong @ Jan 28 2015, 11:59 PM)
I thought we already established long ago that having more GPU RAM does not really improve performance when the GPU itself isn't fast enough. I would agree if everyone is double or triple SLI their GTX 970 to run 4K (because the RAM is still limited to single card RAM) then it is an issue. I guess people just take opportunity (like every fanboys) just to jump the gun and take the shoot for trolololol.

I still remember I first got conned by a salesman in Low Yat saying that my ATI X300 with 256MB HyperMemory is a powerful card. Only later I learned that X300 is entry card (not even mid range)... all the additional RAM went unused.  doh.gif
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In the case of gtx970, it is fast enough to fill up 4gb. But due to 0.5gb slow ram, your card tanked. So it's like having 3.5gb card.
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post Jan 29 2015, 06:02 AM

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I wonder if GTX970 will fully support Direct12 eventhough the spec said it does.

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